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Final Fantasy XV - Everything we know so far - [Up: Character artwork/descriptions]
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That is one nice looking game!
Between this and the mistranslation about Toriyama working on KH3, it's clear that their translator has a big problem with idioms.
Exentryk
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Fixed. Thanks.
Also, is the translation "immortal shogun" correct, for Cor? Someone mentioned "Undying General" is more apt.
PlanetSmasher
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One thing we can definitely glean from all of this is that, if the insignia coincides with that nation's guardian, then Niflheim's summon is almost definitely going to end up being Bahamut.
Regarding the cross insignia, I think that's actually a sword. I still think Grumps McOldbeard is from Tenebrae and their guardian is going to be Odin. Especially considering Stella's family name means "sword", and the insignia surrounding the sword is black and has horns.
immortal shogun is basically undying general in Japanese. maybe Immortal General would be the best English translation?
PlanetSmasher
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I see the skull too, but I'm not really sure if that's helpful or not - the design is mostly shadowed over. Has anyone been able to get a good shot of the insignia on the back of Gladiolus' jacket? That might be a clue too.
I personally think that, considering Lucis is the Kingdom of Light, it will probably end up having Alexander as its guardian in all likelihood. The tech level would definitely support that theory.
Shadow Ranger
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Yep, it's more of a wolf (Fenrir?)
The Lucis skull thing on the banner reminds me of Anima and in a bizarre way, Diablos. It could be anything at this point - something new would be nice, too
PlanetSmasher
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Could it not also be Odin. Light = thunder?
The skull-helmet reminds me of the XIV concept art of him:
It's possible, given the fact that Lucis royals have power over swords, and Odin was also the guardian spirit of Baron in FFIV. But at the same time, Grumps Mackenzie's insignia seems to literally be a sword surrounded by black armor with a horned helmet. THAT feels very Odin to me.
Additionally, Odin is almost always a pain in the ass to recruit in most FF games. It'd be odd if he's the hero's guardian spirit - they almost always make you work to get him.
Maybe Lucis has an entirely new guardian summon we haven't seen before, or maybe he's one of the less common summons like Thanatos, Anima or Diabolos. Though the Kingdom of Light having Diablos, Anima or Thanatos as a summon would be kind of bizarre and ironic...
Yeah I never noticed it till recently myself. I haven't seen the insignia but will try to take look.
That has been my thinking as well given Alexander's general appearance. I'm curious when we might get more info on summons..
Could it not also be Odin. Light = thunder?
The skull-helmet reminds me of the XIV concept art of him:
Hmm, that's a possibility too as there are certain resemblences. The sword motif with their powers work with that as well to a degree.
PlanetSmasher
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Actually...I almost wonder if the Lucis insignia is meant to evoke Etro. The painting of Etro we've seen shows her with horns pointing downward like on the banner, and in the XV universe Etro is considered a death goddess. Hmmm.
TheJollyCorner
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just want to pop in and say great work here, Exentryk.
Really interesting details all around.
Can't wait to see more of the world.
If controllable airships are still in (I've heard yes, then no, then yes... so I'm confused), a part of me definitely wants to wait to see it in motion until I play the game. Not sure if my will power can withstand it, though.
Really interesting details all around.
Can't wait to see more of the world.
If controllable airships are still in (I've heard yes, then no, then yes... so I'm confused), a part of me definitely wants to wait to see it in motion until I play the game. Not sure if my will power can withstand it, though.
That is a possibility as well though a curious one that they would have a goddess representing them when the others appear to have their potential guardians as symbols. Unless Etro has a unique connection with Licis that we aren't aware of yet.
Could be? That could also mean that the dragon might be a serpent instead inferring to Lindzei?
Meccanical
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Who told you no?
Why would they cut anything when moving to a more powerful platform?
Catchafire2000
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Do not want.
PlanetSmasher
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I doubt it. I don't think Lindzei and all the other gods are going to figure into XV. Etro is important because Noctis and Stella have powers related to death. The dragon on the Niflheim posters and insignia is definitely meant to evoke Bahamut.
I guess we'll find out soon. I would like it to be Alexander if only because I would love to pilot that thing like Voltron.
I honestly think that, if the sigil of Kingdom X is referring to a mythos character, it would make little sense to make another kingdoms sigil refer to a summon instead. Either all of them refer to their respective guardians of their kingdoms (Nomura did say summons would be back in an unexpected way), or they'll refer to another series of related characters.
