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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn |OT| World Full. Try again later. Please Understand
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Clever Pun
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Except one of the aspects of FFXIV (and XI before it) is that any character can be any class as long as you take the time to level it up and get the right equipment. Now that's not the case with the 2 ACN jobs.
And it's easy to say quit whining now, but what happens when a class you are playing suddenly gets a new job in an expansion that requires different stats than what you built into? Now you are punished for not skilling for a job that didn't even exist when you got those attribute points?
Just started playing and I've run into a weird problem. I started the game on Max settings (GTX 660, i7) and it was running about 50 FPS. As soon as I left New Gridania, the game kinda blinked out for a couple of seconds. When it came back up, I was suddenly getting 10 FPS. Even when I turned the settings down to Standard, I was only getting like 27 FPS. Is this happening to anyone else?
user1337
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I'd focus more on armourer and blacksmith for your class as you use more metal based equipment. Leather works is probably best for pugilist/monks.
Also if you want to stick materia to your gear that has materia slots...you will need the right class to add the materia. So a leatherworker can only add materia to leather equipment. Generally your equipment stats will tell you what you need to repaire and add materia. (also, you need to be level 19 in that class to learn how to bind, once unlocked on 1 class its unlocked on all..but you still need the right class for each weapon/armour/item).
Ultimately however the plan would be to max out all the classes
I use 360 controller on PC, and removing HUD is either LB + Back or LB + Start (one removes HUD, other takes screenshot).
Yes. I posted about it on the official forums and a few others did as well. Seems to be an Nvidia thing.
Apparently there are beta drivers out right now that improves performance but I havent looked into them yet.
The "fix" is to alt-tab out of the game back to your desktop, wait a few seconds, and then alt-tab back in. Your fps should be normal.
The good news is that it only seems to do this once per playthrough. Every single time it happens to me, it happens within the first hour and never repeats afterwards.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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How did you find out they shipped it without your address on the box?
You can reset skill points. Costs 10,000 seals, but it's possible.
Awesome. Thanks!
demosthenes
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Why is this the assumption? They posted on the NA lodestone didn't they?
LostInNoise
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If anyone from GAF makes a character on Malboro, hit me up. I got stuck there during P4 and have met a pretty good group of people already.
LOL. I don't even know what to say to this. Are you seriously saying you cannot play both jobs just because you can't have full bonus attributes on both of them? Seriously?
I main the job I like better, simple.
Punished? By the time they add more jobs, even players new to ARR will have had time to get several classes to cap and enough GC seals to buy respecs.
And if you want to look at it your way, then all the more reason why ACN has it so good right now.
Not 100% true for FFXI in that certain races were better suited for specific jobs. There was some wiggle room there, but certain races were almost preferred for certain jobs either due to base mana pool or stats. Some of it could be overcome with benefits in other areas (Taru PLD with large mana pools to heal for example). The playing field is much more flat here and is more on the person to decide how to stat their character.
To the second bolded section, I am quite sure people will be able to specialize their gear to overcome any issues they have have with their stat distribution. You can always respec if you need to with GC seals. Not sure about anyone else here, but I plan on mastering at least 1 job from each part of the trinity (tank, healer, dps) and then completing the rest just for the accomplishment.
Scroll lock.
demosthenes
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Omlet, you should point out that you have pretty much ever job/class to 50.
It's say because the name of the topic is "[NA]Regarding Congestion in Japan Data Center Worlds (Aug. 27)", but reading the actual contents of the post gave me the impression that they're adding new hardware everywhere.
notworksafe
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Because they're racist against the whites. Clearly that's the most obvious answer.
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It's like people in my FC saying you NEED to pick X GC because of the stats the equipment gives.
Just like everyone else who sticks with the game for several months will.
MagicWithEarvin
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It's weird how they're addressing "JP Data Centers" as if the majority of issues were there in the first place...
demosthenes
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I have a single counter-argument to all of this. Justify how the game is better with assignable attributes VS just having attributes go up with level. Justify the pros VS cons. It's not close. The only thing this system does is make players feel bad and have less fun. If that's it's intended function then it's a resounding success. If the intention is to allow customization that is hot garbage. This is not customization. Even WoW's talent system is 1000x better than this.
Clever Pun
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Ok, then if the skill points don't matter that much, then all the more reason that giving the option to put them in how you like is more than illusion of choice than anything else.
And even if respecing were free it's way too tedious to do every time you want to switch roles. What if your party decides they need more DPS instead of a healer?
Agreed - why not just let the job have its own stat allocations the way classes do? They've done a lot to make switching between roles a lot easier in ARR, but stat allocations definitely seem to be the one point that goes against the grain.
HeavensSword
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I really hope that is the case, but if so, they need to fix the title of that post... Will just cause more unrest.
Do we know how an end game summoner fare DPS wise compared to a Black Mage. And how an end game Scholar compares to a White Mage healing wise? Can they replace a WM as a healer for instances?
