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Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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A lot of the posts mainly seem to be quick answers to some posts in that thread, a lot of which are more personal/anecdotal management philosophies, answers about the timing of the server end and some bits of lore and small 'reaction' posts from some of the comments that may or may not have to do with anything about the game itself. Wonder if Reinheart is going to have a heart attack at all those posts, he was still posting last I looked XD. Thankfully most are small/inconsequential but they are getting wordier as he is going on.
If 2.0 is more playable, I might pop the disc back in and give it a go. They should give me a 7 day "Come back and try FFXIV again!" trial.
I remember when I played last it was just too... tedious. Getting to an area to level up/do quests, in and of itself was a huge chore. The UI was not made for a PC. I don't know what it was made for, I could list a million problems with it. There didn't seem to be any... coherence in how they delivered the story. Trading/purchasing was not a thing. It was a beautiful game, but it was not a game I had the energy to play, it took me 30minutes from logging in to actually do anything.
Had it changed by the end? Will 2.0 ball so hard? Tell me yes.
edit: Now I am looking up a good 'change' timeline, and some info on what to expect in 2.0, I'm actually really in the dark.
I remember when I played last it was just too... tedious. Getting to an area to level up/do quests, in and of itself was a huge chore. The UI was not made for a PC. I don't know what it was made for, I could list a million problems with it. There didn't seem to be any... coherence in how they delivered the story. Trading/purchasing was not a thing. It was a beautiful game, but it was not a game I had the energy to play, it took me 30minutes from logging in to actually do anything.
Had it changed by the end? Will 2.0 ball so hard? Tell me yes.
edit: Now I am looking up a good 'change' timeline, and some info on what to expect in 2.0, I'm actually really in the dark.
I agree with just about everything you said. I bought the CE at a discount, played it on an off for a month, loved some thing but hated many more things, and never went back. Missed a lot of fights, mounts, titles ect that are gone now, I just could not be bothered.
I would love to return to this universe, but I need to know it's worth my time. A trial week would do wonders.
EndcatOmega
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FFXIV uses 'human race' to refer to everyone playable, right, not just Hyur?
1.x was already incredibly more playable at the end than around launch, and 2.0 should just be a further improvement in that regard. Unlike Tanaka and the original dev team, YoshiP actually plays other MMOs and isn't oblivious to things like a proper PC control scheme.
Presumably, you should get your "trial" chance during the 2.0 beta, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
Presumably, you should get your "trial" chance during the 2.0 beta, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
IonicSnake
Banned
Not sure what you mean but the humans in FFXIV are the hyurs.
In that particular quote, yes (YoshiP uses 人間 "people, human being" as opposed to ヒューラン "Hyuran - Hyur" being the particular human-like race in Hydaelyn).
EndcatOmega
Unconfirmed Member
Ah, thought so, thanks.
staticneuron
Member
From Final Fantasy XIV Lodestone:
From what I gather they are a little bit behind but they have already stated intentions of having another free trial.
METEOR SURVIVOR
I have to say I really really want one of those. It seems that they are open to the idea of selling them, but I got the impression that they would do this only at like game conventions and stuff, and sadly I live nowhere near any game convention. I would kill for one of those though
METEOR SURVIVOR
I REALLY want one of those. Would be nice if everyone who obtained legacy status got one.
I agree! Problem is, like with the contests, they seem to be limited to send (at least as far as European countries goes) only to Spain, France, UK and Germany, so I'm worried that even if there's a chance, they might screw us subscribers not living in one of the aforementioned countries.
Hihi, new post on my blog, fresh from the oven! Expect another one soon, with relic progress, Hamlet, primals and more.
http://enkredible.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/the-end-of-an-era-1-0-recap/
http://enkredible.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/the-end-of-an-era-1-0-recap/
IonicSnake
Banned
A bunch of messages from Yoshi-P translated.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ud-Messages-from-Yoshi-P!?p=894128#post894128
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ud-Messages-from-Yoshi-P!?p=894128#post894128
I could have sworn I've seen something like that before, but I'm not finding anything in my bookmarks. Maybe one of the more regular players know of something?
Relaxed Muscle
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People complained about PS3 players being in the same servers as PC players? Seriously some people on the official forums are just morons...
Anyway, as always is a pleasure to see Yoshida so eager so receive feedback and procide responses. I also like the majority of his ideas. Is my favorite director at SE right now.
It's particularly silly because the reason they use is the infamous "PS2 limitations" excuse from FFXI. It was pretty obvious each time it was used that it was largely just a crutch that the XI dev team trotted out to avoid having to do a lot of effort for seemingly minor things. In retrospect, some of those things that were restricted by "PS2 limitations" ended up being changed or resolved anyway.
