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Final Fantasy XIV |OT| ARR: Alpha Closed. Beta mid-Feb
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Rentahamster
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Kronotech said:
You can get Second Wind by killing rats with a PUG and the starter weapon for about 1-2 hours to reach PUG 6. Same for getting yourself Cure, Stoneskin, and Shock Spikes by hitting CON 8.
TheFatOne said:
I reached Goldsmith 14 almost exclusively by doing local leves in between epic large group battle leve runs.
If you CHOOSE to grind, that's your choice, but this game gives you other options for leveling crafts besides really making useless junk for hours on end and wasting money while doing it.
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Cathcart said:Fishy cave place we went the other day:
Okay, stupid question of the day, how do you turn names off for screens?
DrForester
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Unknown Soldier said:
In FFXI it was /name off
Rentahamster
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SuperLurker
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Sewing is serious business :lol
My character has been feeling a lot stronger since I hit 21. I don't know if its due to being optimal rank for gear or picking up Firm Conviction but I seem to be able to take a hit a lot better. I was fighting thickshells in grid and they were only hitting me for 70ish while I was casting.
My character has been feeling a lot stronger since I hit 21. I don't know if its due to being optimal rank for gear or picking up Firm Conviction but I seem to be able to take a hit a lot better. I was fighting thickshells in grid and they were only hitting me for 70ish while I was casting.
Rentahamster
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Holy shit, that behest leve was fucking epic.
I shared two sort of hints/tips with my linkshell today I thought everyone was already aware of, but I figured I'd share them with Gaf too in case they didnt' know.
1) Crafting leves. If a crafting leve gives you 5 materials and wants you to make 3 materials you can craft a total of 5 times. So, even if you do 3 successful ones in a row, and are "done" with the leve requirements, you can still use up the extra 2 material batches it gave you to craft two more times for extra exp. Do not pass up this extra experience points.
2) Faction leves. You need 100 credits with a faction standing to do a faction leve for them. When you pick a normal leve look near the bottom of it at the guild counter NPC before you accept it. It should say which faction it belongs to. If it's NOT the kind you want, say you are at 80 for Horn and Hand but the leve is Azeyama Shields, well just don't accept the leve, then go back in to reaccept, it should have changed.
Using that method you should be able to get 8 leves every 36hrs towards faction leves you want, instead of splitting up randomly and taking a much longer time to reach the 100.
I'm not sure if either of these two things are actually bugs or oversights by SquareEnix, but make use of them.
1) Crafting leves. If a crafting leve gives you 5 materials and wants you to make 3 materials you can craft a total of 5 times. So, even if you do 3 successful ones in a row, and are "done" with the leve requirements, you can still use up the extra 2 material batches it gave you to craft two more times for extra exp. Do not pass up this extra experience points.
2) Faction leves. You need 100 credits with a faction standing to do a faction leve for them. When you pick a normal leve look near the bottom of it at the guild counter NPC before you accept it. It should say which faction it belongs to. If it's NOT the kind you want, say you are at 80 for Horn and Hand but the leve is Azeyama Shields, well just don't accept the leve, then go back in to reaccept, it should have changed.
Using that method you should be able to get 8 leves every 36hrs towards faction leves you want, instead of splitting up randomly and taking a much longer time to reach the 100.
I'm not sure if either of these two things are actually bugs or oversights by SquareEnix, but make use of them.
Jinko said:
Yea i found a spot in Grid today where the gate is up north where nothing is. Not like fps matters much for crafting but i was getting a good 50-60 in the empty spot compared to 19-25 in the busy areas of town.
rank30 behest was a blast! Also had fun testing out some of the r30 leves (gonna be a couple days before we figure out how many stars to pick for each one) . All in all a really fun night and we got a lot accomplished (super secret party grind spot ftw!).
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So a group of us went exploring near Gridania. A long time before the current city-states of Eorzea were founded, the Ixal beastmen built a flourishing civilization which suddenly vanished without a trace. They left behind strange step pyraminds, various artifacts, and a famous calendar which states that the world will end in the year 2012. We found such an artifact but unfortunately were unable to locate either Indiana Jones or Lara Croft, so the meaning of this mysterious statue will remain, well, mysterious.
