Rising_Hei
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Eh, doesn't really stop someone from making a 2nd and 3rd char
It's harder for them to be lot whores, thought!!
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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn |OT3| LFT Full Relic and DL Required
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It's harder for them to be lot whores, thought!!
tiggerkiddo
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They definitely should increase it, its too slow as it is now, that's why some of us alternate between AF2 and allagan drops... you should do the same if you get an spot as DRG in AV's 1st set party or in a new set
lol didnt know you're here too!
Yeah I should start looking for a Coil set, but some of you guys play till too late at night!
Next week I have some days off work so I'll look into it (either getting on a established set or create a new one).
Anyways, being a replace in a SET for when a DD cant assist should be more than enough for me, I dont really need to go all hardcore in endgame raiding like in the FFXI days. Problem is the lack of experience in the fights :/
Augemitbutter
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Did you guys buy the Relic Weapon yet? (not the +1). I can buy either Breastplate or Relic Weapon next week, I have been unsuccessful getting the Ifrit weapon and only run Garuda once
not yet. i'm currently using garuda axe.
Huh what? On what server and when?
After I hit 30 and went WHM my queues went up to 40+ mins wait time.
tiggerkiddo
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On Ultros, I never had to wait longer than 10 minutes at most.
Leviathan and Bahamut, everytime betwen 1pm PST and 5amish
Did a couple runs of Brayflox with my character on Siren yesterday, which is a 36 Monk, and managed to nab the body and legs of the Infantry set, plus a weapon.
That aside, I've had a couple interesting parties and I wanted to share the experience.
One of the parties had a WAR tank that didn't know how to tank. I only know a little bit about Marauders and only up to like, level 15, but the WHM in the party seemed to know some about them, so he told the WAR to keep Defiance on and certain things. The WAR didn't really listen too much, Defiance wasn't on for example during the first boss, so agro was all over the place, and with the other fights on trash, despite the WHM sleeping, marking and trying to help as much as possible, he'd end up tanking most of the time. The party though wasn't too bad, at least until the last boss, which we already knew would suck and had laughed about it. I ended up tanking a bit during the fight and after the WAR died, I was tanking full time. It was even going well, until I didn't dodge a breath I thought I had dodged, and that lead to a wipe.
At this point, we tried another time with the WAR tanking, but it led to a quick wipe and so the WHM suggested we do it with me tanking, which seemed to work at first, but naturally at some point during the fight, even dodging breaths really well, I'd lose aggro.
The WAR even stopped coming into the boss fight (for a couple attempts he was sitting at the zone in), as the WHM described him useless, though for the last fight he, the WAR, actually spoke. He said he was on PS3, and that typing was really difficult. He said that as he was at the entrance of the boss chamber, so I told him "dodge the breaths, move the boss out of poisons pools and try to keep Defiance always on" (remembering what the WHM told him earlier) while the WHM was a little annoyed as he told him that he had tried giving him suggestions and tips through the whole instance while being completely ignored.
Anyways, this time the WAR performs sorta well (his Defiance keeps coming and going) and we kill the boss.
On one hand this was a fun experience (it even dropped the Infantry top, which I won and the WHM said well deserved), on the other it felt rather weird. I don't think the WAR was a complete idiot and I think playing on PS3 or with a pad can be problematic for certain things, but it is kind of strange when you see people get into the 30 level range dungeons that don't use even the basic mechanics of their class, like pulling with a range skill (the WAR would use it only from time to time, preferring to body pull or standing around, which might have been to regain TP, but with no notice to the party it will look weird).
Another party had a WHM and Paladin that were new to the instance, so I took it on myself to explain to them every boss fight and the saving the goblin affair. The other DPS in the party explained the first boss, saying "sleep the boss and kill the adds". I was sure the boss couldn't be put to sleep, but I said nothing there because I remember someone in the past, one time, telling me the same thing, so hey, maybe it can be done. Sure enough the WHM had aggro from the boss and was about to die lol. We managed anyways and progressed on. I explained about the goblins and number of spawns, but at the first spawn of 3 mobs we had a half wipe because the tank died, though I managed to last long enough for the others to get back so e didn't miss the coffer.
