Yeah. Try not to move the enemy around for no reason (some melee dps abilities require flank/back positioning). I discovered how annoying twitchy tanks are while leveling my drg. lol
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Yeah. Try not to move the enemy around for no reason (some melee dps abilities require flank/back positioning). I discovered how annoying twitchy tanks are while leveling my drg. lol
Yeah, discovered that recently myself. Granted I don't think I was especially twitchy before, but it's definitely taught me to make the slowest most minimal motions possible when dodging AoE's, in order to minimize the disruption to the DPSing.
Granted, it's extremely difficult to do that if you find yourself in the middle of several enemies AoE indicators simultaneously. The urge to leap out of harms way is compounded by the indecision over which direction is best to leap. XD
Well (so far), any time the mob starts an AOE attack, he's frozen in place during his casting, I wouldn't think you'd need to be concerned about being "twitchy"
What I figure, is, on the Straight Line/Quarter Circle attacks, get to the side edge to avoid the attack, and try to make it back to the center of that same spot once the attack is happening (if you're out of the indicator when the spell is starting the cast, it basically won't hurt you, even if you run back in there during the attack, right?)
The complete circle, I figure, just go backwards and get out of the area, then go straight back in.
How I've tried in XI games, is to have the rest of the party behind the mob, while I'm in the front. I imagine that's how it generally is in this game? Should give the most obvious clue if I'm losing aggro, by having it start to turn around away from me.
What I figure, is, on the Straight Line/Quarter Circle attacks, get to the side edge to avoid the attack, and try to make it back to the center of that same spot once the attack is happening (if you're out of the indicator when the spell is starting the cast, it basically won't hurt you, even if you run back in there during the attack, right?)
The complete circle, I figure, just go backwards and get out of the area, then go straight back in.
How I've tried in XI games, is to have the rest of the party behind the mob, while I'm in the front. I imagine that's how it generally is in this game? Should give the most obvious clue if I'm losing aggro, by having it start to turn around away from me.
Stone Ocean
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The Leviathan weapons look fucking cool. I hope they're actually worth getting unlike Ifrit and Garuda weapons.
Ermahgerd Lerviathan Lord of the Whorl
Stone Ocean
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Yes and yes. No idea how trophies will work, I'd figure you'd have to actually do the stuff on the PS4 - beat this dungeon, beat that boss, finish the story - to actually unlock them.
tiggerkiddo
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I believe they're supposed to be better than alagan weapons.
I don't know if I believe that.
Well, if Leviathan Extreme is harder then Titan Extreme, it'd certainly justify getting better weapons then the Allagan stuff. XD
Odd that I'm actually looking forward to it. XD
Are you sure about that? I'd thought I'd heard differently.
If so, what'd drop from Extreme Mode? Generally they want these fights to be farmed after all.
Robobandit
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ilvl 90+ necklace would be a good choice. The other ex primals have earrings, a ring and a bracelet.
Mmm, well only if it's indeed over level 90. With the lockout being lifted on Coil 1-5, I can't see anyone farming Leviathan Extreme for anything less than level 100 jewelry.
Stone Ocean
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I doubt they'll be ilvl 85, otherwise why even bother - aside from Vanity that is?
My bet is that 2.2 will increase ilvl as a whole. We're getting more turns and dungeons, if they don't start being ilvl 95 upwards then they're pointless by default, specially considering Leviathan is supposed to be really fucking hard and it'll probably be extra hard for melee DPS jobs - good luck MNK players.
My bet is that 2.2 will increase ilvl as a whole. We're getting more turns and dungeons, if they don't start being ilvl 95 upwards then they're pointless by default, specially considering Leviathan is supposed to be really fucking hard and it'll probably be extra hard for melee DPS jobs - good luck MNK players.
Even with the coil unlock people will likely still struggle to beat T4 and T5...
Yeah, but a lot of the accessories for many classes are on Turns 1 and 2, which are easily farm-able.
Also, if Leviathan Extreme is indeed harder than Titan, I'm not sure I'd see any groups that can't clear T4 clearing LeviEX.
You're right about T5 of course, but, does any jewelry even drop in T5?
Worst "battle preview" ever. A single picture of the boss, and...that's it? No ilevel requirement, no real shots of the actual fight. Wish the live letter was sooner, want to see some actual footage of the fight like the quick clips they did for the extreme trio before 2.1.
As for the drop talk, pretty sure Yoshida said the extreme version would drop weapons. We don't know ilevels but I'd expect i95 or i100 at least. If HM has weapons too then i85 could work I guess, but I don't know why they'd add an i85 set when they are removing myth cap. i90 is basically becoming the new DL. Whether or not EX is i95 or i100 would probably depend on what ilevel the new coil stuff is. I don't expect Leviathan to be harder than Twintania, so it could be used as a stepping stone to get you a weapon for the new turns. (And even if you do have Twin on farm who wants to farm a 11-13 minute fight?)
tiggerkiddo
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And imagine if those new turns are just like Turn 4...
Turn 4 isint bad/hard though
eh heh heh.... heh...
tiggerkiddo
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You have obviously not pugged it enough!
If you go by the competency of pugs this is one of the hardest games ever created.
tiggerkiddo
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Most of the population probably hasn't even beat HM Titan
This.
Exactly my point.
I mean I've seen DF runs that struggle with normal mode Titan. Some people are just beyond hope.
edits- This reminds me of that cool census thing they did that showed average level/class ratios/etc. I'd love to get an updated version of that sometime.
If the echo buffs work the same way they do for quests, then a lot of people will still have issue with Twintania unless they adjust some of the mechanics. Supposedly they don't plan to do that, but they already went against that by stealth nerfing snake HP so who knows what they will do.
I could see them removing the 9999 damage from hitting the wall, slowing dread a bit, and maybe making twisters a set damage if you trigger one rather than instakill. That'd probably make it doable for most pugs.
Relaxed Muscle
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I beat Titan HM on a DF 2 days ago.
I think I should play lottery next.
If my 1.0 companion dosn't come back for ARR, I'm gonna rage.
I want my slut cat, damnit!
Didn't they say they wanted to do another turn just like T4 for the new turns?
It really is. Even more so than Sastasha if you can believe it.
Unknown Soldier
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Leviathan is coming as HM and EX. It seems safe to guess that HM will be similar to current HMs, but EX will be the hardest EX yet.
Poor Kags.
tiggerkiddo
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Other than hoping for drops from dungeons, just buy a HQ weapon off the markets every 7-10 levels or so.
GraveRobberX
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If you want to save gil and somehow can FATE farm (you will with the influx of new PS4 users), get the Grand Company Weapons
Right now a lot of PS4 users are playing FFXIV as it was for us on release week
Hit FATE's really hard, I saw level 20's running around recently
If they ingrain in their heads and not try to be dungeon all the time, it will be very beneficial to them
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So much useless fish get caught, also double mooching is hilarious and the fish outcomes you get
Zomba13
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If you're ok with the pad then it's fine. That's what I use. Only problems I have with it were the auto-run when adjusting camera (fixed now) and the occasional disconnect (my problem, not games).
Get better weapons from dungeons/class quests mainly. Not much use buying one while leveling up. Once at lvl cap get better weapon from AK/WP or give HM primals a go then work on your Relic weapon.
Can also get one from the Grand Company if you have enough seals. GC equips last a fair few levels.
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