Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Margalis said:
Everything is auto-distributed now for the sake of balancing but you will be able to redistribute attribute points in a later patch.
Maxrpg said:
Exactly. You can't kill things 8+ above yourself solo now because it wasn't your 'damage' that was nerfed, your stats mean more, and so do the stats of mobs including there defense. Now each new level means a whole lot more, you don't get marginally stronger, you get noticiably stronger, mobs that might have given you trouble at lvl 19, give you less trouble at lvl 20. It scales so much better then it did before. The EXP parameters have changed to accomodate this scaling so you also aren't getting nerfed EXP. People just need a new mind set on what can and cannot be done solo.
The new scaling also makes partying so much more satisfying. Solo as a Lancer I could hardly kill a duo of crabs 1 level under me both, but in my own duo I could take out the NM crab! Also that reminds me, mobs also don't hit you like a truck anymore (at least when you are closer to level match up), the damage is much more manageable and you won't die immediately from a link unless you grab like 10+ (or aggro a mob that is 20+ levels above you lol) so if you get aggro you can take a sec and strategize how you want to survive the encounter, but realize this... curing is severly nerfed to compensate for this, at least when you do cures or second wind on a class that is not the original one. And yeah dated equipment needs to be replaced. It reminds me of gear that is ultra high level that is level synced down in FFXI. You can wear it, it will give you marginal stats but it won't make you do your best job.
Oh also for those complaining about feeling weak, materia gives a crap load of stats. We are in a whole new ball game, everything that we geared for has been crapped on over night, crafters need to learn new recipes, combat classes need all new gear and better understanding of their weaknesses and find ways to combat them, hell even disciple of the land got a shake up in just trying to find out where all the stuff is supposed to be at since that too got overhauled.
Munba
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Entered in the low-lv dungeon and it's pretty nice (dead trees and abandoned wood stuff on the first floor).. i like the new battle theme there (very FFT). The battles are rather fast and very smooth now.
Btw, like renta, the first time on chocobo (the longest awaited in this game) was rather emotional.. :0
Btw, like renta, the first time on chocobo (the longest awaited in this game) was rather emotional.. :0
Rentahamster
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Welcome aboard, dude. It's nice that alts are free to make so that you can check out other servers to see what it's like.lol51 said:
grrr, ridiculous
at least 4 market ward crashes yesterday and 3, so far, today
impossible to find/buy any materials and next to impossible to sell anything
can't decide if it's incompetence or just the game being popular
good way to remind people of the game's status 1 year ago
at least 4 market ward crashes yesterday and 3, so far, today
impossible to find/buy any materials and next to impossible to sell anything
can't decide if it's incompetence or just the game being popular
good way to remind people of the game's status 1 year ago
Riposte
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jiggle said:grrr, ridiculous
at least 4 market ward crashes yesterday and 3, so far, today
impossible to find/buy any materials and next to impossible to sell anything
can't decide if it's incompetence or just the game being popular
good way to remind people of the game's status 1 year ago
The problem is that people only use one city to sell things I think.
TAJ said:
There is no nerf !!
Did you not read what Allard said, its simple to understand.
Before people could fight stuff +10 levels higher now they have to fight equal to or slightly below as monsters are a lot more even matched, its just something people will have to get used to.
@ Jiggle, if this is not a kick in the ass for them to get rid of this shitty market system I duno what is, we can only hope they will mention an proper AH in the next few months.
Dont forget:
[dev1181] Retainer bazaars in market areas are now subject to a time limit.
Maximum duration: 7 days (168 hours, Earth time)
* Those leasing stands are exempt from the above time limit.
Updating bazaar information resets your duration to 7 days (168 hours, Earth time).
Retainers who have exceeded the time limit will automatically return home.
[dev1181] Retainer bazaars in market areas are now subject to a time limit.
Maximum duration: 7 days (168 hours, Earth time)
* Those leasing stands are exempt from the above time limit.
Updating bazaar information resets your duration to 7 days (168 hours, Earth time).
Retainers who have exceeded the time limit will automatically return home.