Unfortunately a number of us ran into a series of elaborate booby traps, including rolling giant stone boulders, floor plates which triggered poison arrows shooting out of the walls, and chambers which sealed shut and filled with sand. Only a few of us made it out of there alive.
Unfortunately a number of us ran into a series of elaborate booby traps, including rolling giant stone boulders, floor plates which triggered poison arrows shooting out of the walls, and chambers which sealed shut and filled with sand. Only a few of us made it out of there alive.
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Oh, right, somehow during that rank 30 behest we did in the Nanawa Mines, we managed to get a full party of 15 people because of the 3 random guys from another LS we picked up who were hanging out there doing their own leves. Full party is best party! :lol
Great pictures. They only display my biggest complaint about the classes in full force though: These classes don't feel very "Final Fantasy" to me at all. FFXI captured them perfectly. The art design, while good, really guts any iconic look or feel up to this point. =/
demosthenes
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Kintaro said:
Yea...this is one thing that I miss so far from XI...
I think thats mostly due to the lacking gear choices right now though. I dont remember any of the jobs early on in FFXI having a distinct look to them. Everyone wore the same doublets, subligars, harnesses, and robes just like we have here.
Later on in level, they definitely started to look different...especially after AF.
Later on in level, they definitely started to look different...especially after AF.
demosthenes
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Salaadin said:
Yea, this is what I'm hoping for, that yea they might not be FFish but they'll at least be distinct later on in the ranks.
Salaadin said:
I disagree. Even early on in levels, FFXI jobs felt like FF jobs. Sure a THF and a MNK both wore a doublet, but you could definitely tell which was which immediately.
We have datamined gear all the way to the level cap. They all blend together pretty well and don't branch off in distinctive ways. Yeah, there's no AF yet, but who says there will be?
For anyone interested in what the rank 30 missions look like
Battle with NPC's + Parley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxMfyVfUVKs
Battle with NPC's + Parley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxMfyVfUVKs
Kintaro said:
I dont know. One of my complaints about FFXI was that everyone looked the same. Im not sure how you could tell a different but I sure as hell couldnt without checking them. Weapons didnt even matter in FFXI has sometimes youd have jobs mix and matching weapons. In XIV, at least you can look immediately and see Axe=MRD, h2h = PUG, etc.
I do think Ive strayed off of your original point though. They dont feel very Final Fantasy. Even if they implement AF and such, we probably arent going to get the same look that everyone loves. No RDM pimp hats or anything like that. Thats kinda discouraging.
Salaadin said:
If one were to do a flat comparison at the half way point of your job in FFXI compared to the halfway point in FFXIV, you definitely knew which job was which in FFXI.
Also, SP bug aside, being a DoM in FFXIV must be annoying as fuck because once you enter a party, it seems that you're a healer/buffer. Otherwise, your party isn't going to last very long since everyone else is probably melee. :lol
demosthenes
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Didn't think I saw this...
http://www.massively.com/2010/10/11/nycc-2010-our-interview-with-ffxivs-sage-sundi-and-yasu-kurosa/
http://www.massively.com/2010/10/11/nycc-2010-our-interview-with-ffxivs-sage-sundi-and-yasu-kurosa/
In the end it still doesn't explain why the UI is so bad in the first place when they clearly made one before with FFXI where it was designed for both PS2 and PC users. Sorry but that the UI is the way it is means to me that no one developing the game actually sat and played what they were creating. Concerns from testers be damned. If they had they'd at least have changed it because they themselves didn't find it good enough.
Anyway, is there any word on when the next patch/maintenance will be? Or is there a normal schedule?
Anyway, is there any word on when the next patch/maintenance will be? Or is there a normal schedule?
Effect said:
A lot of people are saying this and I think the obvious conclusion is that it's dead on. Not because SE didn't play their own game or test it, but because SE didn't write most of it. Shipping the design to China and letting them write it is such a fitting explanation because, as you said, it's really difficult to believe that SE wrote a game this way. It's much more likely that they got back this bug riddled mess and are now rewriting/customizing it which is taking a long time because the offshore team did a great job of messing it up to begin with.
