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Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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Unknown Soldier
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Gromph said:Yeah
Insert joke about drama on the server named for a place in FFVII here. Is everyone on that server named xxSephirothxx? :3
Jinko said:
I see a distinct lack of catgirls in those shots.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Tera is using the Unreal Engine 3 right? Looks nice. Why doesn't SE just license that or CryEngine? Does it benefit them more in the long run to waste so much time and energy to create that Crystal Tools stuff?
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Rentahamster said:
It's called sunk costs. They already invested probably tens of millions to develop Crystal Tools in-house, to license a middleware engine after all that money would be madness. Anyways, FFXIII and XIV look fabulous, it's not a case of working hard to produce utter shit. A lot of the JP devs tried and failed to produce a decent next-gen engine for in-house use this gen, and the only decent ones I can think of are Capcom's MT Framework and Squenix's Crystal Tools.
Unreal Engine 3 gives every game that identical plastic-shaders look and the way it progressively streams textures from disk is really horrendous and always results in that infamous texture pop-in as the level loads which looks so bad. I'm not a big fan of UE3, the only people who can make a UE3 game look really good are Epic themselves.
Aion used CryEngine 1 and looked fabulous for it's time. I don't see any devs in a rush to license CryEngine 2 and 3, probably because UE3 is much easier to work with and includes frameworks for graphics, sound, AI, and physics all in one solution. Which is also the problem with UE3, because it includes so much already and is so widely licensed, many developers make lazy games with it that all look the same and play much worse than Epic's own titles.
The real crime against humanity is the Gamebryo engine, which Rift uses. That engine needs to DIAF.
Rentahamster
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Just killed Morbol (Rank 65 Marlboro mob), but that wasn't hard enough, so we went to kill Creeping Ivy (Rank 75 mob).
Sent that thing straight to hell. Rank 50 Thaumaturge skills sure came in handy when tanking it.
Sent that thing straight to hell. Rank 50 Thaumaturge skills sure came in handy when tanking it.
Unknown Soldier
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Jinko said:You can have this instead.
Rentahamster said:
I guess you guys don't need me for anything after all. So be it. ; ;
Rentahamster
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lol ya we do, the whole time we were saying, gee I hope Kawaii comes online this would be a whole lot easier if she were here.Unknown Soldier said:
(I left out the part in my story where we party wiped 5 times before even killing Creeping Ivy once).
After we got the battle plan down, we killed 2 more without (much) incident.
Unknown Soldier
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Coldsnap said:
So you'll be quitting FFXIV soon? What do you think gladiator and marauder are supposed to be? :3
Emenis said:
Rentahamster said:
I <3 you guys too but I'm not sure when I'll be back. It will depend a lot on some RL things I'm dealing with which cannot wait any longer. Nothing life-or-death important but I've been putting off things in my life for about 6 months because of this game, and the server shutdown-enforced downtime has given me an opportunity to resolve a few things.
What time you guys doing static today ?
Edit:- nevermind posted on other forum about it, don't look like its guna work out to well for me.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/4683-Duplicated-Leves
Say good buy to your current strategy, always someone willing to shit on someones parade.
There is an interesting idea here hopefully SE take notice of it.
Edit:- nevermind posted on other forum about it, don't look like its guna work out to well for me.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/4683-Duplicated-Leves
Say good buy to your current strategy, always someone willing to shit on someones parade.
There is an interesting idea here hopefully SE take notice of it.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Cool. After killing the Marlboros, I did some NMs. Tanked Dodore as a THM, it was pretty cool.Unknown Soldier said:
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Oh, I was actually referring to a battle that we did after the first one. The first one was a bit of a crapshoot because of no prep time and I had to quickly spec out of MRD and into THM, so I had only one "reassign" worth of points to allocate.Coldsnap said:
We would have been okay, but what did me in was the multiple Shadowsears that got cast one me at one time. Not much you can do about that, although if I had an optimal stat layout and few different pieces of gear, I probably would have survived it.
Let me save unique stat and skillset profiles per class, SE. Seriously, the armory system is supposed to promote playing multiple jobs, but the stupid stat reassignment and skill reassignment bullshit is really making the whole process a pain in the ass.
Unknown Soldier
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Get better Internet. I'm running the patcher just so I keep my version updated, and it's flying along. Oh, and now it's done. :3
Rentahamster said:
If the 2nd poll was anything to go by, we should be getting just that.
The bonus point allotment system was intended to be a means by which players could customize their character's individuality. The free distribution of attribute points has given rise to certain problems, however, such as compatibility issues with the Armoury system, and the lowered effectiveness of the attributes themselves. In particular, this lowered effectiveness of attributes also extends its influence to items, and is therefore something that we feel must be rectified. To do so, we are currently looking into the following two options:
1. Removal of the bonus point system, and the addition of automatic allotment of attribute points based on class.
2. Removal of physical levels, and the addition of class-specific allotment of attribute points for each class based on rank.
8. Would you prefer option 1, option 2, or the current system?
To be honest, I'm genuinely surprised by the response to Question 8, as are Matsui and Gondai on the battle team. We certainly didn't think that over 50% of players would be for doing away with physical levels. This would entail some pretty big changes tied in with enhancing class uniqueness. But we're coming to realize now that most of you seem to be saying you're fine with radical changes as long as they make the game more fun. We'll definitely refer to this data when coming up with new specs, and will be implementing them when we can!
Would be even better if they allow us to have 2 specs per class similar to WoW, ie MRD with a tanking and DD spec.
