Unknown Soldier
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After seeing 2.0 in motion it's really hard to go back and play the current versionWhat have you done, Yoshida...
What is combat like in 2.0?
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What is combat like in 2.0?
Is it possible to experience the story up until the current point? Or has each patch had completely different story quest? I just want to experience the story from the start up until this current umbral era or whatever it is if possible.
Also, thinking of going Bard.
You have the main story until 2.0 i think.
Future's Perfect
Umbral Era events are random and completed with GC Quests.
One more thing to ask before I pull the trigger. Has the battle system been drastically improved? If there was one thing I couldn't stand about this game it was the battle lag. You'd hit an ability and about 4-5 seconds later the ability would fire.
Is the battle system more fast paced now? I thought it could use a faster style of combat.
Is the battle system more fast paced now? I thought it could use a faster style of combat.
IonicSnake
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Right now? Nope. Still feels REALLY laggy.
LOL it always makes me laugh how Allards posts are a wall of text XD, I thought I was bad.
It's not going to change that drastically, there won't be animation lock anymore, lag will be less of an issue, but it will still be Auto Attack and fairly slow paced as far as MMO combat goes.
It's not going to change that drastically, there won't be animation lock anymore, lag will be less of an issue, but it will still be Auto Attack and fairly slow paced as far as MMO combat goes.
Trying to reactivate this game is a mess. They really need to fix their website up or people will quit before they start playing. So there's the activation cost plus there's a cost for each individual character you want to play?
Edit: Does legacy tie to a character or account? I'm just really not sure what options to pick in account management to get legacy status up and running.
Edit: Does legacy tie to a character or account? I'm just really not sure what options to pick in account management to get legacy status up and running.
So I've ordered 2 FFXIV copies for both me and my gf since I haven't played since Open Beta just before release and I'm curious as to how much it's changed since then. I figured if I like it, I may sub after the first 30 days or I'll wait til 2.0 is out before coming back yet again to see what that's like.
So Anyone got any handy tips (I should be getting it tomorrow from amazon, if not then Monday hopefully)? Also is there better direction now? I remember before, getting off a boat after fighting some jellyfish or something and having no idea where to go, I ended up running around the city multiple times trying to figure out where I was supposed to go next so is there better direction, at least near the beginning now?
So Anyone got any handy tips (I should be getting it tomorrow from amazon, if not then Monday hopefully)? Also is there better direction now? I remember before, getting off a boat after fighting some jellyfish or something and having no idea where to go, I ended up running around the city multiple times trying to figure out where I was supposed to go next so is there better direction, at least near the beginning now?
thanks, that pretty much answers all of my confusion.
anyone know if we're gonna be able to server transfer closer to launch? i want to join the GAF linkshell but i don't really want to lose my character.
Could anyone explain me the armor/gear system. I could wear lvl 41 gear, but I would get a penalty for wearing that gear, right? What if even with the penalty it would have higher defence/atk and I could get the weapon/armor for really cheap, would it be worth buying and using? Or am I missing something?
How are you checking for Legacy status?
WHen I signed up, I got Legacy status in 2 days but it took them 6 days to send me the email. If you havent already, check for the Legacy icon on the character select screen or on the SE ID account screen. If its still not there, contact SE. They might say something like "youll get Legacy status towards the end of the 90 days" but question that too in order to be sure.
All you have to do is pay them for 90 days. Once you get to the payment screen, select the 90 day option, and the system does the rest of the work. Itll factor in any and every cost. I think the total is roughly 27 bucks.
demosthenes
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Did this 3 days ago, this is true.
This is being changed in 2.0, you will pay one payment for 8 characters across all servers.
But yes activation is a mess.
Righteo. Currently on grugnir, but I hear the GAF LS is on a different server. My grugnir character is about level 30 in 1 or 2 professions so I'm not yet prepared to delete.....but I want to roll with the GAF folks.
Edit: How long does it take to level a class from 1-30? Because my current character is a level 30 lancer, 20 archer and 15 thaumaturge with level 10 in pretty much the rest of the DoW/DoM classes. Just want to get an estimate of how long it would take if I reroll.
Edit: How long does it take to level a class from 1-30? Because my current character is a level 30 lancer, 20 archer and 15 thaumaturge with level 10 in pretty much the rest of the DoW/DoM classes. Just want to get an estimate of how long it would take if I reroll.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Do the majority of people still spam Guildleves for experience points on their battle classes? That was one my least favorite ways to level and one of the things I really disliked about the game.
