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Skipping cutscenes?
Took me 6.5 hours to get to chapter 5, and I explored every bit of the corridors. Never skipped cutscenes, either.SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
I'm kind of sad that I've had the game for three days and I've only been able to play this much on it. Screw life.
Zzoram said:
Just press right when you highlight Abilities and you'll get the Repeat option.
whatdidyousay said:
I walked between the two save points before Odin to grind CP. I focused on getting HP nodes, and the second accessory slot. I used a lightning ring + some HP ring. Kept Hope on MED most of the time.
After saving, you can pause and hit select to go to the main menu. Then load your save and the enemies are back. It only takes PS3 about 20 seconds to do this. I'm betting a save to HDD 360 is just as quick.
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is it normal that im about 1hr and a half in and I have NO fucking idea what is going on, or who anyone is or what they are doing? The dialogue and pacing are so...wierd and just "off". And gameplay wise all i've done is run through corridors and killed bad guys by seemingly just mashing the buttons. I know its super early but damn. It just feels like im not really doing anything.
Ninja Scooter said:
Yeah, the dialog at the beginning was a bit Engrish. "A mom's tough" doesn't sound English.
Read the back cover summary on the case. Maybe I missed it when I started, but I didn't understand what Cocoon and Pulse were, and that summary makes it pretty clear.
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teh_pwn said:
i rented it didn't even get the cover or the manuel. Oh well im sure i'll figure it out, it was just a very strange way to start out a game. Constantly switching characters, not really explaining shit, really boring battle segments (which reminds me, minor quirk, but why does it force me to keep using my abilities, like Break or Grenade on certain enemies. like if I use Break on a guy, then go back to a regular attack it'll still use Break on him? Is that right?)
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this game keeps getting better.
chapter 7 has been awesome. long, but awesome.
the slow build up with the combat system has, arguably, paid off for me.
what a bizarre, interesting game.
chapter 7 has been awesome. long, but awesome.
the slow build up with the combat system has, arguably, paid off for me.
what a bizarre, interesting game.
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that's called a rolling start, and its to keep things interesting right from square one.Cloudy said:
you get heaps of info and backstory intelligently paced throughout the game.
structurally, it actually seems like a bit of a risk by Square standards, and I'm glad they did it. I don't need heaps of exposition, let me learn it slowly, else leave it ambiguous or to extended fiction.
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Cloudy said:
Cant you just auto them?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think Square doing "in media res" game openings is absolutely a step in the right direction. I fell in love with Square from games where you start out assaulting a town with Magitek armor, or begin during a terrorist bombing of a power plant... In recent years it seems like they went away from that, and now games start in the home town, they basically pile on tutorials, and the story starts off slow and it takes 3-5 hours to get to the first major conflict... No, what FFXIII has done is much preferred IMO.Cloudy said:
Look, it's good to have the datalog in the game (another way this game reminds me of Xenosaga) but it shouldn't be REQUIRED reading in a story-based game. I've changed my mind and I now agree with Shouta on this critique...
Especially when you're throwing around similar sounding terms like l'cie and fal'cie all game. I wasn't completely clear about all that stuff till like chapter 4/5. That's retarded...
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Cloudy said:
SE Japanese website for FFXIII. I don't think there have been any official English translations but if you Google you'll find some fan ones.
Jeels said:
Obviously you kinda get the gist of it but you shoudln't have to be doing in-game homework to understand WTF is going on. Some kind of narrated prologue would have been nice..
ps: Orion is still kicking my ass. I've tried everything from steelguard switching to timing my attacks when he's closer. WTF am I missing. I'm anxious to see the rest of this chapter cos shit just got REAL
Kasumi1970
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it might be your 360......it not like that when I played that partDresden said:
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the in-world lingo is a bit of a toughie.
usually you'd get that info by talking to a random villager and reading through some typical text ('You DO know what a l'Cie is, don't you?' Yes/No), whereas here they, on the downside, are totally non-diegetic, but on the plus side, you can read that info quickly and simply at any time.
it's not an ideal situation, but the alternatives aren't that much better. but yes, there is definitely room for a more elegant delivery of that info.
by the end of chapter four, most of that info HAS been repeated enough, to be fair. a total understanding of everything as it's happening at the beginning of a story isn't totally necessary, I think. I guess it depends on your own taste.
usually you'd get that info by talking to a random villager and reading through some typical text ('You DO know what a l'Cie is, don't you?' Yes/No), whereas here they, on the downside, are totally non-diegetic, but on the plus side, you can read that info quickly and simply at any time.
it's not an ideal situation, but the alternatives aren't that much better. but yes, there is definitely room for a more elegant delivery of that info.
by the end of chapter four, most of that info HAS been repeated enough, to be fair. a total understanding of everything as it's happening at the beginning of a story isn't totally necessary, I think. I guess it depends on your own taste.
