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[Sophia]

Do we have an ETA for when patches will go up tomorrow?

Maintenance ends at 1 AM Pacific time, so the download should be up within a few hours before it ends.

 

[Teknoman]

Seriously though, I do secretly hope for a mechanic you'll have to Tank LB through. No more DPS LBs to meet DPS checks! :x

Yeah im sick of never using my LB. Unless they make new job specific LBs like they said they would. Warrior should have some crazy ass frenzy or something. Seems like a wasted effort to be still.

 

[gryvan]

Last time I played dota 2 with friends it didn't go so well, so I usually play solo from time to time just to stay refreshed on the mechanics.

If you don't mind a scrub puck player throwing every game, we can play some time.

I'll carry you with my lich tramain~

 

[the_sun_king]

Do we have an ETA for when patches will go up tomorrow?

1AM PDT

 

[Mr. Bubble]

Fair point. I've personally experienced the opposite, as everyone on Adamantoise is too familiar with the Triangle or LOS method. Trying to explain them anything else results in a headache inducing mess where we spend way too much time in Phase 1 or Phase 2.

Hello, fellow Adamantoisian.

 

[Sophia]

Hello, fellow Adamantoisian.

Why hello there. There's a better-than-average chance you've seen my Lalafell running around the game world.

 

[aceface]

Still no patch notes...it's like they want me to do something productive.

 

[rubius01]

More so we can take as much time to re watch the mechanics and learn the fight faster so we don't have to rush to clear on the final weekend before patch.

We only do roughly less than 6 hours a week in coil typically. However, our latest clear showed me is that a dedicated, extended length session is way better than many short ones in terms of learning and progressing. You point out we lose focus at 2 hours, but I'd argue sometime after that we get more focused. Most of our clears came after going beyond our normal 2 hour session.

Oh good god no. I was about to die from that 6 hour marathon.

I don't mind doing that every 6 months or so.

 

[Omnicent]

Still no patch notes...it's like they want me to do something productive.

just got to bed and wake up in about 7 hours (thats what I'm about to do)

 

[dark_chris]

My withdrawal for this game is driving me insane!!

Spoiler

its actually the perfect time to play the other hundreds of games i havent touched...

 

[WolvenOne]

I need to apologize for earlier.

There are certain subjects that I am very, VERY, sore about, and I do not like to be reminded of them. These subjects are best left alone, but that doesn't justify my behavior.

I should have handled it better.

 

[plake]

Just remember there are no winners arguing on the Internet.

 

[Item Box]

Yeah im sick of never using my LB. Unless they make new job specific LBs like they said they would. Warrior should have some crazy ass frenzy or something. Seems like a wasted effort to be still.

Meanwhile, paladins will probably get...more damage mitigation! so exciting

I'll carry you with my lich tramain~

we need to make a dota 2 linkshell...and speaking of linkshells, whatever happened to the pokemon one

Just remember there are no winners arguing on the Internet.

 

[Teknoman]

Wait what happens to myth again?

 

[Item Box]

Wait what happens to myth again?

Same thing that happened to philo, you can convert them into soldiery

 

[Kagari]

Wait what happens to myth again?

You can exchange it for Soldiery.

 

[Mr. Bubble]

Why hello there. There's a better-than-average chance you've seen my Lalafell running around the game world.

I think I've seen your name around! Although all Lalafells look the same to me. #notracist

Still no patch notes...it's like they want me to do something productive.

They are likely doing cross-language patch note checks to avoid another huge mistake like with the 2.4 prelim notes. It's needed, but I liked when they put up the patch notes shortly after they start the long maintenance.

 

[phierce]

Wait what happens to myth again?

2:1 exchange to Soldiery.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

More so we can take as much time to re watch the mechanics and learn the fight faster so we don't have to rush to clear on the final weekend before patch.

We only do roughly less than 6 hours a week in coil typically. However, our latest clear showed me is that a dedicated, extended length session is way better than many short ones in terms of learning and progressing. You point out we lose focus at 2 hours, but I'd argue sometime after that we get more focused. Most of our clears came after going beyond our normal 2 hour session.

Raiding this sort of content, where everything follows a fairly static script, it's no surprise going at it for a long period of time at once would yield better results. Most of this type of content can be beaten by sheer repetition until most of the "thinking" disapears and becomes reflex. Though taking a break can also have positive effects assuming you go back like, the day after, lots of clears on the first or 2nd pull of the day after a whole day of bashing your head against a fight, because everyone is rested but still retains the reflexes acquired the day before.

Not really healthy though, but it's a good way to get kills. Back when I cared about raiding, during wow, most of our progress on challenging stuff would come on weekends when we could extend the normal 3-4hours raid times into 5-8hours and really go at it for a while. Having a clear goal for that particular day also helps people focus/not give up.

 

[Sophia]

I think I've seen your name around! Although all Lalafells look the same to me. #notracist

I've definitely seen you before, and how rude! We are not all the same!

