Unknown Soldier
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I wonder if this means we're going back to speedrunning trivial 4 man content again just to hit the cap on new tomes faster.
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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn |OT3| LFT Full Relic and DL Required
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90? Should be higher than that. Doesn't make sense to have gear that outdated coming out in 2.3. Would have to be 100/110 or something like that.
I want to see the new gear.
WeaponKnight
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Or do it like me, never capping myth or dailies and not getting sick of doing the same SR all the time.
Yes, we will. But I'll take that over CT.
Not playing the game is definitely a good way to not get tired of it.
WeaponKnight
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I played every day, I just never focused on capping stuff.
It does get to be counter-intuitive after awhile. I mean, Myth is almost always worth Capping, but running CT every week often isn't worth it. Granted, that's mostly because I don't want to get sick of CT runs. XD
Edit: for newer players, or people gearing up multiple Level 50 classes, CT drops aren't worthless. It's worthless for people whom have been at 50 for ages and aren't doing a ton of gearing up, it's kinda pointless, as you can usually gear up via Myth and Allagan faster. If you're gearing up multiple classes at once, or you're gearing up your first 50, CT gear is helpful.
Last week was the first week since early October that I didn't cap myth. At first it felt bad but then I realized that the past few weeks I've just been blowing myth on jobs I hardly even play anymore.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
wow @ the last couple pages of this thread.
You aren't nearly as innocent as you portray graverobber. I don't particularly mind people with abrasive attitudes as it mixes things up. What I do mind, are people who get all huffy when everybody doesn't stop what they are doing, halt their static progression, and help with content that was doable in roughly 30% of PUG groups.
If I were to assume, you had some guild at some point in your MMO career that handed you shit to boost you above other players. In FFXIV you had to actually earn them yourself and that was shocking and blame was placed on the "leadership". FFXIV is not structured well for carrying as it relies a lot on individual skill. If you're having trouble finding a static, it's likely your attitude and/or skill level (compounded by the PS3 limitations).
You aren't nearly as innocent as you portray graverobber. I don't particularly mind people with abrasive attitudes as it mixes things up. What I do mind, are people who get all huffy when everybody doesn't stop what they are doing, halt their static progression, and help with content that was doable in roughly 30% of PUG groups.
If I were to assume, you had some guild at some point in your MMO career that handed you shit to boost you above other players. In FFXIV you had to actually earn them yourself and that was shocking and blame was placed on the "leadership". FFXIV is not structured well for carrying as it relies a lot on individual skill. If you're having trouble finding a static, it's likely your attitude and/or skill level (compounded by the PS3 limitations).
It's the same for me. I'm not capping this week. It'll be my first week that I don't, but I'm okay with that. I think taking a break before 2.2 is the way to go for me. Now I can log on and do whatever I actually feel like instead of feeling pressured to do something else. Or not log on and play something else or watch TV or whatever. I don't regret capping every week before this, because it enabled cool stuff, but now we're on the verge of a patch that will maken i90 gear obsolete, so might as well take a break.
As much as I like the game and Yoshida, the mismanagement is pretty high. So much time/content wasted. I guess this works well for casual players, for the rest it most likely doesn't. It's really hard to justify to pay 10 a month for basically 1,5h content a week (and maybe 1-3weeks of after a new patch).
I don't expect 2.2 to bring anything really worthwhile to the table (or anything that lasts us until the next patch). Motivation in my FC/static has become 0 and I am just waiting for the first people to quit the game/play something else.
Please lets not argue. I realize some people get frustrated with X, Y, or Z situations, but these sorts of personality conflicts should be resolved privately, if they're going to be resolved at all. Otherwise it just poisons the atmosphere for everyone not involved in these conflicts.
Besides, I'm sure people need a little air, when it comes to this particular subject.
Relaxed Muscle
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Yesterday I got my last piece of CT (I have already 2 sets) and I think I won't do that place once again. Once I complete daily beast tribes quests I will be able to do other more relaxing stuff without feeling preassured. Having to do CT so many times to get my last piece really drained the mood of playing the game.
The fault is only mine, but my OCD gaming habits can kick hard sometimes
Welcome to my revelations a month ago.
This sounds really familiar... seems like the two GAF FCs have some things in common!
I still plan to Cap, just because it's useful to have ample Myth on hand for when you get a new class to 50. For example, I was able to get my DRG upto iLvl88, just three days after getting it to 50, in large part because of all the Myth I had stored up.
That said, the Myth Cap is being lifted in a few weeks, so if you're a little short I wouldn't go out of your way to cap. XD
That said, the Myth Cap is being lifted in a few weeks, so if you're a little short I wouldn't go out of your way to cap. XD
BTW, I have two questions.