You will be viable even if you don't min-max. Go 50-50 with the bonus stats if like both classes equally. It's a tiny price for having the freedom to switch roles.
notworksafe
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Plenty of people are having fun. Maybe you should get over yourself? It helps you to improve the job you like to play the most and doesn't really hurt the other jobs in a significant manner.
No need to foam at the mouth for something so small.
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But how is this any different than someone in FFXI with a 75 WAR and 75 WHM in regards to Merit Points?
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Yes.
Each class has it's own points to allocate.
The only issue is whatever class has two jobs.
Skyfireblaze
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Haha DDL wishes he had those skills.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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"Yosh doesn't care about white people"
demosthenes
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Once the duty finder gets sorted this won't be a problem. I really liked how they sent you to all 3 nations to try 3 different dungeons. Gave good exposure to party play and the other nations. Hopefully the duty finder becomes more efficient.
Clever Pun
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I didn't feel like anyone was foaming at the mouth! I'm certainly arguing more for the sake of discussion than anything else. Most aspects of the game encourage try out everything, and being able to do it effectively, except for this. At least so far. Maybe we'll all find out it doesn't matter that much in the end (which is why I'm not actually stressing about it in game when it's time to apply new points), but it definitely seems to encourage the sentiment that there is a right and wrong way to apply the points.
The last thing we need is the community to develop the attitude that you are bad at your secondary job just because you set your stats for your primary.
It may not be different in the end (I never did Merit Points in XI), but did people like that system? Could it not be improved upon?
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Hnnnnnng. My Collector's Editions arrived, but now I have to wait for the PSN Store to update. D:
user1337
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Might try to see if that works on the ps3.
Oh so that's what that was? Methought I was pushing my new 760 too much and had to pull down the OC sliders a bit. Hopefully some stable drivers come soon, I mostly get solid 60+fps@1080p except in centre of towns.
Loving the game, got my lancer to 16 yesterday before building up the marauder class. Pretty standard and enjoyable MMO fare so far, but I feel there are few worlds as rich in lore, charm and atmosphere as FF ones. Will probably sub after my 2 week legacy period is over.
Not entirely related but i've never seen an arcanist healer, or a scholar as of yet. Can they even heal on their own before Scholar or do they have to take all the healing abilities from cross class.
I'd focus more on armourer and blacksmith for your class as you use more metal based equipment. Leather works is probably best for pugilist/monks.
Also if you want to stick materia to your gear that has materia slots...you will need the right class to add the materia. So a leatherworker can only add materia to leather equipment. Generally your equipment stats will tell you what you need to repaire and add materia. (also, you need to be level 19 in that class to learn how to bind, once unlocked on 1 class its unlocked on all..but you still need the right class for each weapon/armour/item).
Ultimately however the plan would be to max out all the classes
Thanks for the advice! I think the bold is my issue, because that's kind of what I want, but it's hard figuring out the order I want to do it in
.Regardless, I think right now my focus will be on a lot of crafting (because I like it) with a heavier focus on armourer and blacksmith. I also want to move toward PLD first, so I guess getting conj to level 15 wouldn't hurt - sucks that I got a purple level 15 wand haha, would have been more useful at a lower level
.I wish I was on another server so I could play with some Gaffers, but at the same time, I don't mind playing 'alone' (or with strangers) until I get more comfy with the game, and I'll just move to a north american server when they allow world changes!
Just pointing out that the system didn't hinder you
It does, though. I'm leveling ACN and will have to chose where to put my points. And if more jobs are released, I'll have to chose again on my classes I play.
I never argued the system was good or better, only that people are making a big deal out of something that is not anywhere near the mountain they're making it out to be. I'd personally not mind one bit if it was gone but people flailing around like fools saying it's some kind of deal-breaking bad feature are just hilarious.
The system is for role specialization, not role customization. There's a difference.
MagicWithEarvin
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There are currently 450+ GAF members in the FC, then you've got the GiantBomb peeps in the same server as well. Ultros is poppin'.
SoraanTribal
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The fact of the matter is... allotting attribute points is a very boring way to customize your character. I would have preferred something more along the lines of Merit Points from FFXI where you customize your favorite abilities or add new ones. Stat points is as bare bones "customization" you can get. Yes, you can add abilities to your job from other classes, but there's really not many to choose from.
The game being good doesn't mean each and every system is good. It's a bad system. There is no need to justify due to the rest of the game being good. Why do I have to get over myself? Because I think some parts of this game are bad? Should people saying some parts of this game are good get over themselves too?
notworksafe
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Eh, XI used to blow up about your race not matching your class. Parts of a community will always develop a shitty attitude, unfortunately. Right now it doesn't seem to actually matter much, but I guess we'll have to see how endgame gear does with stats to see.
For me, as long as a player is competent at their job a few stat points aligned for a different job/class doesn't really matter.
Free company is a guild, you can join that whenever. Grand Company is a story thing and that's at L20ish.
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