tiggerkiddo
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That armor is the Divine set, comes from Hullbreaker, Stone Vigil HM and Tam Tara HM. Good luck seeing it drop.
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Final Fantasy XIV |OT6| Casino Royale
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Unknown Soldier
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People were making fun of me when I complained in FC chat. So I wanted the opinion of the community. So far the consensus opinion with the exception of Elliott seems to be that I'm complaining about a non-issue and that I'm being silly. So now I know it's okay to spoil anything I want in FC chat.
Can you post the entire FC chat at the time? We need context.
No, all you said was the following after my accidental spoiler:
[FC]<Ilyasviel Einzbern> please continue to spoil T13 in open FC chat
[FC]<Ilyasviel Einzbern> and fuck off
You then posted it in the OT and that's when people began making fun of you. My intention wasn't to spoil the turn for anyone. I was talking about a mechanic without thinking it may be a spoiler and you were the only one to make a rude comment towards me so I couldn't help but shrug it off.
It wasn't even my intention to make fun of you, I'm just befuddled that you'd post the spoiler here even after acknowledging how incredibly shitty you felt it was to get spoiled yourself.
It's less like getting spoiled on the ending of Interstellar out of the blue, and more like standing outside a showing for nine weeks straight and finding out critical plot details from people talking about it in passing as they're walking out of the theater. I get it: it sucks, and people should be more aware of their surroundings. But it's not worth getting this angry over.
Now someone please hand me an L for this post.
It's less like getting spoiled on the ending of Interstellar out of the blue, and more like standing outside a showing for nine weeks straight and finding out critical plot details from people talking about it in passing as they're walking out of the theater. I get it: it sucks, and people should be more aware of their surroundings. But it's not worth getting this angry over.
Now someone please hand me an L for this post.
It wasn't even my intention to make fun of you, I'm just befuddled that you'd post the spoiler here even after acknowledging how incredibly shitty you felt it was to get spoiled yourself.
It's less like getting spoiled on the ending of Interstellar out of the blue, and more like standing outside a showing for nine weeks straight and finding out critical plot details from people talking about it in passing as they're walking out of the theater. I get it: it sucks, and people should be more aware of their surroundings. But it's not worth getting this angry over.
Now someone please hand me an L for this post.
*nods in agreement*
Pyros_Eien
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The fight is pretty easy once you know what to do, but it's fairly confusing at first and there's quite a lot of mechanics to take in, and a lot of paying attention to do. The semi random elements and the unsynced phases(permafrost and icicles not repeating in the same order until a few cycles, making it seem "random") are especially bad, plus obviously the fact the damage is pretty high on about everything and that the tanks also have to avoid mechanics.
I definitely wouldn't expect a DF clear to be too easy for Shiva. I'd say for the primals, it rates 3rd, behind Titan and Ramuh. If you play with people who know what's going on though, due to every death being recoverable(well mostly), it's actually one of the easiest and it's short too, so it's very nice to farm.
I bled myself dry getting that bard and tank set. I still have my DRG set but sold off my MNK set of it. I have a few of the caster pieces and probably had the whole healer set at one point in time. Dedication to shit gear, man. I got it.
tiggerkiddo
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Glamour is true endgame
Thanks for posting said spoiler in the OT
Unknown Soldier
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Rude comment? Really? It didn't ever occur to you even once that maybe I actually was pissed and maybe you should just apologize? Even after Felix found me a very short time later and wondered if I was pissed in a chat you could see and I told him I was, you didn't seem to give a fuck. If you had just said "Oh sorry my bad I didn't mean to spoil that shit" then I would have been fine with it and probably forgotten about it by now. I honestly don't get your thinking here at all and I'm not sure how to get through to you at this point either.
tiggerkiddo
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For crying out loud, just drop it. This OT has enough drama as is.
QisTopTier
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Did you know the expansion takes place in Ishgard!?
IonicSnake
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Don't know if it's been posted already but if anyone's interested there is a free FFXIV PS4 theme in the JP PS store. Easiest way to find it is to log in to your JP user, go to the Theme settings and click the Store icon there, it will take you directly to the theme. It's pretty great, it got the Waking Sands music playing.
Pellegri Testament
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Wonder what happened to being civil about complaints and just asking the person yourself to please stop talking about it because you wanted to be surprised. Instead it seems that very few are even capable of that and feel the need to blow everything up before even attempting to show some restraint and just talk it out with said person.
And no, I am not wanting "well dammnnnn" responses to this post. I'm not trying to make it worse by singling anyone out, because it's rarely been just a single person that keeps this shit going due to not being able to be an adult about things.
And no, I am not wanting "well dammnnnn" responses to this post. I'm not trying to make it worse by singling anyone out, because it's rarely been just a single person that keeps this shit going due to not being able to be an adult about things.
QisTopTier
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I think 67 to get your relic, and 70 to start doing syc tower... or is it 80?
Pyros_Eien
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57 for relic(well 57 for titan, I assume some of the early stuff is lower), 70 for syrcus.