I really miss that party experience from FFXI. I am leveling Pugilist now so I can unlock Black Mage and my wife is leveling her Conjurer so she can unlock Bard. We did a small grind session on some groups of mobs and experience points chaining seems to work pretty good but I imagine it would be much better in a larger party. I have seen a few shouts for experience points parties but they have been few and far between (and usually outside of any level ranges I need) and player search doesn't turn up many results for those seeking invites. The fields seem empty but there are a good amount of people on the server. Is there usually more activity on the weekend? How common are instance, dungeon, and experience party runs on your server?
I forgot how much I love crafting in this game. Soooo good.
Hamlet defense sounds interesting too but not sure many people are doing it.
I put together a quick new content mini-guide to help those that have been away from the game for a while like me. Here is a list of content additions that I found while reviewing notes for patch 1.17 to patch 1.22:
I miss anything?
I really miss that party experience from FFXI. I am leveling Pugilist now so I can unlock Black Mage and my wife is leveling her Conjurer so she can unlock Bard. We did a small grind session on some groups of mobs and experience points chaining seems to work pretty good but I imagine it would be much better in a larger party. I have seen a few shouts for experience points parties but they have been few and far between (and usually outside of any level ranges I need) and player search doesn't turn up many results for those seeking invites. The fields seem empty but there are a good amount of people on the server. Is there usually more activity on the weekend? How common are instance, dungeon, and experience party runs on your server?
I forgot how much I love crafting in this game. Soooo good.
Hamlet defense sounds interesting too but not sure many people are doing it.
I put together a quick new content mini-guide to help those that have been away from the game for a while like me. Here is a list of content additions that I found while reviewing notes for patch 1.17 to patch 1.22:
I miss anything?
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Check the item once you equip it. When I equipped gear that was pretty far out of the optimum level I didn't receive any of the bonuses (they were grayed out) and stat gains were nearly 80-90% lower than the listed specs.
I am really impressed with how much they have fixed in this game. The gear system used to be completely broken (equip robe at level 30, use it for both crafting and fighting, use it until level 50 - lol). It seems to work pretty good now.
Gear can have either a "required" level or "optimum" level. Required means you have to be that level or higher to equip the gear. Optimum level means you can equip the gear at any time but will receive almost none of the benefits of the armor unless you are very close in level range to the optimum level. Most gear seems to have "required" levels now.
RPGCrazied
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Really can't wait for 2.0. Right now, the content seems really lacking. Like after you do your 8 levequests all you get to do is fight random monsters. Gets boring. The graphics are pretty, and the cutscenes lovely(needs to be more of them!), and dat music! I'll stick around until 2.0 comes out and give it a more serious go, right now I'm having trouble playing.
I'll stick around until 2.0 comes out and give it a more serious go, right now I'm having trouble playing.So if I'm reading this right, I just got the game a few days ago and registered for 30 days and stuff but I'm in the free trial period. I can just go and sign up for 90 days and I'll have the legacy thing?
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I changed it just now, I should be good right?
If you just got the game a few days ago, it sounds like you registered after the 5/31 cutoff and doesnt sound like you can get Legacy now.
Relaxed Muscle
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*looks at Gae Bolg stats*
HOOOOLY SHIIIIEEETT!! I want one, need to go back and play!!
*looks at requirements to get a Relic Weapon*
HOOOOLY SHIIIIEEETT!! I want one, need to go back and play!!
*looks at requirements to get a Relic Weapon*
New interview over at 4gamer.com (Japanese site) fairly long interview at that, maybe a bit shorter then the gamewatch one but that was a behemoth. Reinheart is working on making a translation for it but he gave us some sneak peaks of the content. Looks like content finder will work similar to WoW and Rift Dungeon finders but with a lot more options besides just dungeons. Its focus is on casual partying and will likely not be the preferred choice for hard mode dungeons and events but it will be there for those groups that want to do events but they are missing 1-2 people to fill out a slot or for a person who can't/doesn't want to go to the trouble to get a party started to just flag themselves for the event and join another existing group in another world.
Having said that though you need to unlock/visited the instance or be flagged to participate in order to use content finder for that event. You can't 'just' sit in a city and wait for a group, you need to have actually traveled to and found the location in order to do the dungeon etc. Also one of the content pieces he wants to add is a lot of collect a thon like events. For instance a monster book/bestiary he is thinking about adding to the game so that as you fight mobs you gain knowledge about them you can go back and look at info and history on them later.
