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Final Fantasy XV |OT| There and back again.

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Joqu

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I'm feeling dumb here. I remember reading control scheme discussions a while ago now, way before release, and coming to the conclusion that I ought to pick a non-default one for gameplay reasions. But I've just been sticking to the default so far because I don't remember why one of the alternatives seemed superior and I can't figure it out because it's 4am

I like having warp on triangle so B doesn't look too appealing
 
I'm in a level 55 dungeon with everyone at 60 and with food buffs. It still poses a challenge which is good.
The amount of enemies on screen at a time can be pretty impressive and also overwhelming. It takes time but learning the nuances of different monsters is needed to approach combat with finesse.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I enjoyed Kingsglaive a lot. I got exactly what I wanted out of it (an early taste of the FFXV world and pretty warp-related combat), and the story itself was not bad. The refugee story was pretty interesting.

I'm glad they're going to be inserting more of Kingsglaive into the game to make it make sense.
 

Griss

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I enjoyed what I played in the first hour or so but I agree the opening feels really sloppy. I feel like I'm just expected to accept the four leads are bros though I barely know them and their connections. Combat is a lot of fun but really limited in the early going.

I can accept the characters being friends immediately, what doesn't make any sense at all is sending a prince... to his own royal wedding... in a car with 3 bros and no one else... without any money or guards or retinue or anything.

What exactly is going on here? Is it going to be a wedding attended by 10 people? Is the prince of a kingdom at war and on the brink of destruction really allowed to just travel around on his own in a drop-top? That's how JFK got killed, for fuck's sake. Don't they remember that?

And then the dude has this phone and he could just pick it up and call pops and be like 'yo wire 1 billion gil to my paypal desu ne, pops' but... he doesn't. It makes no sense in the world they're in, imo.

Nor does it make sense that it establishes this awesome fantasy city and you start the game out in hicksville doing errands while your car is fixed. (And judging by how it controls, it never truly gets fixed - Cid must be a fraud) Surely they could have come up with a better start.

I enjoyed Kingsglaive a lot. I got exactly what I wanted out of it (an early taste of the FFXV world and pretty warp-related combat), and the story itself was not bad. The refugee story was pretty interesting.

I'm glad they're going to be inserting more of Kingsglaive into the game to make it make sense.

The 90 minutes I spent with Kingsglaive have been 10x more enjoyable and coherent than the 90 I've spent with FFXV so far.
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I'm feeling really stupid.

Been playing two hours. Just got to the dock. There's a bar on the way to what I presume will be a boat. I check the hunts. They're all level 14 -17 or so.

I'm level... 5? But I've done a few hunts already... three or four, but I'm not rushing. So I think, well maybe I can handle the level 14 one.... nope.jpg. Get wrecked and die.

Am I super under leveled already? Should I be skipping these? What's the deal?
 

thejpfin

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So I assume you have to manually/auto drive everywhere or does fast travel become a thing?
Well...
Fast travel exists. I haven't played it yet but apparently you have to visit the parking spots. People who've played could clarify for you, though.
Yep, this is correct. You can use fast travel much as you like to any places you once visited, as long you have enough money. Fast travel costs, but not much luckily.
 
I can accept the characters being friends immediately, what doesn't make any sense at all is sending a prince... to his own royal wedding... in a car with 3 bros and no one else... without any money or guards.

What exactly is going on here?

And then the dude has this phone and he could just pick it up and call pops and be like 'yo wire 1 billion gil to my paypal desu ne, pops' but... he doesn't. It makes no sense in the world they're in, imo.

Nor does it make sense that it establishes this awesome fantasy city and you start the game out in hicksville doing errands while your car is fixed. (And judging by how it controls, it never truly gets fixed - Cid must be a fraud) Surely they could have come up with a better start.

Yeah it kinda feels like they forgot to design an opening to the game until last minute and slapped one on there late. I'm fine with the car pushing sequence to establish the present relationship of the characters but it should have been followed with some kind of flash back of "how we first met" or something, could have been the ideal turorial section to give you a feel for each of your party members in combat.

I'm feeling really stupid.

Been playing two hours. Just got to the dock. There's a bar on the way to what I presume will be a boat. I check the hunts. They're all level 14 -17 or so.

I'm level... 5? But I've done a few hunts already... three or four, but I'm not rushing. So I think, well maybe I can handle the level 14 one.... nope.jpg. Get wrecked and die.

Am I super under leveled already? Should I be skipping these? What's the deal?

Are you not camping? Exp isn't tallied unless you rest for the night.
 

Joqu

Member
I like the idea of both offense and defense on triggers so I can use them while moving and controlling camera.

Leaning C...

Ah, this must have been it. I really can't control the camera in combat right now so I can see C being useful there. I'll give it a try.
 