I think the best way to gear up, though I'm not 100% sure, would be to buy a full set of militia i55 green stuff and get the GC weapon(finish GC quests and stuff first) which gives an overall i55 and the cost wouldn't be too high for a new player, then run the i55 required dungeons, halatali/brayflox/amdapor to get a decent bit of gear there, as well as finish the relic and upgrade to zenith. Kinda have to do that until i70, using your soldiery to increase ilvl(most efficient would be jewelry first since it's the cheapest slots and the ilvl average is the same regardless).
Another route would be to find someone who can spot you a bit of money and invest in a few spiritbinding sets, then bind them, sell them, reinvest and so on, building up money, and just buying an i70 set of gear right away, doing the relic quest and skipping the low dungeon farming. Though with the current max relic step requiring dungeon runs, the queues might be decent and you can get carried by i120 people. If you're into crafting, you could also level your own crafting to make the money and/or the sets, though obviously that's a much slower route.
Pellegri Testament
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Would honestly just go with an upgraded Shiva weapon or 110 tomestone from ST if you really want to get ahead. Weapon is by far the biggest upgrade you could go with over any piece of gear if you're sitting with an ilvl 90 wep.
QisTopTier
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^Atma is 100
You can pretty much do up to t8/shiva extreme already.
T9 should be doable as well but try to get a 110+ weapon first
You can pretty much do up to t8/shiva extreme already.
T9 should be doable as well but try to get a 110+ weapon first
Pyros_Eien
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No you shouldn't wait. It's the way it is, Firestarter only procs like .5secs after you're finished casting, so if you're chain casting you'll always cast Fire III after the next Fire I, which means sometimes it procs again and wastes the second proc. Can't do much about that, that's how it goes. Potential exception is on the last Fire I before you swap to cold, you can pop a cooldown(Mana Wall, Raging Strikes, Surecast etc) to see if it proced to use it while you still have full fire. It's a small DPS increase, unless you have terrible luck and it never procs then it's a DPS loss though personally I don't like the idea of using cooldowns I might need later on just to see if it proced. You can choose to ignore that, keep the Firestarter proc and once you've done Blizzard3 and Thunder 1/2 you Convert back to fire then Firestart proc, which is still 1 stack of astral fire so it hits for a decent amount.
tiggerkiddo
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It's kinda an empty i100 weapon until you obtain all the books.
Pellegri Testament
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Until you finish all the books, it has the weapon dmg of an ilvl 90 though, and those stat upgrades through books really aren't that much.
Don't wait. Finish your cast and then use Firestarter after.
Since we're talking about Firestarter, if you get a Thunderstruck don't use it right away. Cast a Fire I first [to see if you get a Firestarter proc] and then use the Thunderstruck afterwards as a "buffer" between the two spells. That way you could cast a Fire I, use a Thunderstruck [and immediately get a Firestarter proc from your previous Fire I], use Firestarter, and then resume your Fire I rotation.
Also, if you get a Firestarter proc just as you switch to Umbral Ice III, when you reach full mana Transpose back into Astral Fire I first before using your Firestarter proc. You'll do a lot more damage that way.
tiggerkiddo
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Would be nice if they let us stack two firestarter procs
I think that'd give BLM too easy movement.
It would.
A while back when they were discussing BLM buffs, that's what many [myself included] wanted. It would also help with movement for us, since we could potentially "save" a Firestarter proc in case we had to make a quick move somewhere. Sure, Aetherial Manipulation helps with this, but when the area you need to move requires being free of other people [such as Earthshaker in T13], you can't exactly simply aetherial to someone's present location.
Edit - And Ken likely described the reason why we never got it. Same with Surecast allowing spells to be cast while moving [yet another "fix" proposed by a few people].
Thanks for the tips
That Transpose idea when you get Firestarter after you cast Blizzard III is great. I didn't know what to do when that happened, so I waiting a sec after the last Fire I to see if I should cast Blizzard or Fire III.
BLM is really fun, even more after you reach lvl44.
That Transpose idea when you get Firestarter after you cast Blizzard III is great. I didn't know what to do when that happened, so I waiting a sec after the last Fire I to see if I should cast Blizzard or Fire III.
BLM is really fun, even more after you reach lvl44.
crazygambit
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Dungeons are still the best way to get some of the mats and the reason prices aren't completely outrageous. Think of Schelite for example. It's around 9k on the MB, yet it costs 9000 GC seals (1500 buys you 10k-20k mats nowadays), 6 Oaknots (8 buy you a sealant that sells for 190k-200k). So without dungeons prices would be insane, so I'm glad they're keeping them.
This. Remove those useless mats and keep the ones that are actually needed.
Crafter and Gatherer gear of course. Such a money pit.
Last night I got my Leatherworker off-hand (100% first try!). I feel my 3 star rotation kicks ass. I'm only 4 FC III from my Supra, I think I'll try to HQ the turn ins anyway in case I get lucky with goods and excellents for my Master II book.
