Munba
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My fear now is that there will not be high level crafted gear at all but only glamours :/ Hope not.
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My fear now is that there will not be high level crafted gear at all but only glamours :/ Hope not.
Just a guess but that Gerolt stuff probably takes the place of current myth gear and people will need to farm tomes for that while they wait to get allagan 2 drops from the new coil.
At least the outfit I will need isn't so bad I guess. BLM gets screwed though with that ugly tutu.
GraveRobberX
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There will be, the master recipes touted by the devs have to have some great stuff in there
3 star crafted items will play a huge role in revitalizing the market
It's just we have to see how the materials for said crafted items are gotten
I just looked at the picture again is the BRD wearing designer Clogs, those look painful
I'll take the Tutu goddammit, thank fuck there's glamour to change that shit up at least!
The red/black ones are allagan 2, yes.
GraveRobberX
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I so hope Turn 6-9 follow the same loot table as 1-5 excluding 3 of course
Tanks need that body ASAP!, I swear to god if they put bodies in Turn 9, I'll be super pissed!
Tanks need that body ASAP!, I swear to god if they put bodies in Turn 9, I'll be super pissed!
Zomba13
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But in the description is says
Glamours cannot be cast said:
Where Healer robe is the base item and darklight cowl is the item projected onto it.
Would be the same as projecting an hurdygurdywhatsit Odin Body (4 slot) onto PLD body (1 slot) or DL tincan (2 Slot).
Really sucks. Glad I went for Zantetsuken to use as a vanity item. If I even gold Odin again I may get the hat if I find some body stuff it goes with or more likely the Choco Barding.
I don't because bard got super fucked with all that stuff in T4 an T5...
Stone Ocean
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It's bad translation it seems. Just look at the images and you'll understand
Darklight robe > WHM robe = OK
WHM robe > Darklight robe = not OK
EDIT - Ok I don't understand it anymore. I guess Odin will still be useless after all? This whole thing is confusing as shit if you read it again.
GraveRobberX
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You just keep playing your songs!
Let the people who eat the damage get the first items!
Do you really have a deathwish to be super spoony BRD and try to get yourself killed
Stone Ocean
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Aren't most current BiS BRD stuff Myth anyways?
Yes but after trying for three months the last bis piece I need is from coil and still hasn't dropped. :/
Zomba13
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I think it's a mix of bad translation and bad visual aids. It has the 'base' item on the left but an arrow to the right which implies the base item is going over the right item but that is labelled as the projected item implying that it is the item used as vanity.
We won't know until we can fiddle with it. All we know is 1:1 slots work fine and 2+:1 or 1:2+ work but we don't know which.
On a non vanity-but-still-kinda-vanity tangent, anyone know if Chocobo breeding is planned at all? I loved that in FFXI and loved my Red Chocobo named Black Hayate.
GraveRobberX
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It makes sense to me. An item that takes up multiple slots can be glamoured to show as something else, even with items that only take one, it's just those unused slots will show as empty. However an item that only takes up one can't be glamoured to show something that takes up more.
So yes, Odin is useless. Probably because they are too lazy to hide those other item slots, which would cause really ugly clipping.
Stone Ocean
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3 months and no boots? Yeouch
I'm so glad most SCH BiS is Myth as well. And I can just use the CT gloves if I can't drop the Allagan ones.
Yeah... just curious how the new gear will work out. Maybe I'll get lucky again and my BIS is all that Gerolt gear.
GraveRobberX
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It took me from Mid-October (2013) till last week, to finally see the Heavy Allagan Plate Belt drop and winning it!
I'm missing Head from T5 and that damn fending ring, which I always gets screwed over some way somehow, if I go tank, I lose lot (was a random PUG for most Coil parties in Nov-Dec) or if I went BLM as enrage for Turn 2, I couldn't even roll...
I wish they could put in a system where randomness still plays a part but also loot doesn't fuck over the whole group for weeks/months cause you only get probably 8 items out of the week (it will be only 2-4 for the first few weeks)
Stone Ocean
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I wish Coil was more like CT where you can choose whether to get locked out by getting an item or something. Having one shot a week at RNG is really really annoying.
Quite honestly they should move to the CT lockout system for coil. Let people run as much as they want, but only lot on one item a week. Would be more than fair.
GraveRobberX
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Well they want to keep end game raids to be a one time chance scenario
Not repeat as many times necessary till you get it, then Coil would really get farmed out hard and burn out players
Also get only 1 piece guaranteed for the week vs 8 chances, that's the difference
I did Coil last week as a PUG to help them out, out of the 6 drops 5 went to me, felt like I was just looting whoring, they didn't need, I just rolled and won
I just wish there was a mechanic that registered what the game dropped as coffer loot for you
So lets say Turn 6-9 you get 8 items, next week, those 8 items will be placed in the holding table, then you do 6-9 again, those items will not be showing their face again that week, cause you've already seen them
Either give it a 2-3 week grace period, meaning, items by that time start dropping in repeats will be at least a month down the line, this way, at least you get people geared out little by little w/o getting overlapped
If Turn 6-9 has a broken table again like Turn 1 was for awhile or god forbid, some people get Turn 6, 7, 8 down and on farm status, and same gear starts to drop quickly and it's not needed, it will really piss people off
At the start you really will be seeing all new items for weeks to come, but when duplicates start coming into play, that's when the lockout hurts
theMrCravens
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Wait.. Are they actually adding AF2 ?