I feel the rivalry of the kingdoms would be better emphasized if they represent characters/entities naturally occurring together.
PlanetSmasher
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Well, they could very well end up making Etro a summon. But I agree, if all of the other nations have a classic summon as their guardian, it'd be kind of odd to have Lucis have something entirely different.
They made her a lot younger looking, it seems. Hopefully her character model doesn't reflect that.
Having each have a being or god of some sort as their symbol would certainly be interesting as it might also explain motives to a degree if it informs their viewpoints and culture.
I've also been thinking on Noctis and Stella's powers. Other than that whole thing about seeing dying light and such we don't know what other things they may have been granted through it. I've wondered if perhaps Noctis' teleporting might be an example but it could also be the crystal.
We do know that the powers were apparently gained from a near death experience so I wonder if they both gains their powers at the same time, perhaps in some accident when they were playing as children where an accident happened.
I've also been thinking on Noctis and Stella's powers. Other than that whole thing about seeing dying light and such we don't know what other things they may have been granted through it. I've wondered if perhaps Noctis' teleporting might be an example but it could also be the crystal.
We do know that the powers were apparently gained from a near death experience so I wonder if they both gains their powers at the same time, perhaps in some accident when they were playing as children where an accident happened.
I'm really curious to see if "eyes that see expiring souls" work the same way as (XIII-2 spoiler)
And also whether or not they are going to call Noctis a l'Cie, since that is essentially what he is, or if they're only bringing Etro back and nothing else.
Serah and Yuel's Eyes of Etro, i.e. everytime they see a glimpse of the future, their life is shortened?
And also whether or not they are going to call Noctis a l'Cie, since that is essentially what he is, or if they're only bringing Etro back and nothing else.
Seems plausible.
Niflheim ice crystal confirmed!
If you watch the 2011 trailer, while the group is fighting the guards in the dinning rooms, there is some dialogue without subtitles. I can only make the world "crystal". Is this dialogue the same or similar to the one in the new trailer?
I can't believe how uninterested I am in details surrounding the story, characters and locations. I checked out the gameplay thread and didn't have a problem with it. My brain is probably throwing up some kind of defensive mechanism, so I don't spoil damn near every aspect of the story before the game comes out... like with 13.
All I want it a release date. That's what it's solely come down to now.
All I want it a release date. That's what it's solely come down to now.
well considering that type-0 l'cie werent the sme as FFXIII ones i dont expect them to be the same in XV, yeah there will be similar concepts but they will basically be different interpretations of them
True, I had completely forgotten that Type-0 l'cie differed from XIII l'cie.
birthbysleep
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Seems like assassins creed hood guy is the same long haired guy Noctis walks up to looking real angry in the old trailer.
Thinking maybe hes Noctis's direct rival? Maybe Idola's son since they're both rocking the white look.
Thinking maybe hes Noctis's direct rival? Maybe Idola's son since they're both rocking the white look.
I thought Noctis unwilling rival/love was Stella. Meh, I don't know.
I want Stella to be the main rival for first half of the game, but she joins Noctis in the second half and The hooded guy is the main rival.
I really want this to happen so I can have Stella on the party.
PshycoNinja
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Anything from XIII is Toriyama's interpretation of the mythos.
Nomura isn't going to take elements from XIII. This is Nomura's vision. So far what we have gathered, they are only using Etro from the mythos in this game. And even the interpretation of what Etro is and does is different in both games.
Dr.Thunder
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I was really excited by the initial announcement like a lot of others were but so far the playable cast is really disappointing me. Not really feeling it.
Nomura's intepretation? That makes sense. I think I get how it works now, then. xD
I'm a bit slow at times, I guess.
Maybe a brother to Stella, maybe a son to Idola, maybe both.
I'm feeling the opposite, actually. I'm always excited when a FF comes by that doesn't have a ditzy-over-the-top character (e.g. Eiko, Vanille, Riku, etc). So far they all seem to be grounded and just like any ordinary guys.
But to be fair we haven't really seen much of their personalities, so far I'm going off initial impressions.
I'm with you. These characters are incredibly well designed.
AgentLampshade
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Unnamed character 3 looks like Grey De-Lisle. I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed if she ended up voiced by her.
Brother would work as a good Hamlet parallel. Son of Idola works the rival angle well too. With that one, maybe Stella could be engaged to him? Or not. That might be too obvious.