Also it sounds like Yoshida was a VERY hardcore PvP player in Dark Age of Camelot, talks about how he used to go on during his lunch break and do large scale battle against foreign guilds and also talks about how your consumables tipped the scale who could win in the end. He is hoping (in this game) that PvP alone is going to keep Alchemy and Culinary skills useful for end game capacity. He also wants to confirm to players that PvP will only be 15% of the new games content and that like was said before, if you don't want to PvP you won't need to participate.
He also mentioned that the new crafting recipe book that players will get in 2.0 will have info on recipes pre-loaded into the UI allowing dropped items to tell you in their tool tip what can be crafted from it if anything so you know if you want to sell or drop the item when out adventuring.
Having said that though you need to unlock/visited the instance or be flagged to participate in order to use content finder for that event. You can't 'just' sit in a city and wait for a group, you need to have actually traveled to and found the location in order to do the dungeon etc. Also one of the content pieces he wants to add is a lot of collect a thon like events. For instance a monster book/bestiary he is thinking about adding to the game so that as you fight mobs you gain knowledge about them you can go back and look at info and history on them later.
Also it sounds like Yoshida was a VERY hardcore PvP player in Dark Age of Camelot, talks about how he used to go on during his lunch break and do large scale battle against foreign guilds and also talks about how your consumables tipped the scale who could win in the end. He is hoping (in this game) that PvP alone is going to keep Alchemy and Culinary skills useful for end game capacity. He also wants to confirm to players that PvP will only be 15% of the new games content and that like was said before, if you don't want to PvP you won't need to participate.
He also mentioned that the new crafting recipe book that players will get in 2.0 will have info on recipes pre-loaded into the UI allowing dropped items to tell you in their tool tip what can be crafted from it if anything so you know if you want to sell or drop the item when out adventuring.
notworksafe
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Does being in the Alpha and Beta count? I've got a few friends that are wanting to get in but only played Beta (but it's still on their accounts).
Think its only for the people who purchased the game and went through the 'trial' phase of the game. When you register the game you get a 30 day free trial which is why the original cut off date was May 31st. I think those that only played during the beta but never purchased the game or used a buddy pass can't get legacy status anymore
Wtf the way it reads up there it seems like anyone that started playing since may and is on trial period right now can get it as long as they do 90 day sub. >;( They need to spell it out better because I'm confused.
Well if you were playing since May then you qualify. If you registered the game before may 31st you can pay for 90-days and qualify for legacy status.
I registered the game early May and my free trial ended on June 9th, I then paid for 90-days and got legacy status.
That's lame. We got a $3 savings paying for 90-days versus paying monthly. That's only $12 savings a year but it adds up if you're in it for the long term. They probably don't want us legacy members getting too good a deal.
Can anyone confirm that the levelling curve is a lot quicker now? My character was moved to another server off Istory and onto Gungnir and I potentially would like to reroll onto Sargeantas with the GAF LS but I want to know how long it would take to catch up to the same spot...Currently have all the DoW/DoM classes somewhere between level 15-20 and have miner at 22.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Relaxed Muscle
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I don't know about DoM classes.
That said leveling is quite bearable just doing leves. With rest EXP bonus (exp you get at by staying at inns) you could level from 20-30 more or less 1 level for hour. At 30 it gets a bit slower but at that point you *might* get pt to lvl up. 40-50 is very quick with a pt and PL or even without it...it could take just a few hours.
Of course if you get manage to find lvling pt that would be much much faster for 20-40.
The amount of time it takes per level is actually pretty stagnant (If you level with leves). The EXP "Curve" hasn't changed, but EXP in the lower levels is less then what you get in the higher. For instance on EXP leves you get a proportional 'bonus' at the end depending on the level you finish the leve and the amount of time it takes to complete (This is only for regional, local leves are just based on your turn in level). But on top of this the EXP modifier increases at specific intervals to greatly increase your EXP based on your level and the level of the mob. The first one happens at lvl 31 I think, and then lvl 41 after that. When I was leveling DRG in a plvl group the EXP from my lvl 30 and lvl 31 was a dramatic increase, like 150+ more EXP on each kill when I was already getting 500 EXP a kill before that (Not including chain bonus).
