A wonderful summary; I agree with quite a bit of it.
I'm going to drop out of this discussion for now, though, as I don't want the details of the endgame to be spoiled. Looking forward to joining in these kinds of threads once I finish!
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A wonderful summary; I agree with quite a bit of it.
I'm going to drop out of this discussion for now, though, as I don't want the details of the endgame to be spoiled. Looking forward to joining in these kinds of threads once I finish!
Gaius was a fool. He could have stopped Nael from casting Meteor himself but chose not to. By the time Nael was defeated, it was cast and events were set in motion. Bahamut was coming anyway.
Gaius was also manipulated on top of all that by the Ascians and tricked into believing he was a) in control and b) had a trump card. He had neither.
In the end, the Garlands are just jealous Eorzeans can cast magic and they can't. So, if they can't cast it, no one can! All there is to it. =)
Gaius was also manipulated on top of all that by the Ascians and tricked into believing he was a) in control and b) had a trump card. He had neither.
In the end, the Garlands are just jealous Eorzeans can cast magic and they can't. So, if they can't cast it, no one can! All there is to it. =)
tiggerkiddo
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should be able to, unless they extend the maintenance longer
pillowtalk
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Don't mistake me for that guy please. Someone actually asked if I was related to him when I first joined.
Hmm...
Except of course that Gaius was gutted by a ragtag band of pugs* who were looking for 100 tomes of philosophy, which by his own argument proves that he doesn't belong anywhere near a position of power in Eorzea.
A good villian usually isn't stupid -- Gaius makes logical arguments, but you have to completely ignore some big externalities to believe he would bring greater happiness to the civilizations he subjugates. There are several references in the story to the sad state of countries which have been subjugated by the empire, and the way conquered populations are conscripted in large numbers to serve in the empire's military. Plus, while Gaius' words are coherent, his desire is clearly more driven by ambition and achievement than by bringing about the greatest possible good, otherwise he would never have been so easily turned into the Ascians' little plaything and killed who knows how many of his own soldiers. No plan B to counter the Ascians, who aren't exactly the most trustworthy seeming dudes, in order to protect everything he'd built up until that point? That's not someone who builds other people up, that's just recklessness.
*yes, I know that technically using pug this way doesn't make sense. Thought it sounded good though.
A good villian usually isn't stupid -- Gaius makes logical arguments, but you have to completely ignore some big externalities to believe he would bring greater happiness to the civilizations he subjugates. There are several references in the story to the sad state of countries which have been subjugated by the empire, and the way conquered populations are conscripted in large numbers to serve in the empire's military. Plus, while Gaius' words are coherent, his desire is clearly more driven by ambition and achievement than by bringing about the greatest possible good, otherwise he would never have been so easily turned into the Ascians' little plaything and killed who knows how many of his own soldiers. No plan B to counter the Ascians, who aren't exactly the most trustworthy seeming dudes, in order to protect everything he'd built up until that point? That's not someone who builds other people up, that's just recklessness.
*yes, I know that technically using pug this way doesn't make sense. Thought it sounded good though.
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tiggerkiddo
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I wonder where they moved the level 30 gathering points to now...
minimumhippo
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I wonder how much they increased philo tome rate in AK and if anyone will even bother running CM/Prae anymore.
minimumhippo
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I hope so, otherwise it might be a long, long wait to get in CM or Prae groups for people who have yet to finish the story.
And yet the improved experience would probably make it worth the wait.
I kind of don't like WP because of how complicated some people make the last boss.
minimumhippo
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I'll agree with that. Come to think of it, if less speedrunners use duty finder for CM and Prae I would be more likely to run it for tomes. Hmmm
Unknown Soldier
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I agree with this. Gaius believed he was in control of events but in reality he was being manipulated by forces more sinister than he could imagine. He was undone by his flaws, and so could not achieve his idealistic goals. At the end all he could have was regret for what he had failed to do. I regard Gaius as a tragic figure, he does both good and evil things for an ideal which is in and of itself fundamentally good. Some of his methods are unpleasant but that goes for all famous conquerors or would-be conquerors such as Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, and Genghis Khan.