PlanetSmasher
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Speaking of Mysterious Hood Man...I think this may be the first time we've seen his whole face.
Look at the facial structure of the dude in the background; it definitely lines up with the face we've seen before, even if they clearly redesigned his cloak from the original FMV trailer that showed him fighting Noctis in the crystal chamber. Also, either his head is really tiny or that cloak is REALLY bulky. It looks kind of comical.
But yeah, if we're going on the Hamlet trajectory, he pretty much has to be Stella's brother so the story has a Laertes. He could also be her fiancee or husband, but the fact they're both blonde makes me think siblings.
Yeah, he's at 2:40 in the announcement trailer in that image and I'm positive that's the guy.
I think it's the cloak moreso than him, though maybe the angle we're seeing the image at is making it weird. Also note that he's pointing his gun at Regis, but doesn't appear to be pointing anything at the guy we think might be Regis' brother.
Yeah, it would provide that point of contention if he doesn't like Noctis for one reason or another. I'd say fiancee rather than husband if they go that route. Either one provides potential conflict.
If he is her brother, then that raises questions on why he seems really in with Niflheim and Idola, though we don't exactly know the nature of their relationships with other countries.
On a side note, was the whole meeting between Lucis and Niflheim taking place in that Lucis city or at the water city? If the latter, I'd guess the idea was for a neutral ground for the meeting. Either way it seems the whole thing was a ruse on the part of Niflheim.
PlanetSmasher
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I am willing to bet money that Hood Guy is the real main antagonist of the game, and Idola dies early on. If he's Stella's brother, he probably found out about what happens when one country gains control of all the crystals and decides to take them for himself. That would explain why he's shown fighting Noctis later on in the same room. It would likely also mean that he and Noctis knew each other when they were kids, and it's possible they were either friends or rivals back then, which explains why Noctis doesn't like him.
It would also add a degree of conflict for Stella as a character - she knows her brother is doing evil things, but because of their family connection he's able to manipulate her. If he's her fiancee, I can't see her putting up with that for long.
As for the meeting, I believe it was confirmed a long while back that the meeting room Idola and Regis are confronting each other in is in the Lucis clan headquarters, where the original trailer for the game took place and where Noctis gets ambushed on the front steps. We've seen gameplay footage of Team Noctbro fighting Niflheim soldiers in that very room back in the original gameplay trailer.
Hmm, possibly. The initial villain is usually never the guy who turns out to be the final villain, though when I think on it more that isn't entirely true for the more recent FF games. There usually seems to be some otherworldly force or being that's behind everything or an antagonist has gained great power. So this guy could end up being the main antagonistic force or he could be more of a Seifer like character who works with the main antagonist. Them knowing one another from childhood does provide a good angle to explore if they give us flashbacks with the two of them and such.
There is that as well, though we should also factor in that there seems to be some outside force with some control over her that forces her against Noctis at some point. Perhaps a being opposed to Etro? Though I was under the impression that she and Noctis had the same powers and as such derived them from the same source.
Ah, alright. They were showing lines and scenes out of context so I was having trouble keeping everything straight. I wasn't entirely sure how much stock could be put in some of the old gameplay footage, though information suggests a lot of it may stay the same or nearly so.
I'm almost certain that the old cape-guy is the king of Nilfhelm and old robe-guy is actually someone from Lucis betraying his own king. If I don't remember completely incorrectly, there is supposed to be some Yakuza/Mafia-stuff going on in XV/Lucis as well, not just these Kings and invading countries thing. So it might be that there's some small part of Lucis that want to get rid of the line of King's in the country and are in cahoots with Nilfhelm.
IIRC, being able to see the expiring light of souls (or whatever) is a "power" that people who have experienced a near-death-experience get in XV's world, for some reason, and it has something to do with the Amano-illustrated God of Death (who everyone worships in XV's world). Probably something like "they get so near to the kingdom of the dead that they are influenced by it"
Huh, I hadn't considered that the old guy could actually be someone from Lucis. I thought that the grumpy guy was either a general or the king with the old guy being some high up guy for Niflheim. Or maybe some head mage.
birthbysleep
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I don't think Hood Guy is that character because although the coat is similar, I don't think the hair matches (unless they changed it).
Old trailer:
XV Trailer:
I don't think Hood Guy is that character because although the coat is similar, I don't think the hair matches (unless they changed it).
Old trailer:
XV Trailer:
Redesign possibly.
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