Personally I find lvl 1-25 to go by fairly slow unless I am getting plvled, back before the big leve EXP change it was possible to get lvl 1-6 on a single leve, but now the difficulty of the leve is based on mob level rather then a straight EXP bonus. At most you will get to lvl 3 now on a single leve and it might take 4 whole leves to get to lvl 6. Personally I think this is for the best otherwise those lvl 1-10 mobs are meaningless when you can bypass them in 15 minutes on any class but it does make it a bit longer. I'd say for a new character it might take 7 hours to go lvl 1-25 right now, but if you got a large storage of leves and participate in behest whenever possible you can make that go faster. EXP parties, if you can get one started at that lvl, are also really good, but most people don't party till minimum lvl 30, and most its lvl 32-39, after that its SB parties where lvl 41+ assist battles designed for lvl 50's and you can party with lvl 50's for awesome EXP.
Well that's for combat classes, crafting classes though got incredibly fast for EXP with the right abilities. Your EXP is now based on the level of item vs your own level times your quality multiplier. Its possible with the right set of abilities and gear to get 2.5k-3.2k EXP PER synth, and that doesn't even include rested EXP or Manual EXP, with those I have gotten as high as 6.2k EXP with an item 10 levels above my range and 350% EXP modifier + rested EXP
Well that's for combat classes, crafting classes though got incredibly fast for EXP with the right abilities. Your EXP is now based on the level of item vs your own level times your quality multiplier. Its possible with the right set of abilities and gear to get 2.5k-3.2k EXP PER synth, and that doesn't even include rested EXP or Manual EXP, with those I have gotten as high as 6.2k EXP with an item 10 levels above my range and 350% EXP modifier + rested EXP
What skill combination would that be
?The amount of time it takes per level is actually pretty stagnant (If you level with leves). The EXP "Curve" hasn't changed, but EXP in the lower levels is less then what you get in the higher. For instance on EXP leves you get a proportional 'bonus' at the end depending on the level you finish the leve and the amount of time it takes to complete (This is only for regional, local leves are just based on your turn in level). But on top of this the EXP modifier increases at specific intervals to greatly increase your EXP based on your level and the level of the mob. The first one happens at lvl 31 I think, and then lvl 41 after that. When I was leveling DRG in a plvl group the EXP from my lvl 30 and lvl 31 was a dramatic increase, like 150+ more EXP on each kill when I was already getting 500 EXP a kill before that (Not including chain bonus).
Personally I find lvl 1-25 to go by fairly slow unless I am getting plvled, back before the big leve EXP change it was possible to get lvl 1-6 on a single leve, but now the difficulty of the leve is based on mob level rather then a straight EXP bonus. At most you will get to lvl 3 now on a single leve and it might take 4 whole leves to get to lvl 6. Personally I think this is for the best otherwise those lvl 1-10 mobs are meaningless when you can bypass them in 15 minutes on any class but it does make it a bit longer. I'd say for a new character it might take 7 hours to go lvl 1-25 right now, but if you got a large storage of leves and participate in behest whenever possible you can make that go faster. EXP parties, if you can get one started at that lvl, are also really good, but most people don't party till minimum lvl 30, and most its lvl 32-39, after that its SB parties where lvl 41+ assist battles designed for lvl 50's and you can party with lvl 50's for awesome EXP.
Well that's for combat classes, crafting classes though got incredibly fast for EXP with the right abilities. Your EXP is now based on the level of item vs your own level times your quality multiplier. Its possible with the right set of abilities and gear to get 2.5k-3.2k EXP PER synth, and that doesn't even include rested EXP or Manual EXP, with those I have gotten as high as 6.2k EXP with an item 10 levels above my range and 350% EXP modifier + rested EXP
Thanks a bunch. Unfortunately you haven't made the decision to delete and re-roll any easier. The prospect of spending ages getting all the DoW/DoM classes back up to level 15 doesn't sound like a lot of fun, but might be neccessary if I want to play with the GAF Linkshell since it'll cost 9 pounds for that second character slot.
What skill combination would that be
I use a variety of combinations but for high level recipes I use the Blacksmithing lvl 45 ability for 3 guaranteed rapid synthesis at the start. Manipulation (lvl 30 GSM ability) for +20 durability and then Improvise + Perfection and a Brand ability (Lvl 20 and lvl 36 ability for Carpenter, but you can also use high return a lvl 36 BSM ability instead of perfection) Hopefully the brand ability is based on the crystal instability of your recipe. Using the 3 Rapid abilities if it gets around 50 progress or higher I can just careful synthesis the whole way unless I get instability and then I can just use 1 'maybe' 2 standards to finish it off.
It focuses on getting instability every synth the pay off is 106 quality to 190 quality on great success careful synthesis, followed by 100 quality just from brand and if you really want to tempt it you can do 2 more careful's before using the brand ability. With improvise up I get 200% increase in Quality so even on failures I am still getting close to 40-50 quality each time. Using this technique I get 270-450 quality on each synthesis I do, especially on higher level ones since I get instability more often during them. When I don't get instability I might get lucky to get 200 quality on high level items since outside of perfection I don't have a way to guarantee a boost in quality.