I am clearly the cutest and most elegant looking Lalafell on Adamantoise.

 

[HylianScribe]

Raiding this sort of content, where everything follows a fairly static script, it's no surprise going at it for a long period of time at once would yield better results. Most of this type of content can be beaten by sheer repetition until most of the "thinking" disapears and becomes reflex. Though taking a break can also have positive effects assuming you go back like, the day after, lots of clears on the first or 2nd pull of the day after a whole day of bashing your head against a fight, because everyone is rested but still retains the reflexes acquired the day before.

Not really healthy though, but it's a good way to get kills. Back when I cared about raiding, during wow, most of our progress on challenging stuff would come on weekends when we could extend the normal 3-4hours raid times into 5-8hours and really go at it for a while. Having a clear goal for that particular day also helps people focus/not give up.

It doesn't have to be like 6 hours like a lot of us dealt with this past weekend. I was feeling a bit strained from that much consecutive play on one battle, so I would say maybe like 3-4 hours, or two 2-hour sessions? The breaks should be mandatory for various reasons, and I feel like every 2-3 hours you should take 15-20 minute break. I know I keep going back to Titan EX, but I felt like going in there 3-4 hours a night for two weeks changed me from being intimidated and frustrated to extremely confident. Being confident in these battles is also a key. When you've seen the phase enough, and been to near the end enough, you are on the brink of achieving that. It just takes brute force, IMO, to push through that last barrier. Once you've cleared it, the mental hurdle is gone. However, you have to get back in there sooner rather than later, otherwise you lose that edge.

 

[gryvan]

we need to make a dota 2 linkshell...and speaking of linkshells, whatever happened to the pokemon one

actually there are several people(lets say 5) who play dota 2 in mumble :O

Also pokemon LS died

 

[Pyros_Eien]

It doesn't have to be like 6 hours like a lot of us dealt with this past weekend. I was feeling a bit strained from that much consecutive play on one battle, so I would say maybe like 3-4 hours, or two 2-hour sessions? The breaks should be mandatory for various reasons, and I feel like every 2-3 hours you should take 15-20 minute break. I know I keep going back to Titan EX, but I felt like going in there 3-4 hours a night for two weeks changed me from being intimidated and frustrated to extremely confident. Being confident in these battles is also a key. When you've seen the phase enough, and been to near the end enough, you are on the brink of achieving that. It just takes brute force, IMO, to push through that last barrier. Once you've cleared it, the mental hurdle is gone. However, you have to get back in there sooner rather than later, otherwise you lose that edge.

And when you have done a fight enough it goes like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLRsSaKA1TM

 

[Isaccard]

WHERES MY PATCH NOTES AND CASH SHOP YOSHI

 

[Wilsongt]

lol @ 48h streams

 

[zeitgeist]

2:1 exchange to Soldiery.

Oh crazy, I didn't know they were phasing out Myth tomes now.

Are Soldiery going to be easier to come by now and Poetics will take the spot of Soldiery?

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Oh crazy, I didn't know they were phasing out Myth tomes now.

Are Soldiery going to be easier to come by now and Poetics will take the spot of Soldiery?

Basically everything that rewarded Myth/Sold now rewards Sold/Poetics at the same rate, it seems. Myth is being traded for Sold similar to Philo before(and Philo are entirely removed from the UI). They also nerfed a bunch of prices down due to the change even though technically you get the same amount of sold as you did myth, I guess for consistency or whatever. For example the relic stuff is cheaper now. Especially the animus books are only 500soldiery instead of 1500myth, which is a huge boost and Mysterious maps are 400sold instead of 800myth which also helps a lot.

 

[Talaysen]

Basically everything that rewarded Myth/Sold now rewards Sold/Poetics at the same rate, it seems. Myth is being traded for Sold similar to Philo before(and Philo are entirely removed from the UI). They also nerfed a bunch of prices down due to the change even though technically you get the same amount of sold as you did myth, I guess for consistency or whatever. For example the relic stuff is cheaper now. Especially the animus books are only 500soldiery instead of 1500myth, which is a huge boost and Mysterious maps are 400sold instead of 800myth which also helps a lot.

You get less soldiery than the myth you got before.

 

[Pyros_Eien]

You get less soldiery than the myth you got before.

Do you? The only 2 examples they used in the prelim patch notes, the rewards of beastmen tribes daily and treasure hunts were a 1:1 conversion. Are dungeons going to get a worse conversion? They don't mention any conversion rate for these, just that you'll now get soldiery instead of myth.

Edit: There is the hullbreaker rewards shown in the DF changes, and it's only 35soldiery, though it's hard to extrapolate the values on the new dungeons out of this. It's also funny cause you got more soldiery before the change from it than now. The new dungeons I guess would be 50 soldiery, so myth maps would be about the same and only books get a small boost, assuming you get most soldiery from dungeons. Wonder if hunts will reward 40soldiery instead of 80.