Rest of the instance went smoothly until the last boss, where we wiped some because the tank didn't manage to dodge enough breaths, bringing the WHM oom. I tried to give him a tip about staying really close to the dragon, since you can stand like in him and still hit him, so he could dodge the breath by simply walking a little up, but it didn't seem like he completely understood that, so he started to just shield bash the breaths, which worked for a while, but it meant I generated so much more threat than him that at some point I'd end up taking hits, so I had to stop attacking.
We wiped 4 or 5 times, I'm not sure, but at some point the other DPS, a level 33 Archer dropped without saying a word. We got a replacement quick, a BLM and I reiterated to the WHM to only cure poison if it's at 2/3 stacks because 1/2 it doesn't do much damage and a simple cure is enough to keep us going, so she would have more mana for the whole fight (and this time she did have much more throughout the fight). The PLD seemed to have gotten the hang on dodging the breaths consistently and we managed to drop that poisonous bastard.
It felt good despite the wipes on the last boss, because there wasn't whining and beause it was cool seeing people learn the fights and making improvements, even trying out some of their own ideas to try and survive.
Oh, and the dragon dropped the Battlemage top, which the WHM won. Made me feel happy I admit, after all those wipes.
That aside, I've had a couple interesting parties and I wanted to share the experience.
One of the parties had a WAR tank that didn't know how to tank. I only know a little bit about Marauders and only up to like, level 15, but the WHM in the party seemed to know some about them, so he told the WAR to keep Defiance on and certain things. The WAR didn't really listen too much, Defiance wasn't on for example during the first boss, so agro was all over the place, and with the other fights on trash, despite the WHM sleeping, marking and trying to help as much as possible, he'd end up tanking most of the time. The party though wasn't too bad, at least until the last boss, which we already knew would suck and had laughed about it. I ended up tanking a bit during the fight and after the WAR died, I was tanking full time. It was even going well, until I didn't dodge a breath I thought I had dodged, and that lead to a wipe.
At this point, we tried another time with the WAR tanking, but it led to a quick wipe and so the WHM suggested we do it with me tanking, which seemed to work at first, but naturally at some point during the fight, even dodging breaths really well, I'd lose aggro.
The WAR even stopped coming into the boss fight (for a couple attempts he was sitting at the zone in), as the WHM described him useless, though for the last fight he, the WAR, actually spoke. He said he was on PS3, and that typing was really difficult. He said that as he was at the entrance of the boss chamber, so I told him "dodge the breaths, move the boss out of poisons pools and try to keep Defiance always on" (remembering what the WHM told him earlier) while the WHM was a little annoyed as he told him that he had tried giving him suggestions and tips through the whole instance while being completely ignored.
Anyways, this time the WAR performs sorta well (his Defiance keeps coming and going) and we kill the boss.
On one hand this was a fun experience (it even dropped the Infantry top, which I won and the WHM said well deserved), on the other it felt rather weird. I don't think the WAR was a complete idiot and I think playing on PS3 or with a pad can be problematic for certain things, but it is kind of strange when you see people get into the 30 level range dungeons that don't use even the basic mechanics of their class, like pulling with a range skill (the WAR would use it only from time to time, preferring to body pull or standing around, which might have been to regain TP, but with no notice to the party it will look weird).
Another party had a WHM and Paladin that were new to the instance, so I took it on myself to explain to them every boss fight and the saving the goblin affair. The other DPS in the party explained the first boss, saying "sleep the boss and kill the adds". I was sure the boss couldn't be put to sleep, but I said nothing there because I remember someone in the past, one time, telling me the same thing, so hey, maybe it can be done. Sure enough the WHM had aggro from the boss and was about to die lol. We managed anyways and progressed on. I explained about the goblins and number of spawns, but at the first spawn of 3 mobs we had a half wipe because the tank died, though I managed to last long enough for the others to get back so e didn't miss the coffer.