First, seeing as I now have a DPS class, I'd like one of those programs that reads my DPS, so I can better read how good my damage is see when/where I need to make improvements. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
Second, how do you disable Camera-Locking a target when you click the left analog stick again? I've already disabled this myself, but, I know of at least one player that hasn't, and I'd like to be able to walk him through it.
First, seeing as I now have a DPS class, I'd like one of those programs that reads my DPS, so I can better read how good my damage is see when/where I need to make improvements. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
Second, how do you disable Camera-Locking a target when you click the left analog stick again? I've already disabled this myself, but, I know of at least one player that hasn't, and I'd like to be able to walk him through it.
tiggerkiddo
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I still cap myth since it seems gearing my WHM is not a bad idea just in case I have to go healer for my Coil group. If it wasn't for that, I doubt I'd be capping myth, I don't even bother capping myth on my alt anymore.
Then just ignore it? Let the mods deal with it if it's detracting from the thread.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
The mods should come in here and deal with that avatar of yours.
Like I said earlier, I never denied it!
I'm not intending to call you out or offend. There's nothing wrong with being busy and only having time to play in your static or with close friends. Life is more important than a video game. The issue is a good amount of the leadership is like this, and there is a disconnect I feel due to it. You need active leadership in my opinion.
It would be nice to see leadership arrange events, like full GAF CT runs, or Garuda EX learning runs for new members, as example. Help drive an actual team environment, instead of the fractured environment I feel we have now.
Honestly, people like Elrina and Tirazel (as example) feel more like the leaders I would expect than some of the actual leaders. They either try to arrange things or are always helping random members with different content. If I ever see someone ask for help, I always see "I'll help heal" by Tirazel.
That's the point I'm trying to make. I personally feel a disconnect, and I don't expect individual people to change if they are too busy to do anything but play with their statics, but if that's the case, maybe let's get new blood into the leadership group. One's that play outside their statics and are willing to arrange FC events.
Anyways, I'll leave it at that and drop it, since people are bothered by the debate. Just wanted to express my opinions.
Is this your first MMO?
Nope, my first was FFXI where I was in a linkshell where we had daily events and the goal of the group was to drive the betterment of the overall group. Help one person out, someone else helps you out, they help someone out. Pay it forward of gaming. Then you are able to tackle on a lot more as an entire community.
See, when I think "active leadership", I think people that log on frequently and are on hand enough to settle any problems or manage the FC in general. We have that. Officers, especially in an FC this big, don't need to be everyone's best friend and running other people through stuff all the time. They're there to grease the wheels and keep the machine running. They're management, not tour guides.
Even if we had more weekly events like we did ages ago, it wouldn't necessarily get people who want to play primarily with their friends to branch out either. It'll likely just get a lot of newer people to make friends, and if that is your ultimate goal, why aren't you scheduling your own events? Anyone can make an event on the FC website calendar.
I used to run stuff outside my static a lot more often, but that was purely due to the fact I played more often(and I still help out when I can), however now that I've essentially run out of content I only log on a few times a week. Yet even during those brief periods I am on, I still see people making spontaneous groups in FC all the time. It doesn't feel like a fractured environment at all.
I could however get behind the idea of having another Leadership vote like we did like 5 months ago(has it really been that long?). Many of those elected did used to run groups all the time, but like most people who have been playing that long, their playtime has cutback. There's just not much to do for a lot of people right now. So getting some new blood in there isn't a bad idea, but this "issue" may cure itself when the new patch hits and everyone begins playing more often.
Pretty much this.
We went through this same drama on Sargatanas a few months ago, with people's ridiculous expectations of a large causal FC. I got so sick of it I basically just stopped bothering to do stuff with the FC once several people made it clear the efforts to schedule some events, keep FC buffs going, handle recruitment, and maintain the website weren't good enough unless I gave personal attention to everyone. I got blasted in FC chat the other day out of nowhere for not ditching my coil static to help someone else practice turn 5.
It's fine to want that. But looking for that in a large FC like the GAF FCs in a game with a content structure like ARR's is looking for it in the wrong place. Like BadRNG just said, the leaders are there "to grease the wheels and keep the machine running. They're management, not tour guides." People whining for tour guides when the tools are given to them to organize their own tours are nothing but a headache.
There's only a slight problem, which is that Elrina never talks in FC chat (I've seen him talk once in FC chat the past month), so I don't know what "arranging things" you are speaking of, unless you are speaking of the 'arranging things' Elrina does in his own linkshell. Which is, ironically, a clique within the FC.
Tirazel as far as I know doesn't so much organize events as volunteering to help when help is requested in FC chat. This happens when people have free time, and as people are increasingly only logging in to do Coil and cap myth and then logout, then 'free time' is something that doesn't exist for players who would rather do something else outside of the parts of the game they want to roll through for the week. This applies to the leaders/officers as well.
how cheesy
GraveRobberX
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Quit making assumptions
I've never been "handed" gear or carried, I try my best all the f'n time
Also all that huffy/puffy-ness that most of you try to push on me, was due to no one creating times to help others learn, for some of us it's brand new experience and we don't know all the mechanics, the leaders played through 1.0, they could have helped easing us in. When the leaders main concerns are to static with themselves from the get go, not invest a little time into other FC members who have joined and want to learn, you'll get frustrated.