How would that work without level cap increase for new job quests ?
How would that work without level cap increase for new job quests ?
GraveRobberX
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Looks like AF2 isn't in this patch, the way the gear is looking
Most AF2 gear that was shown through LL is no where to be seen like DRG or WAR
So at the moment it's Crafted, something to do with the Relic Dude that requires the new Soldiery tomes, and finally Allagan 2 from Coil 6-9
Looks like AF2 is being held back for 2.3 to coincide with Crystal Tower Floor 1
CTF1 gear will either be below or equal to Allagan 2 and AF2 will be the new chasing item to surpass Allagan 2 to make said content easier for some to do 6-9
AF2 is likely delayed. Instead we get some other gear that can be exchanged for the new tomes.
Stone Ocean
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Protect, Stoneskin, Swiftcast, Cleric Stance and Aero.
It's not like you'll have other options, anyways - Cure? Raise? Surecast? Blizzard 2? lol. Swiftcast is of absolute importance though.
There is an actual AF2 coming.
thanks!
why use cleric stance if i'll be a healer, though? just for solo/dps opportunities?
i've heard surecast is a solid option - why do you say otherwise?
GraveRobberX
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Most of the time you'll be DPS'ing
Your Fairy almost does 75% healing for you, most dungeons you can be afk and no one would be the wiser
You could apply all your ACN DOTs, and switch back and just throw an adlo here and there, maybe a Pysik if you really want to show them you are there
You sure you meant swiftcast and not surecast, sure just means it will land, I think it even overrides paralyze, swiftcast is the one every mage wants, insta-raise is awesome
it's later on in end game where your attention is needed
This would be good move.
Hmm, Protect, Switfcast, stoneskin, there isn't much to choose from. (Surecast maybe but I never use it tbh)
I heard that in that damn NPCs voice.
Devilgunman
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Yochi-P clearly is working hard to feed us content. I can't imagine how much content it will be in a proper expansion. Please add Ninja!
Then my work here is done.
Stone Ocean
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Surecast is kinda useless considering all SCH spells are super fast. Can't think of a situation where it would be useful
The way I'm understanding the glamour system is for something like the darklight cowl, you can either make it look like a helm, a chest, or another helm/chest combo. And if you make it look like an item that occupies a single slot, the others will be empty.
So you can wear Odin armor and glamour it to look like a pair of boots, but you'll be running around naked since chest/gloves/pants will all appear to be empty. I suppose you could also make it look like the darklight tanking pants since that's two of the four slots.
Also would mean you can't glamour a one handed weapon to look like a two hander, but you can do it the other way around. Or you can make a two handed weapon look like a shield if you really wanted to.
So you can wear Odin armor and glamour it to look like a pair of boots, but you'll be running around naked since chest/gloves/pants will all appear to be empty. I suppose you could also make it look like the darklight tanking pants since that's two of the four slots.
Also would mean you can't glamour a one handed weapon to look like a two hander, but you can do it the other way around. Or you can make a two handed weapon look like a shield if you really wanted to.
Nope I think its the other way round.
Common sense tells me you can only glamour a robe to a cowl, but not a cowl to a robe because it share 2 slots, but this is SE so common sense doesn't really come into it I guess.
In the lodestone post, the projected item is the appearance/glamour that's being applied to the base item. So your example is the one thing they say is possible and use as an example as well. The rest was just guessing on my part, as they might not let you apply a helm glamour to a cowl since it's technically still just a body piece that doesn't let you equip a helm. I was just basing it off the rules they listed.
Ah, so we're probably not getting AF2 this time. That's a shame, I rather liked the illustrations of WAR AF2. GF armor looks decent though, and the fact that you can get GF weapons is nice as well. Hopefully they don't cost THAT many Soldiery Tomes. The 900 Myth needed for Relic+1 was painful when we were only getting 300 per week.
Also, the fact that you need an item to remove Glamours from items is a little annoying. It takes an already somewhat obtuse system and makes it even more clumsy. That said, I'm not sure I'll be using the vanity system all that much anyway, and hopefully they make it a little less clumsy in future iterations.
The whole thing with Odin armor is still a huge bummer though.
Also, the fact that you need an item to remove Glamours from items is a little annoying. It takes an already somewhat obtuse system and makes it even more clumsy. That said, I'm not sure I'll be using the vanity system all that much anyway, and hopefully they make it a little less clumsy in future iterations.
The whole thing with Odin armor is still a huge bummer though.
Also, because other people mentioned it.
I do hope that they step up the voice acting at some point. Preferably I'd like them to hire a new voice cast starting with the expansion. I'm sure they can find people that sound like the current cast, but can do the roles more justice.
I do hope that they step up the voice acting at some point. Preferably I'd like them to hire a new voice cast starting with the expansion. I'm sure they can find people that sound like the current cast, but can do the roles more justice.
Nope, no AF2 this time.
FrankNitty
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Indeed we did. like everything we need is from turn 4 and 5. Boots, Neck, Pants and Bow. Everything else is meh.
Yeeeeaaah, but at the same time, Tanks are, "so," blasted vital for a parties survival that, indeed, the armor needs to be one of the more easily acquired items. Usually, in most fights, parties can deal with the DPS being a little fragile or their damage being a little lower then it should, but a Tank not being able to survive attacks is essentially a brick wall for progression.
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