Happens all the time in software development. Management wants to "save money" by shipping the work offshore and then the developers are sitting there afterward saying "why the hell didn't they just let us write it in the first place?" :lol
Unknown Soldier said:
I'm not talking about low level abilities. I'm talking about level 20-30+ abilities. It just makes me think of FFXI when you had to have certain subjobs leveled up. That wasn't such a big deal due to the need to only get it to 37 (before the lvl cap rising). In this case, it may be expected to have PUG 30 Ability for MRD and so on since there is no ability level cap.
I don't know, I'm probably just crying wolf. I just don't want those kinds of "leet" demands for endgame.
Cathcart said:
I hadn't considered that. This makes some of the Japanese comments complaining about the characters (language wise) that showed up in the Japanese version actually being Chinese make more sense. The Made in China comments in some Amazon.com reviews as well. That didn't click for some reason until now. That's weird that the code of all things would be farmed out. Sound, art, and maybe production of the actual dvds sure. Actual coding?
Anyway there is no reason why the PC and PS3 versions can't have different interfaces. There is no PvP taking place where one side would have an unfair advantage that I know of. If you had two interfaces that were designed well no reason why they bought couldn't be good and allow two different type of players to response just as quickly to situations if they were grouped.
demosthenes
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Effect said:
FFXI had PVP, why would you think this won't have PVP eventually?
Dreamwriter
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Those "requirements" were all dumb anyways. I played my character how I wanted, I subbed SMN with my BLM. If you don't want to go to all that work to make your character the best possible character type the game possibly allows, then don't. It means you won't have access to the most elitist parties, darn.Kronotech said:
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Kronotech said:
Well the good news this game isn't nearly as hardcore as FFXI in the party requirements department. If anything the actual killing of mobs is laughably easy, comparable to WoW if our performance with a bunch of rank 18-23 players in a rank 30 behest last night is any indication. At least so far it's nothing like FFXI where you had to have the exact job and subjob, exact gear, exact skills, and exact reputation on the server to even get in a decent party unless you were a Bard in which case WOO HOO. At least in FFXIV, if you've got a basic melee tank who isn't completely stupid and can taunt on demand, a healer who knows how to spam AoE heals, and a couple of guys who can mash 1111111111111111111 to damage the mob, you're pretty much set from what I've seen. And party size is up to 15 now, so you can have 5 tanks and 5 healers if you want and have 2 tanks per mob.
HappyBivouac
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Sort of veering off-topic, but the "Made In China" crap pisses me off. Not because there isn't some validity to it. Developers do outsource coding all the time I'm sure. It's just the usual tone of japanese internet users toward China and its people that gets under my skin. Why does Japan get a pass on being ethnocentric, xenophobic assholes all the time?
Dreamwriter
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The interface wouldn't be bad at all if there was no lag. Might be a bit clunky, but would be perfectly usable. And that's the problem - the developers and their main testers before beta had no lag, because they are testing with servers that are in the same building. Then when the beta launched and complaints started pouring in, it's obvious that their first response was "Oh shit, let's get rid of as much lag as possible!" That's why when the game launched, the lag got WAY better, but the interface stayed the same.Effect said:
HappyBivouac
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If they weren't so obsessive about keeping the exact same experience across all platforms we'd have a better game already. Hell, that's the whole reason they nipped the ffxiv windower in the bud before it took root I'm sure. If that windower had been allowed to exist, we would already be seeing plugins that would likely improve the game a ton.
Hopefully this update comes soon, and hopefully for SE's sake it fixes a lot of stuff.
Hopefully this update comes soon, and hopefully for SE's sake it fixes a lot of stuff.
demosthenes
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Dreamwriter said:
I don't mind a bit clunky. But clunky stuff like this has to go:
-no sortable inventory
-or if for some reason they're against that, then when i select a head piece to equip/unequip only allow head pieces to be shown.
Rentahamster
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I think the limited chat window in that screenshot kinda shows how too much healing can be detrimental for mages' SP gain if there are too many. We had a lot of mages who were sharing the healing load so I don't think many of them got good SP since a lot of times they were healing for 0HP which doesn't proc skill gains. In these situations you gotta just turn on AoE nuke and go to town.careksims said:Full 15 party Rank 30 Behest in the mines. A crazy and epic mess XD
Contrast that rank 30 behest with the rank 20 behest we did an hour later at Horizon - Elly was the only CON in the group and she said she got at least 2K SP from that leve.
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