Tomorrow I am going to buy either Dragon age or final fantasy XIII.
Which one should I go for? Dragon is age only $5 cheaper used.
I need a good story or I lose interest. I mostly play sports games nowadays. I haven't really finished a game all the way since Knights of the Old Republic. I LOVED THAT GAME. I used to play some of the final fantasy games on the snes and liked them, but I can't remember if I enjoyed the story. I recently tried fallout 3 and the world felt a little too open to where I couldn't decide what to do next. I prefer combat systems that don't involve too much manual targeting like in fallout 3. Which is why I used to enjoy final fantasy's turn based and KOTORS round based combat.
Which one should I go for? Dragon is age only $5 cheaper used.
I need a good story or I lose interest. I mostly play sports games nowadays. I haven't really finished a game all the way since Knights of the Old Republic. I LOVED THAT GAME. I used to play some of the final fantasy games on the snes and liked them, but I can't remember if I enjoyed the story. I recently tried fallout 3 and the world felt a little too open to where I couldn't decide what to do next. I prefer combat systems that don't involve too much manual targeting like in fallout 3. Which is why I used to enjoy final fantasy's turn based and KOTORS round based combat.
BocoDragon
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It was all in the datalog from the moment they first mentioned those terms. Perhaps Square shouldn't have done that in your opinion, but if you had taken advantage of their method of storytelling, you would have learned the info quite early on without the need to be fed a talky, expository cutscene.Cloudy said:
IMO it's an RPG... not that every game should be like this, but putting backstory in a menu is a perfectly logical way to handle it, and it really frees the early cutscenes from being talky and unrealistic. Without the datalog, a lot of the dialogue would have played out like "It's one of the Fal'cie, who you should know, are the powerful beings who control every aspect of our lives". Putting the backstory into a "book" is much like real life: No one's going to tell you that Obama was elected president last year when they talk.. if you're in the dark its up to you to look up that fact. I know a story is a little different than life, but if one game tries to mimic that reality then it shouldn't be considered a failure of storytelling.
I don't think they should do every RPG storyline like this... but as one of those one-off experiments that they do in every FF, I think it's very interesting. Of course I'm lucky, I learned the important role of the datalog less than an hour into the game.
Usually when they talk about a Fal'cie it's the worst, because they usually only just say Fal'cie. It took me three hours into the game before cracking open the datalog and realizing that theres multiple Fal'cie, that do different things, and even play for different teams. Overall it's pretty sad that they left out a little exposition to make things seem smoother, when in reality you have to do some reading after a cutscene just to put some context on the conversation in relation to the game world.
Houston3000
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I read through the Datalogs so I had absolutely no trouble following the story. However, if I hadn't read them I still think I would be able to follow along just fine. As a matter of fact, sometimes the dialogue seems a little redundant to me because the characters start explaining stuff that I already read in the Datalog 10 minutes earlier.
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cubanb said:
Did you also pose this question in the Dragon Age thread? Or do you really just want us to say FFXIII and call it a day?
BocoDragon said:
I didn't realize how important it was till I started reading the 13 days info so you have a point. I REALLY hate the greyscale menu screen so I avoided it early on unless I had to build up characters :lol
If SE is gonna have us reading all the crap in-game, make a better menu >_<
This is what I meant. It doesn't really make sense till you realize that :lol
spiderman123
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Dunno if anybody posted this but this is a hilarious video of FF13 made by IGN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MmG41Tllxo&feature=player_embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MmG41Tllxo&feature=player_embedded#
BocoDragon
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I never thought the menu was ugly.. I thought it was high tech but classy. Oh well that's a really subjective point. :lolCloudy said:
BocoDragon
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Cloudy said:
I must have been up in that datalog... because I can't really conceive of any point in the game's storyline where I would have been confused if there were one or multiple Fal-Cie.. From the beginning I understood that the vestige contained one Pulse Fal'Cie, of which there are many, and then later, they introduce that Cocoon has their own Fal'cie... Read that datalog, kids! :lol
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