I've never asked to be carried or drop what you are doing and only help me, but when someone has many questions to understand this game and there are people to answer them, why not just answer them or let them know
How come none of the leaders are at fault, yet all this back and forth we are having, all of you remember in great detail at my downfalls, yet the officers are impeccable at being helpful players, which I haven't seen mentioned in the multiple OT threads we had
As for Coil, all I have gotten is random PUG's which became semi-static, which don't last
As I've written last page, I was raid leader for my last group, I was just given the role, then asked to keep the group going, which I did, but sooner or later people give too many issues that even a person like me has a breaking point
You can't constantly be roadblocked of progression, when your trying to move forward, others are just waiting till 2.2 stuff kicks in
Hell I switched from PLD to WAR to help my Coil Group out, just so we get the extra bonus, pumped myth into it, even though I wanted to do BLM next
Also I never said I was always right/innocent in this matter, yes I can be brash, rage o' holic, it's just my nature, that I can get frustrated
You can't just say the things that I have experienced with the leadership in GAF in September 2013, that these problems are still there in March 2014, that shit speaks volume
That's why I brought up all the stuff, I'm not saying all this just cause, I would like the FC to flourish even if I'm not a part of it, but when you read the thread, and you see the same story arcs play out over time, it does become a deja vu status
As Tabris said, why not infuse fresh blood into Officer roles, people who will give a damn, go out of their way and help new people that will be joining you
PS4 release is coming soon, and influx of new players will be joining, will leadership be ready to give a helping hand, or will they talk shit about them on mumble of not knowing stuff
The stuff I know now in March 2014, than I did in August 2013, is a huge margin
There was scarce info at the start, info helped immensely back then, people who knew just a little extra paid dividends for others
Now there is plenty of info that most can just google away and never even have to ask, but sometimes a person might not get an answer for a question the have, then the people that have the title of "Officer" or "Leader" do have a responsibility to help out
tiggerkiddo
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too much Drama, sounds like PM time
Wouldn't expect you to know what that's like. You got yours, don't have time for others
Well yeah, because I do stuff on my own. I have no obligations to anyone.
Seriously, don't you guys have a better means of handling this? This thread becomes kind of difficult to participate in for those of us who aren't a part of the GAF guild. :\
On an unrelated note, we're about to assist a legally blind guildmate of ours. Going into Crystal Tower for the first time. This is going to be exciting. >.<;
Wouldn't expect you to know what that's like. You got yours, don't have time for others
I come from XI, too, and I miss aspects of it that you mention that Ken calls cheesy, but it's kind of foolish to try to apply the same mindset to ARR. ARR is not a game where there are a lot of things of consequence to do with varying size groups. ARR is not a game where there is anything to do for large groups. ARR is not a game where reflexes don't matter. ARR is not a game where old content stays relative once you're at "endgame". All these things disincentivize the kind of event structure and community that linkshells in XI had.
TheDancingWatermelon
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What same story arcs though? Its a large FC composed of many different types of players all wearing the same FC tag. There are casual, there are hardcore, etc. and its pretty rare to see people leave. Every once in awhile we get someone popping up saying they are unhappy with the leadership of the FC, and thats fine they are entitled to their opinions, but dont speak as if the FC is burning down or something.
tiggerkiddo
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Yes, PM's but that doesn't work out so well when people just want to air their issues with others when they really should just PM them
devious.one
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Not gonna sit here and respond to your novels paragraph by paragraph because frankly they make little sense and have no clear direction. But I found this interesting. You sit here and attack Maple and Strawberry and toss out these assumptions (that's what they are) yet the first words uttered from your mouth during your rebuttal to someone else:
That's pretty funny.
He does speak quite a bit in FC chat as well, usually joking about and stuff.
That's pretty nice, though it is Crystal tower which is hellish in its own right lol.
True fact.
In other news, my FC bought the plot of land for a large house! We're just scrounging the money for the permit and we'll have it!
So being legally blind, can they not see certain colors or is everything just blurry? Actual question.
EDIT: City of Amdpor makes me feel itchy...its worse than looking at Korolokka tunnel...
I do think that anyone who really wants to talk about Ultros FC business should use the FC site to do so. It exists for this reason.
They're not colorblind (but I am, hilariously), just legally blind, so everything is blurry for him. They use a magnifying glass to read some text, and people often him through dungeons on Mumble. He's actually one of the better players I've seen, despite being blind. We just finished up pretty easily.
Yeah. It makes it difficult to jump into the conversation when it's about the Ultros FC, but anyone can jump in if it's game talk.
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