However, I really don't see this being an issue as long as YoshiP is running the show for XIV. It's pretty obvious that the level of transparency that he's comfortable with is on a completely different level than the other teams in the past. Top this off with the fact that there's already going to be a completely different UI for PS3 and PC, and worrying about being held back by PS3 support seems even more foolhardy.
I wouldn't care less if they kept the PS3 users separate tbh, I think PS3 limitations is a valid point if you ask me, they have their own engine and UI so why not give them their own server aswell ?
Yea you could argue that you want to play with your friends but its the same thing with international servers and regional servers.
Yea you could argue that you want to play with your friends but its the same thing with international servers and regional servers.
creid
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They're bringing the servers back up? I must've missed that.
IonicSnake
Banned
Yeah but with no support and no updates. They're pretty much putting them up for the ones who want to log on and ignore it.
Relaxed Muscle
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I think the only clear limitation is the fact that the world is separated in smaller areas, but looking at the alpha in the latest producer letters they aren't that small. Also that would have required build partially two different world layouts.
Other limitations like voice chat are mostly stupid since quite some people may be still be able to use 3rd party software on PC for it.
I think of the PS3 like a "minimal PC requeriment" setup.
Yes for now, but in 3 or 4 years its guna look pretty dire, its kind of like comparing PS2 FF11 to PC FF11.
You are totally right though its mostly a visual thing, although several times when things have been requested they have said that they may not beable to incorporate it due to PS3 memory issues.
If its a problem before its released on PS3 it can only get worse, plus they have already got a 20 gb limit in place for the intital install, which although not a major restriction it is one non the less. (it makes me wonder if this could have an impact on future expansions which will obviously effect PC users)
Don't worry over it, treat it like minimum specs period. They would be be more stupid to ignore potential player base and make it PC only after its horrendous launch. If it suffers because of it then so be it, this game wouldn't even get the 'makeover' unless it was releasing on the PS3, and if there is anything stupid in an MMO it is community segregation. Its happening, and there is reasons for it happening. Having said that limitations are not going to be nearly as consequential for this game compared to FFXI. The amount of RAM in the PS2 made basic calculation functions limited, the amount of RAM in this current/past cycle is not going to be even close to as limiting.
Also in regards to that HDD issue... Yoshida specifically mentioned toning down the visuals and assets for the PS3 version so it could be a snugger fit then PC, that already shows PS3 is its own limitation and not a limitation for the PC version, they will tone down subsequent expansions in the future if they think it will be an issue but ONLY for the PS3 version.
One last distinct difference between FFXI and FFXIV, FFXI was based on the PS2 version and the PC EMULATED the PS2 version. Outside of slightly higher textures and ways to brute force the graphics there was minimal to zero difference between the PS2 and PC version. That isn't the case for FFXIV, they made an engine with explicit purpose of hardware scaling that just happened to have a setting that worked on the PS3 (intentionally). That difference alone is night and day difference between the two games.
This might be me being slightly delusional but I had been thinking that if there ever came a time where the PC side began to suffer enormously because of the PS3 platform they'd shift it over to the next generation of PS hardware. Although this causes mass inconveniences for those playing on PS3 with little desire to upgrade to next generation.
I'm pretty certain that SE have stated they want FFXIV to last a decade at least, a la FFXI. It's going to have a rough time surviving that long on a near-end of life cycle console. They would have to be thinking about long term solutions.
Not to mention the next content patch? (said milestone, take that as you will) after 2.0 launch is DX11 support and so on. Steps in the right direction, at the very least.
On another note, I was expecting a new alpha video last night seeing as we're supposed to get one a week. Perhaps tonight instead.
I'm pretty certain that SE have stated they want FFXIV to last a decade at least, a la FFXI. It's going to have a rough time surviving that long on a near-end of life cycle console. They would have to be thinking about long term solutions.
Not to mention the next content patch? (said milestone, take that as you will) after 2.0 launch is DX11 support and so on. Steps in the right direction, at the very least.
On another note, I was expecting a new alpha video last night seeing as we're supposed to get one a week. Perhaps tonight instead.
DrForester
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So, when 2.0 comes out do we just log into the game like normal and get an update? Do we have to buy the game again?
If you have the game already you get the update for free. It'll be a whole new client though so you'll have to redownload the game.
IonicSnake
Banned
Letter IV is officially out with subtitles.
http://youtu.be/smC5GiZCHXg don't forget to turn on the subs.
http://youtu.be/smC5GiZCHXg don't forget to turn on the subs.