Does Noctis himself have techniques?

Short answer : yes.

All of the weapon types have different move sets that are performed by moving the left stick left/right/forward/back while attacking or by timing your button presses.

If you played Episode Duscae, Noctis can perform tempest with a great sword by pressing attack shortly after finishing a normal attack swing. He can perform full thrust with a spear by pressing back on the left stick once while attacking. Pressing twice will start the aerial combo. Each weapon has nuances like this.
 
Ah, this must have been it. I really can't control the camera in combat right now so I can see C being useful there. I'll give it a try.

Yup, good point by yankee. Seems like it'll be wonky as fuck to get used to but probably be the better way to go once you've adapted.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
I can accept the characters being friends immediately, what doesn't make any sense at all is sending a prince... to his own royal wedding... in a car with 3 bros and no one else... without any money or guards or retinue or anything.

What exactly is going on here? Is it going to be a wedding attended by 10 people? Is the prince of a kingdom at war and on the brink of destruction really allowed to just travel around on his own in a drop-top? That's how JFK got killed, for fuck's sake. Don't they remember that?

For what its worth, in the original 15 draft, the invasion happend and the gang had to escape the city. Tabata cut out that whole thing(along with Stella and their meeting entirely)and made the beginning into a movie, and the motivation for them leaving the city to meet up with Luna who he created later on
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Yeah it kinda feels like they forgot to design an opening to the game until last minute and slapped one on there late. I'm fine with the car pushing sequence to establish the present relationship of the characters but it should have been followed with some kind of flash back of "how we first met" or something, could have been the ideal turorial section to give you a feel for each of your party members in combat.



Are you not camping? Exp isn't tallied unless you rest for the night.

I am. But thanks for the quick reply regardless.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
I loved the way it was written too.

A few possibilities:

1. Kagari didn't want too much positivity on the front page as part of her long running nefarious scheme to scupper FF XV and thereby elevate the XIV team in the eyes of the fandom.

2. Kagari and PressSneak have a long, sordid, and secretly adversarial history and this is just the latest salvo.

3. She just grabbed some representative reviews w/out greatly over-thinking it.

My money is on 3, but 2 would be a lot more exciting!

I honestly just grabbed a few at random.
 
Yup, good point by yankee. Seems like it'll be wonky as fuck to get used to but probably be the better way to go once you've adapted.

It fits well w/ the idea of switching between continuous offense and defense, but I get wanting attack on face button for people who want to mash.

For what its worth, in the original 15 draft, the invasion happend and the gang had to escape the city. Tabata cut out that whole thing(along with Stella)and made the beginning into a movie, and the motivation for them leaving the city to meet up with Luna

Right -- and the charitable read is that this stuff got cut so the game could be finished (Making Insomnia playable... well, HD Towns are hard), as opposed to Tabata just hating epic openings.
 

Ponn

Banned
Well shit, my DE from Amazon hasn't shipped and says delivery for Thursday. Are their DE from Amazon not release date delivery eligible, two day shipping was checked so I either chose release date delivery when I ordered it or it wasn't eligible at that point and checked two day shipping and they usually automatically upgrade it when it becomes available. As usual my birthday becomes a disappointment again.
 

silva1991

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I fucking cast thundara with stop element(by crafting random items with it) and both me and and the monsters stopped.... are you kidding me?

Friendly fire is BS.
 
Well shit, my DE from Amazon hasn't shipped and says delivery for Thursday. Are their DE from Amazon not release date delivery eligible, two day shipping was checked so I either chose release date delivery when I ordered it or it wasn't eligible at that point and checked two day shipping and they usually automatically upgrade it when it becomes available. As usual my birthday becomes a disappointment again.

Mine coming tomorrow from AZ is DE :/

Maybe go pick one up tomorrow at a retailer, if you can find one and then return your Thursday copy to said retailer when it comes in? Sorry about your bday.
 
I fucking cast thundara with stop element(by crafting random items with it) and both me and and the monsters stopped.... are you kidding me?

Friendly fire is BS.

The magic tutorial warns you about that, magic feels like its meant to be a battle starter when enemies are clumped and not aware of you.
 

preta

Member
Carbuncle doesn't revive you every time you die in the full game, right..? Because I don't know if this is an intentional part of the Judgment Disk demo or a bug.
 

Snaku

Banned
Is that the raiment or w/e? Is it actually cool or are you shitting? I don't think I've looked.

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fwiw, Gladio is the prince's combat trainer and personal bodyguard, Ignis is his butler/cook and Prompto is a childhood friend. They are his retinue, as well as his friends.

I agree they should have included this stuff in the game itself, but if you want to know the backstory on the bros, you should really watch the anime "Brotherhood".
 
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