Rest of the instance went smoothly until the last boss, where we wiped some because the tank didn't manage to dodge enough breaths, bringing the WHM oom. I tried to give him a tip about staying really close to the dragon, since you can stand like in him and still hit him, so he could dodge the breath by simply walking a little up, but it didn't seem like he completely understood that, so he started to just shield bash the breaths, which worked for a while, but it meant I generated so much more threat than him that at some point I'd end up taking hits, so I had to stop attacking.
We wiped 4 or 5 times, I'm not sure, but at some point the other DPS, a level 33 Archer dropped without saying a word. We got a replacement quick, a BLM and I reiterated to the WHM to only cure poison if it's at 2/3 stacks because 1/2 it doesn't do much damage and a simple cure is enough to keep us going, so she would have more mana for the whole fight (and this time she did have much more throughout the fight). The PLD seemed to have gotten the hang on dodging the breaths consistently and we managed to drop that poisonous bastard.
It felt good despite the wipes on the last boss, because there wasn't whining and beause it was cool seeing people learn the fights and making improvements, even trying out some of their own ideas to try and survive.
Oh, and the dragon dropped the Battlemage top, which the WHM won. Made me feel happy I admit, after all those wipes.
yes but using cure+freecure shouldn't put you out of mana as quickly as someone just spamming cure II on every little damage
tiggerkiddo
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I hate healing Brayflox, even though the dungeon can be pretty fun.
Darn debuffs...
Darn debuffs...
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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The easiest method is to have the healer keep regen up so that when the adds spawn, they immediately go for the healer. Let the healer kite the adds while the DPS ignores them all except for the Marshall. LB on the Marshall to take it out ASAP and then focus back on the boss.
I think 2 is the current limit, according to GAF FC chat.
Yeah, that's just an awful player, not just an awful WAR. I play WAR on PS3 with a pad (though I do have a KB to chat with), and there is no reason other than pure clumsiness that Defiance should be going on and off. Can't speak to how the class handles endgame, but through the main storyline a WAR can handle everything just fine. It's just we hear stories about bad ones that make the class look bad. Sad, isn't it?
SoraanTribal
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Provoke is on a 40s cooldown iirc. And like someone else said, Turn 2 requires a tank swap after getting stacks of a debuff on them. One tank gets 4 stacks of a damage increasing debuff, switch to other tank with Provoke, get 4 stacks, other tank Provokes back, etc.
Just as a note, Mac Aroni is no longer in Red Dot if you could update the OP. Thanks!
Torquill
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No that would meant getting inside the red area, which would meant falling off
. The shape of the red is irrelevant, circle, cone, rectangle, or in this case, ring. In all cases stay away!...unless it's Zantetsuken. Then burn that mother fucker down!
Amon-Lau
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Really? I love healing in Brayflox~ xD
After countless runs init I've been able to keep my mp from never going down past the halfpoint, unless I'm doing it with a reckless DF tank in which case he runs me dry... X_X
The only boss part that can be slept is the second (or is it third? Has been a while) one where the little dragon joins the fight against the main boss while chasing the goblin. You can sleep the main boss, kill the add chasing the goblin and then finish off the main boss
I went healing. The chocobo isn't going to keep the attention of the enemy with the amount of damage I'm dealing as a black mage. Nor would it be able to stay alive long enough if it did without something or someone healing him as wel since it won't dodge attacks. So I rather have regen cast on me and be healed. Even as a melee fight I would think the healer line would still be more effective.
The only boss part that can be slept is the second (or is it third? Has been a while) one where the little dragon joins the fight against the main boss while chasing the goblin. You can sleep the main boss, kill the add chasing the goblin and then finish off the main boss
The first one can as well I believe, the big bird thing with adds right?
There are dev posts saying they are increasing the gil flow. By way of dailys, random dungeon rewards, and "other" means.
demosthenes
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17 million is a lot even on a legacy server. There is an npc to fix cracked materia.
SnakeLinkSonic
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Yeah, that has nothing to do with a gamepad or even the WAR class itself at that dungeon/level. It was just an amateur player (or a dope). I've done everything outside of Coil in this game with mine on a pad with no problem. People are just more likely to come across a WAR that doesn't know what he's doing than a PLD, which of course doesn't do much for the increasingly poor reputation of the job at large.