The Garleans can use magic, I'm not sure why you think they can't. They can't use The Echo however, possibly because of the Third Eye they are all born with that Cid briefly shows off.
The Garleans can use magic, I'm not sure why you think they can't. They can't use The Echo however, possibly because of the Third Eye they are all born with that Cid briefly shows off.
IMO it works either way; the Yamato did it to the various minorities of Japan and were in turn afraid of having it done to them by the British.
Which makes it a solid metaphor for where the Eorzeans are coming from when they think they're "pacifying" the various "beastmen" but "nobly resisting" the Empire.
(The narrative theme also works for American players with their own history as a colonized-colonizer)
Unknown Soldier
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The trick where you could Raise someone without Weakness has been fixed. Sigh.
I don't think anyone expected them raising the cap. It might be reset due to the server reboot, but we won't find out until we get in.
Native Garlean's have never had the talent. So, they turned to technology. Hence, Magitek. Magic users are probably those who were enlisted from other lands they took over.
Unknown Soldier
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Interesting, I didn't know that. So it's like Bevelle vs. Zanarkand in the historical war before the events of FFX in that sense.
Zomba13
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Good. So many times I've been raised and during the raise animation a mob puts out an AoE that hits me. You need to be psychic sometimes to get up in a battle. Everything is clear when you accept the raise and then BOOM, down again by the time you get up.
Amon-Lau
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This, so many wasted raises because of this... D:
GraveRobberX
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You have like a 5 sec window during Titan HM
Holy Shit have I seen people accept raise at the wrong time
You know you've had a bad day, when you are going through raise animation and Titan puts Landslide right over you lol
Dat Insta-Defeat
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Correct my if I am wrong, but weren't the Primals "unlocked" after the first invasion attempt when the massive attack ship crashed into Mor Dhona? Not that I disagree that Gaius was right, but concerns about the primals were not originally in their grand plan, and they just wanted to take over more land.
This may also be a dropped plot point from 1.0, but also aren't the primals not natively bad, but the garlean's were brainwashing people into believing that since they fear their power? Same reason why the Emperor was willing to just drop a moon on that area and be done with it. Like Gaius mentioned, the twelve may just be "primals" of the playable races. Another plot point that may have been dropped that just came up at the end of the path companion's storyline.
But yeah, I agree with Gaius's words, even if I know the implications of imperial rule. The current leaders and way of rule along the city states is just as bad or worse. The players don't really see it like that since we don't really exist as citizens and have an elevated status.
This may also be a dropped plot point from 1.0, but also aren't the primals not natively bad, but the garlean's were brainwashing people into believing that since they fear their power? Same reason why the Emperor was willing to just drop a moon on that area and be done with it. Like Gaius mentioned, the twelve may just be "primals" of the playable races. Another plot point that may have been dropped that just came up at the end of the path companion's storyline.
But yeah, I agree with Gaius's words, even if I know the implications of imperial rule. The current leaders and way of rule along the city states is just as bad or worse. The players don't really see it like that since we don't really exist as citizens and have an elevated status.
Sounds like easy material for a trollface comic.
Yeah, there really isn't that much safe time to raise during titan's last phase. Maybe during the gaol is best, but you have to make sure you're not going to get caught in the landslide. Which I learned the hard way by using healer limit break 3 while only the tank and I remained standing... and the entire party got knocked off the arena. Was good comedy, at least.
Anybody else get bored with this game. I love it I do. Play with supersampling and all plus it beautiful but........ damn man after 40 or so I can rarely pick it up anymore. And grinding dungeons group or no group is no fun to me. Strategy is severely lacking in this game if you ask me.
Unknown Soldier
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I don't think anybody cares about the difficulty of story dungeons and post-story dungeons you are farming for gear. The current endgame raid is untouched.
I guess you're right. I was mainly thinking about MIN/BTN.
But still, yeah. Why should level those two be so grindy?
It's good that it's better now.
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