Ken said:
Download the patch you are currently trying to download as torrents and move download into C:\Users\<USERNAME>\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV\downloads\ffxiv
Get the big filesize ones... ignore rest
http://extratorrent.com/search/?search=FFXIV+Update+&new=1&x=0&y=0
WWWow!
Ken said:
Yes. Just be sure you are copy and pasting correctly. For example, if you are already patching there should be a directory called 48eca647 - the torrent downloads a directory of that same name. Copy and paste it so it is "48eca647\patch" and not "48eca647\48eca647\patch".
Jinko said:
i can accept that and have no problem with the whole level difference thing
it makes more sense now anyway
but on the other hand
the grind that comes with this is worse now, for soloing
i finally got around to doing some leves
comparing the before and after
i now need 2x as long on a leve to get the same amount of sp i was getting before
and i can't even complete a behest solo now
i know that it's faster in party now and materia will make a difference
but as for right now, soloing leve sucks
Jinko said:
One year ago, i would've point and laugh had someone told me AH will still be MIA after a full year XD
Metalmurphy
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lol51 said:
Use D3DOverride and that windows script file to get borderless window/fullscreen.
Unknown Soldier
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Metalmurphy said:
Windower XIV still works as well.
Yeah i tried 2 different windowers and they both have really bad tearing. I just disabled ALT using TweakKey and the windows key using the built in keyboard switch. No real problems and can surf with steam overlay.Metalmurphy said:
Restart updater and it should find the file you just replaced and assumes it downloaded it already.Londa said:
My friend is running into problems patching the game. She got the October 4th patch through the torrent link, but her FFXIV folder in My Games doesn't have a download folder? Also, whenever she tries to start the game up, which should include the updater, it crashes. Any way to get around these problems?
Googling seems to say that ATI Mobility cards don't work well with FF XIV, at least without driver updates. Hmm.
Googling seems to say that ATI Mobility cards don't work well with FF XIV, at least without driver updates. Hmm.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Jinko said:
I don't even know what people mean by "dated" gear. I can't find a reference to it online except this page.
At first I thought you meant gear way below your rank, but then I saw the thing about some rank 48 stuff being "dated".
And everything you're saying makes me less interested. Thank you.
Whogie
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Equipment is now literally listed as dated.
Holy ssss I just discovered FFXIVAH.com.
Are those median prices really what people sell for? This Market Ward could actually turn out to be bearable with this.
And they added NPC vendors to guilds, so now I have recent and appropriate LNC gear!!
Holy ssss I just discovered FFXIVAH.com.
Are those median prices really what people sell for? This Market Ward could actually turn out to be bearable with this.
And they added NPC vendors to guilds, so now I have recent and appropriate LNC gear!!
TAJ said:I don't even know what people mean by "dated" gear. I can't find a reference to it online except this page.
At first I thought you meant gear way below your rank, but then I saw the thing about some rank 48 stuff being "dated".
And everything you're saying makes me less interested. Thank you.
Dated Gear is dated because better items have replaced them or they used old crafting formulas that used items that were either removed from the game (simplifying crafting formulas a little) or will be added back to the game later for stronger stuff.
For instance, say an iron scutum (large shield) was level 45 pre 1.19. Now its been moved to level 25, and while its got lower stats than before, two more metal grades (steel and cobalt) have been added with materia slots and better stats for level 30 and up. The new versions/items added are normal now, and the old shield is called Dated in the inventory or shop or wherever. Also some have an actual required level or class rather than just optimal or favored.
*These arent the exact levels now, just using it as an example.
EDIT: Actually, just check this -
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...tch-1.19-Notes?p=361387&viewfull=1#post361387
AlphaDragoon
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Man, shit got real in this patch. The market ward crashing is annoying, but everything else is sweet.
Pugilists got a pretty huge buff, they can do Jarring Strike/Haymaker from a Miss now, as they removed Evade completely. That + enemies actually miss now = Pugs doing a shitload of damage.
Counters are so good now I threw them on my Gladiator and wreck shop. With Jarring Strike II/Haymaker II and Seasoned Veteran, I actually do more damage on counters than I do with Phalanx II.