At least WHM gets Esuna.
Thanks for the advice. Why wouldn't I want the Wyrm legs? And for the head: acc/det > crit/det? I guess the mobs start dodging more as the game progresses? It's starting to feel like FFXI in that regard where dexterity was important
It's completely insane that leeches isn't learned until level 40.
Even worse when DF players don't use either of them at all on tanks or players.
MikeE21286
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Really want to jump into this. Doing a lot of reading up on the account systems and how it all works.
Very tempted to get the PS3 version for $40 and then jump into the PS4 version for free. Seems like a cheap route even though I have a PC that can most likely play this. I'd rather my "final" version be on PS4 I'm thinking.
Very tempted to get the PS3 version for $40 and then jump into the PS4 version for free. Seems like a cheap route even though I have a PC that can most likely play this. I'd rather my "final" version be on PS4 I'm thinking.
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devious.one
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Come on... this is the ultimate exaggeration. The only thing I haven't seen a Warrior MT yet is Turn 5, and no one has even beat that with a Paladin MT yet.
Bomber Bob
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You can use your account on both pc and console.
buy pc and wait for the inevitable 9$ ps3 copy
This has always been the narrative with SE though. They completely botch a tank for a while, come back with some fixes and botch the other. I fully expect a WAR change and in turn a PLD change. If 1.0 has taught us anything, it's that Yoshi isn't afraid to flip the shit on tanks. WARs dominated for ages and it was literally facerollcity to tank with them for ages then PLD picked up and finally at the end of 1.23 they sort of balanced.
ARR is clearly PLDtown right now, but I doubt that'll be the case despite the fact that he's saying WARs are fine. They said the same thing in 1.0 before they changed them.
It is. Brayflox imho doesn't need all that much dispelling, though it helps, but I still don't feel like doing it as Scholar, unless going in with a full group.
Nuts.Pistachio_Nuts!
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Ps4 version I believe has keyboard and mouse suppport like actual pc version. So that may be best way if you're getting a ps4 anyway.
devious.one
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Due to how learning skills is set up (one new job skill every 5 levels) I think 40 is as early as they could have gotten it outside of just putting Leeches on the Arcanist skill table (which I think they wanted to avoid because of summoner having access to it). Adloquium and Succor seem much more useful then Leeches in terms of which you would want to learn first.
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PS3 version is atrocious and you will likely get kicked from some speedruns for loading slow as shit.
Clever Pun
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It wasn't too bad doing Brayflox as a SCH. I was able to complete it first time with a DF group. Granted, everyone was friendly, and the tank had experience, but it still wasn't too bad. I found the first boss of Aurum Vale to be way harder as SCH, with how fast the fairy dies.
Thanks for the advice. Why wouldn't I want the Wyrm legs? And for the head: acc/det > crit/det? I guess the mobs start dodging more as the game progresses? It's starting to feel like FFXI in that regard where dexterity was important
Is there a similar breakout for whm? I'm interested in making these comparisons as well, even though I haven't started running coil yet. Good to know in advance how best to spend my myths.
I wouldn't say it's atrocious...it's playable. For the story content you'll be just fine. Grinding at endgame will become an issue as will the lag on hard mode bosses. If you plan on casually making your way through the game and dabbling in endgame, ps3 is fine. Hardcore MMO players fast forwarding to the endgame grind will want pc. Oh one other thing...if you are playing on PS3 get a keyboard!
ping is extremely important for end-game stuff, right?
I have been playing with 260~300 ping(playing US server from Asia), didn't really have too big of a problem until 50.
I heard ping is really important for end-game dungeons, especially Titan HM.
Has anyone with high ping tried these end-game stuff? How are they?
I have been playing with 260~300 ping(playing US server from Asia), didn't really have too big of a problem until 50.
I heard ping is really important for end-game dungeons, especially Titan HM.
Has anyone with high ping tried these end-game stuff? How are they?
They could teach more than one skill for one of the quests.
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