 

[Talaysen]

Do you? The only 2 examples they used in the prelim patch notes, the rewards of beastmen tribes daily and treasure hunts were a 1:1 conversion. Are dungeons going to get a worse conversion? They don't mention any conversion rate for these, just that you'll now get soldiery instead of myth.

There's a screenshot showing Hullbreaker Isle giving 35 soldiery and 20 poetics. Before 2.4 it gave 100 myth and 45 soldiery, so we get even less soldiery in 2.4 compared to 2.3, which is pretty stupid.

 

[aceface]

There's a screenshot showing Hullbreaker Isle giving 35 soldiery and 20 poetics. Before 2.4 it gave 100 myth and 45 soldiery, so we get even less soldiery in 2.4 compared to 2.3, which is pretty stupid.

Hahaha whaaaat if true, glad I capped myth before patch.

 

[WolvenOne]

Hahaha whaaaat if true, glad I capped myth before patch.

Almost certainly true. That's roughly how much Myth/Soldiery you'd get in patch 2.2. That's partly why it was so difficult to grind out things like Animus, Novus, Etc. It wasn't until patch 2.3 that Myth and soldiery started raining from the sky.

 

[evilpigking]

There's a screenshot showing Hullbreaker Isle giving 35 soldiery and 20 poetics. Before 2.4 it gave 100 myth and 45 soldiery, so we get even less soldiery in 2.4 compared to 2.3, which is pretty stupid.

So? It's no longer the highest end content. Qarn Hard, Sastas hard, and snow cloak will prob give 100 and 45.

The rewards for doing the older dungeons is always reduced with the new. Cept for Wanderer's Palace which switched from tomes to gil in that no one does it so relic precursors went up in value

 

[Trojita]

Make Atma easier to get. Make Animus as hard or harder than it was before. GG Squenix.

 

[evilpigking]

Make Atma easier to get. Make Animus as hard or harder than it was before. GG Squenix.

? Animus is way easier to get. The books are 33% the cost they were previously.

 

[Trojita]

? Animus is way easier to get. The books are 33% the cost they were previously.

Dat soldiery cost.

 

[Kagari]

Dat soldiery cost.

Just get the T9 weapon at this point.

 

[Wilsongt]

Aaaaargh. FFXIV DTs. Need my Hildibrand and Ultros minion

 

[Pyros_Eien]

Yeah Animus would be easier regardless, because it's only 33%. Worst case assuming new dungeons are 50soldiery, that's still 10dungeon runs for 500soldiery per book vs 15 runs at 100myth per run in 2.3 for the 1500books. Maps though were 8runs before and would be 8runs after, so the cost reduction here would have no effect other than keeping the price the same. Daillies might provide the same bonus as before though, maybe, which would make doing trials/low level/high level roulettes worth it. Kinda.

 

[WolvenOne]

Lets see how much Soldiery people get from roulette's and hunts, before we declare Animus books, "Teh supah hard," to get.

 

[Wilsongt]

Lets see how much Soldiery people get from roulette's and hunts, before we declare Animus books, "Teh supah hard," to get.

They aren't that hard to get.

Thankfully, I have enough Myth and Sol saved up to be able to finish off my Veil of WiiU Animus

 

[Stuart444]

I was hoping to sleep and wake up for the patch but that isn't going to happen. Tried for the past 3 hours to get to sleep. I hate insomnia :/.

So guess I'm either staying awake all night/day or staying awake til 12 and get some sleep while my partner is out for 3 or 4 hours.

Either way, don't plan on missing the initial rush of excitement for the patch

edit: Is the PS4 update out yet? Since I think that's due to come out today (or is it tomorrow?)

 

[ThinFinn]

First thing I'm gonna do is check out the new hairstyles!

 

[dark_chris]

First thing I'm gonna do is check out the new hairstyles!

Here here!

 

[Teknoman]

So tomorrow we should be able to update and play just fine...riiight...?

 

[Wilsongt]

So tomorrow we should be able to update and play just fine...riiight...?

 

[LaneDS]

Is the belief that the Zodiac weapons will further be upgradeable in the expansion? Wondering how far they'll go with those.

 

[WolvenOne]

Is the belief that the Zodiac weapons will further be upgradeable in the expansion? Wondering how far they'll go with those.

Probably won't be able to upgrade weapons in 2.4, but, maybe 2.4.1, most definitely by 2.4.5

 

[cloudzack117]

so they are finally increasing atma drop rates? i may need to resub lol, though with the ninja in i have no hopes of getting my brd through any ques lol. also they are phasing out myth tomes?

 

[Stuart444]

Is the belief that the Zodiac weapons will further be upgradeable in the expansion? Wondering how far they'll go with those.

Regardless of how far they go, we'll know they are done when we get to the Zodiac part of the weapons lol.

I assumed they would try and finish them by the expansion since they seem to be tying up many of the stories (Coil, CT, Hilde, etc) before 3.0. So might as well tie up the Zodiac storyline as well.