If anyone's on Trabia, hit me up if you want to play. My character is Renault Andreas.
Pugilists got a pretty huge buff, they can do Jarring Strike/Haymaker from a Miss now, as they removed Evade completely. That + enemies actually miss now = Pugs doing a shitload of damage.
Counters are so good now I threw them on my Gladiator and wreck shop. With Jarring Strike II/Haymaker II and Seasoned Veteran, I actually do more damage on counters than I do with Phalanx II.
If anyone's on Trabia, hit me up if you want to play. My character is Renault Andreas.
IonicSnake
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I was looking at my bird trying to figure out a name, then it hit me with that armor and that huge chest. You have summoned Kratos.
Whogie
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I'm only 23, so I have a little time before my bird.
I'm going to name it after my FFXI bird. Even though she was female, "Ember" seems unisex.
Just noticed that accessories will be NPC repairable in 1.20. That's quite a relief.
Battles seem fast again after ditching my dated junk.
I'm going to name it after my FFXI bird. Even though she was female, "Ember" seems unisex.
Just noticed that accessories will be NPC repairable in 1.20. That's quite a relief.
Battles seem fast again after ditching my dated junk.
Rentahamster
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I dunno if anyone's taken the time to research this yet, but if you have,
What are the cheapest high rank gear you can craft to use for materia farming?
What are the cheapest high rank gear you can craft to use for materia farming?
Hm my friend was trying to install in a laptop with a 5730 but trying to start the game gives a "stopped working" error. Googling around it seems like SE doesn't support ATI mobility so people have been suggesting things like using driver sweepers, uninstalling and reinstalling new drivers. That method seems to have varying success though.Ravidrath said:
For those crying nerf for the lower levels, heres something to consider. Equipment over your level have their attributes *heavily* lowered.
You'll notice there are 2 sections to the attributes of a weapon/armor. The Defence/Offence stats of an Armor/weapon and the bonus stats it grants (like +accuracy, crit power etc).
As I tried a leve for the first time since 1.19 on my level 22 pug, I noticed my Level 35 weapon was only doing 3-5 damage on auto attacks, and 10-20 on weapon skills. So I looked at my weapon and noticed my Offence stats.
It was D59(-53). Meaning I was fighting with a D6 weapon. The Bonus stats my weapon had were also greyed out, meaning they weren't being applied anymore at all as opposed to being scaled down.
It was the same thing I noticed across my Armor, defense was lowered and no bonus stats were being applied.
I tried to make what was before patch a level 23 weapon with the new recipie but it ended up as a level 16 weapon. Still it had D23 instead, and I started doing considerably more damage compared to my level 35 weapon. Since my rings don't do squat anymore (I used various attribute rings), i think I'll have to make myself some low level accuracy rings.
tldr: Equipping armor over optimal rank/not favored is not worth it anymore as it grants nearly no stats, use appropriate gear for level and class.
You'll notice there are 2 sections to the attributes of a weapon/armor. The Defence/Offence stats of an Armor/weapon and the bonus stats it grants (like +accuracy, crit power etc).
As I tried a leve for the first time since 1.19 on my level 22 pug, I noticed my Level 35 weapon was only doing 3-5 damage on auto attacks, and 10-20 on weapon skills. So I looked at my weapon and noticed my Offence stats.
It was D59(-53). Meaning I was fighting with a D6 weapon. The Bonus stats my weapon had were also greyed out, meaning they weren't being applied anymore at all as opposed to being scaled down.
It was the same thing I noticed across my Armor, defense was lowered and no bonus stats were being applied.
I tried to make what was before patch a level 23 weapon with the new recipie but it ended up as a level 16 weapon. Still it had D23 instead, and I started doing considerably more damage compared to my level 35 weapon. Since my rings don't do squat anymore (I used various attribute rings), i think I'll have to make myself some low level accuracy rings.
tldr: Equipping armor over optimal rank/not favored is not worth it anymore as it grants nearly no stats, use appropriate gear for level and class.
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