Munba
Member
2 TRULY interesting posts by rep Fernehalwes about lore:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626&viewfull=1#post898626
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/57049-CG-Midlander?p=898626&viewfull=1#post898626
haha
I loved them as well.
Shamelessly posting my new blog post if anyone's interested. As I warned on my last one, this one's based on endgame in 1.0 (brushed through it very lightly, since I didn't want to make it too extense). Hope you guys enjoy!
http://enkredible.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/the-enf-of-an-era-1-0-recap-endgame/
creid
Member
Interesting stuff. Where are these "Ascians" mentioned in the game? I don't remember reading anything about them.
During the "main" unfinished storyline (lv 30? mission). There's a cutscene involving an Ascian, but they never elaborate on them (since it was left unfinished).
Some interesting new areas in the black shroud in that live letter.
Hope they plan to allow all legacy members into alpha, that would be cool
Not likely unless they plan to make lots of new worlds besides the two that are already in place but the letter does seem to imply they hope to make a lot more invites then they were originally planning to when they planned the alpha test, and it is in their best interest (in more ways then one) for them to make beta expansive enough to let all 'legacy' or active subscribers at the end of 1.0 in for testing. 1) to keep communities lasting long enough for what is now likely a very long wait for launch and 2) tests the server and their architecture well enough that it can support all the returning AND new players coming in for launch.
Audioboxer
Member
If I buy the old copy of FF14 can I still get the 2.0 update for free?
Audioboxer
Member
Yeah can get it for just under £10. I've read the servers are down though, won't that affect my ability to register?
Audίoboxer;44571096 said:
You can't register a copy of FFXIV right now, you probably won't gain access to it till 2.0 is about ready to launch because once you register the game the provided 30 day trial automatically starts and they don't want people to lose the ability to use that while the game is currently offline and isn't charging anyways. Right now you can't even go on the 'old' servers which are going live again tomorrow (but still won't be saving) unless you had an active account after September 30th.
Audioboxer
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I now understand this, I guess my real concern is will Square somehow block keys from the old FF14 games when 2.0 hits.
Audίoboxer;44571834 said:
No idea, I honestly don't think its a question that has been asked to the staff or if it has they have never answered. My 'gut' tells me they will honor it but don't take my word for it. Its a question I have a hard time answering to people when its asked because corporate bottomline is part of the reason the game is in the mess that it is, but since Yoshida and his troop have been very honest about winning back players (and they want as many paying customers as possible) I think they will honor it or at least 'will' honor it eventually if its not setup right away.
Audioboxer
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Might take a gamble for £10. No matter how hard I keep trying to like Guild Wars 2, I just don't (bores the shit out of me, and loot drops/loot in general isn't deep enough). Not really in the mood for going back to WoW (awful character models unless you go newer races/dated graphics), so I wanted to give FF14 a punt after the update. Not keen on spending £30+ for AAR and then also paying a monthly fee on top.
I like the Final Fantasy lore, grew up with the games, so I'm hoping AAR is full of fan service and ties to the whole series.
Audίoboxer;44572251 said:
You are in luck! Its like the one thing Yoshida kept saying from the start we needed more in FFXIV (almost to the point of obsession). He was name dropping instances from past FF's that was either going to be in ARR or he wanted to add at a later date in an expansion etc. We know a lot of FFIII stuff is in (One whole 24 player raid based around the Crystal Tower concept from FFIII), the whole Dalamud storyline was ripped straight out of FFVII (with obvious original nuances). He changed the old class system to add in job specs based on previous Final Fantasy jobs (Dragoon, White Mage, Paladin etc.), we have seen concept work for Amon from FFIII, Tiamat, Typhun, siren, the demonic wall etc.
staticneuron
Member
Audίoboxer;44571834 said:
I don't see why they would. I imagine the old keys that are unregistered are in limited quantity, so whatever wasn't shipped back or destroyed would be honored.
The things that looked like the Grim Reaper?
Wow seriously? That attention to detail......
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6756468.html
They're turning 1.23b servers back on for anyone who logged in in October or November, free November logins included. They go away if the population dips too low. Let's relive the last memories of Eorzea, even though we'll be reset to pre-shutdown data at 2.0 launch!
They're turning 1.23b servers back on for anyone who logged in in October or November, free November logins included. They go away if the population dips too low. Let's relive the last memories of Eorzea, even though we'll be reset to pre-shutdown data at 2.0 launch!
That wouldn't matter, we are all getting another 30 days free in 2.0.
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