The life of a crafter is so expensive though. I feel like I need at least 10 more million to get all my classes to 4 star and that's not even counting gatherers, which would require a massive investment to get up to par.
cultureculture
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T9 trauma still strong in this one.
Dungeons shouldn't be used as a tool for economy stability outside of the pleb tier gil drops in them already. Crafting materials shouldn't be replacing gear as loot drops, period. Either put them in their own chests, with gear drops, or add them as random drops from certain mobs in addition with gil. As you said, you can already buy them with GC seals from their respective vendors, so your reasoning behind why this shit is still in dungeons makes no sense to me.
crazygambit
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I disagree. Why not? It's a decent avenue for money for people that don't craft or spiritbond, though I agree with your point on putting them in their own chests.
Buying Schelite and the like with GC seals today might as well not even exists. It would be beyond stupid to spend the 9k seals to do it, when you can sell the 1.5k mats for more on the MB. Same with Oaknots. So for better or worse, the only viable way to obtain those mats right now, is through dungeons.
Why not just spend the seals? Before the Zodiac quest, what was anyone doing with them? Funnel players who can't be bother to learn crafting or spiritbonding in mind numbing fates and GC leves to earn the currency to buy what you want. They don't belong in dungeons if they are going to be replacing gear drops.
Crafting/Spiritbonding are easily much more viable ways to earn gil. If everyone is running dungeons and selling the same mats on the marketboard, how much money are you really making? There's way too many sinks and fountains are non existent beyond content selling (purchased with RMT, unless everyone buying T9 and Extreme's is a super crafter, which also in turn is causing the ridiculous amount of inflation on Ultros right now, your server may vary.), crafting (which in itself is an expensive invesment to get into before you start to see any kind of return), Spiritbonding and Gathering, the latter two being the easiest to do, and how I've personally made x million of gil.
They way they did it with Coil 1-5 is how it should have been from the start with dungeons. Gear and the expensive materials everyone desires. As it stands right now in dungeons is ridiculous.
But hey, I'm no economist
Man, spent most of my weekend break playing DA:I and jesus christ. It's fun but mechanics are basically single play MMO with the worst possible DF group as party members you could imagine. If you think DRG eat a ton of AoEs you should see this game's party.
Anyway, I finally used my mog costume code.
Jesus christ how hideous.
Anyway, I finally used my mog costume code.
Jesus christ how hideous.
So at the risk of being serious for five seconds: I am seriously impressed with how well you and others have been taking advantage of the lockout removal. After a couple of weeks of it going unused, last weekend's first round of final coil stuff and this week's PSN-failure-inspired T10 blitz (and hopefully 11 and maybe 12 for the advanced class tonight) is demonstrating the utility of a feature that most people initially reacted to with "who would want to cut their loot?"
A lot of people are putting in serious time wiping in stuff they've already cleared this week to help other people for literally no personal benefit; for all the bullshit and backbiting that happens in this thread, Ultros GAF is actually pretty cool.
irfaanator
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I caught a bit of the what looked like a launch fiasco earlier yesterday, but it seems like apollo10 made a succesfull take off in the end
2 chest are better than one, but one is better than 0. Some people don't have statics, some statics can't clear a particular turn that week. My thanks to all the people that help, I hope you are at least getting some experience from this (not that you need it).
We died at 10% and a 2% before we got the kill. But it was all worth it for the healer hat for Qhon's subclass.
We died at 10% and a 2% before we got the kill. But it was all worth it for the healer hat for Qhon's subclass.
Assuming we can get 4 DPS capable of pushing it, T12 might actually be the easiest of the three so far since it's just burden of knowledge otherwise. I really want to test that theory.
The first week it was added, a lot of us were down to help people but couldn't really find those who wanted to give it a shot (+ some skepticism on actually clearing it, see T6-9 after unlocked). I also think a lot of us were busy with our Zodiacs that first week lol.
But, yeah, it's been a lot of fun and it really does help groups out. And it's not even like people are really losing too much loot since we've done so many that many statics that had holiday / PSN issues managed to get their entire group in there for multiple chests.
Little does everyone know, this is all a plan for Qhon to get all the Final Coil hats.
Someone in the Destiny OT said that you don't have to pay for the monthly fee if you already subscribe to PS+ on the PS4, just wanting to check if this is really true? If it is, I think I'm going to buy the game immediately, because the monthly fee has been the only thing keeping me from this...
Endless-Bravado
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Someone in the Destiny OT said that you don't have to pay for the monthly fee if you already subscribe to PS+ on the PS4, just wanting to check if this is really true? If it is, I think I'm going to buy the game immediately, because the monthly fee has been the only thing keeping me from this...
Not true at all. If you buy the game you'll get a free 30 day trial but after that you have to pay a monthly sub, PS+ or no. Perhaps that person meant you don't need PS+ in order to play FFXIV. Since PS+ is required to play other games online.
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