IonicSnake
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I like option 2.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Bayohne, a community rep on the official forums, just posted this wonderful piece of information from battle lead, Akihiko Matsui:
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Jinko said:
I have to agree with Jinko on this one. I'll trade the interaction of spamming regular attack for timing abilities, magic, and weapon skills instead. I also miss the social element of chatting during combat. Things like Vent/TS/Mumble get annoying because you always have people competing to say things.
I wonder if the linking information has to do with some upcoming mob changes (addition of beastmen, peaceful era of Eorzea coming to an end, etc.). I can't think of any mobs outside of leves besides NMs that link.
Unknown Soldier
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If Squenix is stupid, they'll step back to FFXI. That's a surefire way to end this game's lifetime right away. Bringing back auto-attack is fine, they had better just find something really amazing for players to do in between auto-attacks.
Unknown Soldier
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Quests? High-rank PvE content? Where? Gimme gimme!
No time for that now, got to watch The World God Only Knows so I'll be ready for season 2 airing in just a week and a half!
No time for that now, got to watch The World God Only Knows so I'll be ready for season 2 airing in just a week and a half!
Unknown Soldier said:
Seriously, even I'm reaching my breaking point with this game. Before we started doing leves today I didn't feel like doing anything and was gonna log off for the day but instead we did leves for a couple hours and I at least enjoyed that.
I've noticed a lot of people are no longer playing since servers went back up. Well, at least people I knew.
I'm just glad we still have at least a small group that I love playing with. If it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't bother playing. The game definitely has potential..
Emenis said:
Nice read, also just saw Jinko's post showing the UI designer's comments. Hopefully they also add at least 10-15 side quests with each update as well.
Emenis said:
Well to be fair, there still isnt that much to do. Sure, fighting monsters and partying is much better...but when the story missions are so far spread out/dont really have much in the way of boss fights or challenging situations, there really isnt much to progress towards. If you're going to party up, you want to either get exp, explore a dungeon and find items/complete quests, bring down a boss, defend an area, or just progress the story.
That and its a busy time of year for anyone that has any kind of classes to attend.
EDIT: Wow i'm really late on the news.
The objective here is not to lower the battle difficulty. The main objective here, when thinking about battles rich in strategy, pace, and exhilaration, is instead of having to time regular attacks, we will be preparing situations that require proper timing of abilities, magic, and weapon skills. Following this, weaker enemies are a different story, but we will make sure its balanced so you cant win a fight just by using auto-attack.
Cant say I was a fan of auto attack back in the day, but if its faster than XI, allows for more strategic and tension packed battles, and we somehow end up with better looking battle animations and effects, then i'm game. Also hopefully i'll have something to record and put up on my XIV channel. Never expected the game to have been out this long and still have only 1 video up
Either way, 1.17 seems like it might go up sometime next week then?
staticneuron
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Emenis said:
I wish I could join you guys but because of the timing I have only been crafting all this time. I have yet to get back to ranking up my magic classes, who happen to still be around 24. Hopefully I can do something about that this weekend.
Raid instances ... sounds like that could be fun.
At the moment I'm really enjoying this game, I think that long break I had did the world of good.
Agree with Dega though between leves the game has almost nothing to do, in those cases its best to just log off and do something else.
At the moment I'm really enjoying this game, I think that long break I had did the world of good.
Agree with Dega though between leves the game has almost nothing to do, in those cases its best to just log off and do something else.
Jinko said:
Really liked this section:
And I saw that you recently did a survey, and the survey was rather radical, I think, in that it asked players how fundamental the changes they'd like to see to the game are. I mean, how far are you prepared to go to modify the game?
NY: Yeah. It's really hard to put a number on it, but I guess you can look at it in separate areas.
For example, like the Guildleve system. We liked the Guildleve system, in that it provides a simple quest for someone who, say they have 30 minutes to play a game. They come in, they go to that counter, they know the quests are going to be waiting for them, they get the quests, they do them, and they're done.
So, that, really you wouldn't have to have a fundamental change to that. I mean, you could do some adjustments to it to make it better for the players, but that you wouldn't have to destroy the whole foundation.
Whereas the battle system on the other hand, I personally believe that the battle should be something where you get with friends, you talk over how you're going to fight this battle, doing all the tactics and the strategies. And right now, this really can't be done in the battle system that currently exists.
So, for this one, I'm saying that yeah, maybe, a 70 percent change might be necessary to get it to something that I envision as a cool battle system.
But even saying that, that's not to say that -- for example -- the Guildleve system doesn't need to have fixes as well. While it's really good for people that want to come in, play solo, and just get out in 30 minutes, that Guildleves system is perfect. But what about for people that want to learn a little more about the world? That would take, maybe, providing quests from the NPCs -- more of these types of quests where you can talk with these NPCs, learn about their lives, learn about the world. Things where you have to do a little more exploring.
And then on top of that, people that -- okay, say you have a lot of time on the weekends, so you want to get with a party and you want something a little more challenging than what the simple Guildleves offer. So, we want to keep the good things. Things that are working right now, we want to keep them. But then things that, yes, need that big change, we want to go in and drastically change those.
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Emenis said:
It's too bad you guys do your small group so early in the day and I'm always still at work. You're right, the only reason I was still playing was because of the people I made friends with. Take that away, and I have no reason to play at all.
Unknown Soldier
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Kandinsky said:
Coming Soon(tm)
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Come online tomorrow (noonish?). We're saving leves for then.Unknown Soldier said:
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