Doesn't exist anymore, a lot of sites (Like Yellow Gremlin) haven't fixed their data tables to eliminate the older class abilities. Back in November they completely restructure all class ability and identities. You now get a 'trait' I think at lvl 10 I think and after that its always 2 levels till a new 'something' for a class interchanging between ability and trait.
There are some abilities you can get as you level and some cross class abilities that help too. The MP evasion move on Pugilist you get early on helps in solo play, at lvl 20 you get auto-refresh which gives like 10-15 mp back a tick even in combat. Also if you are a mage class don't play with your weapon out, the more time you have to refresh your mp using passive magic regen the better you can extend your mp. For THM you get parsimony pretty early on which halves MP for a spell and gives you back the conserved MP. There is a trait later on that increased the return MP making it a great way to not only make some high mp spells less of a drain but they even give back a crap ton of MP using the ability. Basically try to conserve how much MP use by using necrosis (or whatever its called) to get hp back so you aren't spending MP on cure spells, use parsimony later on for thundara combo to really tear through mobs while keep mp usage down, and when you start running out of MP in the field, just stop and let your mp go back up. The longer you stand still when not in combat the faster the MP regens, it takes like 45 seconds to get full mp back when you are out of mp by just standing still in passive mode.
Allard, thanks for the great help you have provided to me and others in this thread. Are you aware of any resource/web-site that has kept up to date with the overhauls? A lot of the resources I'm using are incredibly out-dated and haven't been updated with the jobs system and are still carrying these old abilities.
Gamerscape (Eorzeapedia) is fairly up to date as far as general information goes. Sometimes its not fully up to date but its just a matter of them not getting to it yet.
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Main_Page
The lodestone for FFXIV (The official page) has a lot of the more general info updated up to latest patch including recipes for the crafts.
For gear and recipes I recommend these two sites
http://mozk-tabetai.com/
http://www.mooglebox.com/includes/index.php
For up to date guides. ffxivpads.com is pretty busy these days but you might find some old ones in there so keep an eye on the posting date.
Another source that isn't too bad is http://www.ffxiv-db.com/ but lately its been loading pretty slow for me. Its a good database for current quest content (but not guides for quests) as well as gear and recipes.
RPGCrazied
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I can't seem to find better gear. I'm still using the mage robe you buy at the adventures guild. Is that being changed to? The gear system I mean.
RPGCrazied
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Much appreciated.
Try the market wards.
Where are those? I'm still in Gridius Forest. Have been for days. I found the airship but have yet to go anywhere. I only have a level 8 pug and 7 thm.
There should be market wards in the main cities. Gridannia/Ul'dah and Limsa Lominsa. Head to one of those cities and google a map to find the market wards (sorry not too familiar with it myself). But they are functionally similar to an AH just 100x less convenient. There you can browse for the items you want and check prices. Last time I played you had to go to Ul'dah because that's where all the players put their retainers but I'm not so sure any more I think they might have been linked.
Each market ward has a new 'mercantile house' where you can browse the retainer wares from a specific city. People still mainly use Ul'dah in place of a consolidated AH system so to buy an item I recommend going to the Ul'Dah Mercantile house in any of the three cities. The entrance to the market wards are close to the city Aether Crystals. Each city also has a second entrance near each city Inn through an NPC standing under a large flag of the cities company. You can also find them marked on the map if you bring it up under the term "Market Wards".
That's what is needed to buy but selling is whole different story and is the most frustrating part still in the game from old market ward concept. You need to physically place a retainer into a ward in order to setup for selling. They alleviated some of these issues by giving the 'disbatch to ward' command at retainer bells but due to the retainers being physical objects on the server the wards have a retainer load limit and right now Ul'Dah wards are usually completely full UNLESS you go to them and physically deploy a retainer at a stand which more often then not will be available (Since you need to update them once every day or they will be ejected from the stand).
Grinded my character up to lvl 19 THM. I'm in Ul'Dah currently but I've had this quest that has been telling me to go to Limsa-Lominsa. Meanwhile I also remember seeing something about having to go to Market Ward when I hit lvl 18 to get a quest there.
Any advice on what I should be doing next?
Any advice on what I should be doing next?
About that...
This is from a rep. If you are using the account you already registered on, I am pretty sure you are fine for legacy status
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