psychowave
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There's a point of no return much later on, but the game tells you.
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Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia |OT|
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There's a point of no return much later on, but the game tells you.
Orniletter
Banned
Fully voiced dialogue is such a major step forward for FE's presentation.
I really, really don't mind that Echoes got rid of these ugly 3D cutscenes and everything is just Atlus-esque talking portraits. What a great tradeoff.
Game is super fun so far, about 3.5 hours in.
I really, really don't mind that Echoes got rid of these ugly 3D cutscenes and everything is just Atlus-esque talking portraits. What a great tradeoff.
Game is super fun so far, about 3.5 hours in.
Aaronrules380
Member
There are 3D cutscenes though?
Orniletter
Banned
Oh....well... then nevermind. lol
Aaronrules380
Member
I'm not sure how you missed this, since you get them pretty much from the start. Hell, they're probably a bit more frequent than in Fates and Awakening
This game's localization is just wonderful.
I think they're talking about ones using the in-game models, which I haven't seen in Echoes yet.
Aaronrules380
Member
Oh, forgot about those
DecoReturns
Member
There's one of you training with Mycen right at the beginning.
But yeah pretty infrequent, i like Echoes way better.
Oh yeah, forgot about that one.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Those exist too, like Alm fighting against Mycen at the beginning or
Clive and Fernand fighting.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Only mods can change thread titles.someone really needs to PM Draxal about getting this promotion business added to the title
I don't think they're reading the thread lol
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
Including basic promotions like Archer -> Sniper? If so, it sounds like the most un-Fire Emblem thing ever
theprodigy
Member
Including basic promotions like Archer -> Sniper? If so, it sounds like the most un-Fire Emblem thing ever
no, not really, the real secret is promoting late is almost never ideal in any game
Did I stutter? APASAP.Including basic promotions like Archer -> Sniper? If so, it sounds like the most un-Fire Emblem thing ever
Actually, promoting decently early has been the most optimal approach in most Fire Emblems. Absolutely having to wait for 20 is a "Wendy is a 9/10" level of Gamefaqsness. Having those stat boosts that promotions give you now is a lot better than what those extra few points might give you in the endgame, assuming you even get to 20/20.
Next you're going to be telling me that Marcus and Seth aren't trash units!
Aaronrules380
Member
Seth is one of the best units in Sacred Stones lol
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
fixed that for you
Seth is great. Marcus sucks though, but he also had the bad luck of being in the same game with the best Paladin (Sain) in the series.
[Oh and waiting til 20 is the correct way. :] Well maybe not in this game, but in the other games psh.
TheMoon
Member
I know, but us randoms can't just go request a title change for a thread we didn't make.
Marcus does suck though. In FE 6, he's one of the of worst units you get. In 7 he's better, but why use him when you get Sain,
For sure, Marcus isn't very good in 6, but he has his uses in 7. He's not trash by any means in 7, even if he does fall off later on.
Edit:
Even on HHM? I swear he wasn't working for me last time I played through FE7 HHM, but maybe I just got unlucky.
Double edit: I think I just spread my experience too thin in that run anyways because a few of my units weren't able to reach doubling thresholds by the middle-later chapters
theprodigy
Member
lol no FE6 Marcus, while he does fall off, is invaluable in the earlygame, meanwhile FE7 Marcus literally lasts the entire game cause weeee FE7 enemies
MissDeviling
Member
I hope 8-4 never stops localizing Fire Emblem. They make the dialogue such a joy to read.
someone really needs to PM Draxal about getting this promotion business added to the title
I don't think they're reading the thread lol
I am.
1. The current OT is a placeholder until Shun gets back as stated in the OT.
2. Once we get it updated, there will be a more permanent OT title, I'm not dicking around until that happens.
You are Prodigy's new favorite poster.
Thank you.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
not very far but Cleric!Faye seems very strong?
Cleric Faye is this games dancer, although to be fair she gets anew incredibly late.
Going to edit op with class recommendations for the villagers and their "canon" classes if anybody cares.
Alm Route
Gray: Rec Class = Merc. Canon Class = Merc.
Tobin: Rec Class = Mage. Canon Class = Archer
Kliff: Rec Class = Archer. Canon Class = Mage
Faye: Rec Class = Cleric. Canon Class = PK
Celica Route
Atlas: Rec Class = Archer. Canon Class = ???
HAHA, oh wow I guess i'm going maverick completely on my team then.
Kliff - Merc
Tobin - Merc
Gray - Cavalier
Faye - Mage
Noooooo. The last remake was so damn good! They just need to release a translated version on VC.
You have not played FE6 HM if you do not think Marcus is one of your most worthwhile early game units, haha.
Maybe even on normal mode, but I dunno, it's been way too long since I last played that.
Cow Mengde
Banned
I don't like the close of the faces whenever they cri though. It breaks the flow of the animation. I know it's in the 3DS games. I hope they get rid of it next game.
R_thanatos
Member
Started earlier this afternoon ...
The blood in the cinematic was white ?
?
Other than that , it's ok so far
The blood in the cinematic was white ?
?Other than that , it's ok so far
In both games Marcus is one of the best units. FE6 Marcus' carries you through the entire first half the game due to his weapon ranks and ability to take hits.
FE7 Marcus is always useful due to his weapon ranks and high strength. His speed struggles around the midgame, where he can't double nomads and cavs, but that's solvable with speedwings.
As for this game, I'm liking it so far but holy moley are some of the fortress desert maps complete trash. Just a slog to run through. Its not like you can warp and lay a hit on the boss, unless he's a summoner, because they're all rout objectives.
Nah, I played it on hard mide. By the time you reach the large map with the colleseum, which is in five chapters(?) or so I end up benching him for the rest of the game. It's been a really long time since I last played that game, but I do remember not using him after you get the knight Crest which is the chapter right after the large town map and you have like four other cavaliers to use.
Maybe I'm forgetting something, but I do think you get your Knight's Crest pretty early on. Like I said it's been a while.
In FE 7, I bench him as soon as Sain rejoins your party.
Huh the only Canon class that I didn't pick was Tobin's.
Also I killed the necrodragon with Celica and as she leveled she gains Seraphin... Goddammit that would make an easier fight.
robotzombie
Member
What makes Tobin a better mage and Kliff a better archer instead of going with their obvious class choices?
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Xenoflare
Member
I went with the "canon" classes and Tobin is outclassed by Python in every way and his growth are quite poor.
Kliff as a mage is meh for me, but I don't have any other options.
People who like mage Tobin usually bring up the early Excalibur, which is a spell that is basically brave sword but for magic (low weight and high crit). in addition of Physic that is really appreciated since if you did not make Faye into a Cleric only Tatiana knows ranged healing.
Gray is born for Merc and I don't know how I am going to go through the game without making Faye a Cleric, but I don't mind making Kilff an archer and Tobin a mage on my next playthrough.
AlexFlame116
Member
I want to play this.
But I still haven't finished Conquest!.....or Birthright.....or Revelations....
Shoot.
But I still haven't finished Conquest!.....or Birthright.....or Revelations....
Shoot.
robotzombie
Member
Thanks for the explanation
On another note, does anyone have any suggestions on best usage of the stat fountains? Any reason to not use them immediately? Should I spread them out or concentrate them on a few people?
I don't think you can. You're just going to restart.
Skip those and play these. First act alone has a better story and better chars than those 3 games.