Aaronrules380
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So, after hours got to the very end of conquest 23. COuld have won, but stupidly decided to clear out the last few enemies. Very last enemy survives and kills one of my best units. D:
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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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victreeb3l
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My problem with Birthright's story was that not only was it bad, but it wasnt even the good kind of bad.
Just made no sense.
I wouldnt be this disappointed if
On the positive, I like the characters a lot. The Nohr characters are much better but after numerous supports, the Hoshido characters seem much more fleshed out and multi dimensional than Awakenings cast (who I still love).
At least make it cheesy and let everyone live happily ever after. Nope. The character deaths seemed pretty pointless and forced. Fucking Lilith and Elise died the same exact way by appearing out of nowhere and jumping in front of a blade lol. Xander and Flora died because they are stupid characters that basically committed suicide.
I wouldnt be this disappointed if
their deaths werent so pointless and stupid. I'd tolerate the plot holes and unexplained stuff if the deaths made sense. It just felt like forced tear jerking.
On the positive, I like the characters a lot. The Nohr characters are much better but after numerous supports, the Hoshido characters seem much more fleshed out and multi dimensional than Awakenings cast (who I still love).
Elaugaufein
Member
Xander's
a very standard archetype. His loyalty/duty to his country is as binding on him as his own personal morality so he can't surrender / betray his country but he can commit the noble equivalent of death by cop. I don't think it's a coincidence that he's a Paladin.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Forrest's paralogue is literally impossible.
I might just forget about him.
I might just forget about him.
Nope.
Send someone with entrap to the right and start a fight to spawn the Berserker. Use entrap on the berserker and kill him. You now have all the time in the world to complete the map.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
I think it's pretty silly too but Hoshido fam does get the advantage of having not kidnapped and brainwashed you for your entire life and then also by not committing a ton of atrocities.
NeonZ
Member
Isn't that the point of that DLC though, to give them a storyline? It's not a single chapter thing, but a set of six chapters focused on the 2nd gen as the main party in some storyline where their parents are apparently all dead somehow.
dakkumauji
Member
i believe proximity shot will be one of the prizes for the kids' dlc chapters
dunno what other op skill out there they could give out too
SliceSabre
Banned
Alrighty then time to do Conquest since I've finally beaten Birthright! Gonna stick with female and make my hair color purple like Camilla's this time.
How in the world do I save Shiro in Paralogue 7? I waited till max level and now he's too weak so he always gets himself killed every time he attacks the first enemy he sees.
So stupid.
I just want to finish unlocking the kids before moving to Conquest but this is getting frustrating.
So stupid.
I just want to finish unlocking the kids before moving to Conquest but this is getting frustrating.
BassForever
Member
So how have you male corrin players handled the whole can't get all children issue if you don't marry a gen 2/corrin only girl? I've been sitting at several girls I could s rank but haven't since none of them fall into the above category and I'm not sure what desire fills me more, to marry someone I think fits for story reasons, one I want for gameplay reasons, or see all content. I'm in birthright/hard so exp isn't an issue here.
victreeb3l
Member
I get that he's Mr. Loyalty and stuff but I figured that Elise's death would be a wake up call for him. Like it would be too convenient if he just switched sides after a duel. Elise's life seemed like a high enough price and would have been a good, but corny, but still good launchpad for his reformation.
Instead he just got himself killed and made Corrin feel like shit about it. Thanks Big Bro!
Instead he just got himself killed and made Corrin feel like shit about it. Thanks Big Bro!
I mean I'm definitely over thinking it but I just cant help but feel like it was wasted potential.
theprodigy
Member
So Conquest chapter 23 was fairly simple playing it slowly and having Xander clear out the initial wave at the top.
...then my SD card failed and now I have to redo the chapter fml
...then my SD card failed and now I have to redo the chapter fml
Aaronrules380
Member
At least you didn't fuck it up yourself by overextending and then losing to the last goddamn enemy on the map
ClayKavalier
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Wow, so if you decide to try the incest route you basically spoil the story for yourself? Weird. Another reason it seems like they would have been better off just making all the siblings on either side A+ max.
GuitarGuruu
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Finally getting around to picking this up off the eshop, Snagged Birthright first, any tips before going in?
I've only played FE Sacred Stones and FE Awakening multiple times on Normal and Hard mode.
I've only played FE Sacred Stones and FE Awakening multiple times on Normal and Hard mode.
Being shut in a fortress most of one's life tends to do that.
Detailing my experience
When I realized what happened (and how stupid it is) I paired a couple of flying units with my tough units to take out the boss. I didn't stick around to see if I could undo it but it didn't seem like it at first glance.
I skipped her Oni/Blacksmith line and made her a Dread Fighter for the hell of it. IIRC one of them uses magic so unless your Rinkah is somehow proficient in magic, I wouldn't bother.
ShinRPGamer
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Hayato will be forever alone since he gives us the Tharja expy.
I only have one Dread Fighter scroll ATM, and I'm trying not to use it.
Blacksmith is katana and clubs, Oni Savage is scrolls and clubs, so either way, she keeps her main weapon.
Scrolls and clubs sound like a fun time and if she's grown well enough it gives her another option from what it sounds like. Although she's probably still doomed against mages/high Res units.
Huh Level 15 skill is Counter.
ZeroMaverick
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Okay, so I'm loving this game way more than I thought I would (Birthright), and it's my first Fire Emblem game. But there's something nagging me. Like, I love the game, but I'm wondering how I could possibly find the will to play Conquest and the Revelations afterward. Like, am I just supposed to forget everything that happens in Birthright and play an alt-universe version of the game? I know the games are fundamentally different, and that's great from a gameplay perspective, but I'm so invested in Birthright's story, I can't see how I could find that same investment if the other two effectively nullify everything I'm doing.
Essentially yes.
Events are entirely different so it's interesting to see things from an opposing perspective as the stories go on (and occasionally link up at locations but from the opposite side of things).
I say this as a person who is playing Birthright and Conquest simultaneously, chapter-by-chapter.
Events are entirely different so it's interesting to see things from an opposing perspective as the stories go on (and occasionally link up at locations but from the opposite side of things).
I say this as a person who is playing Birthright and Conquest simultaneously, chapter-by-chapter.
Yeah, if I had to give up one child in Birthright, it would be Rahjet. Giving up a daughter is also a good idea because there would be one extra daughter with Kana, meaning that if you gave up a son (or didn't give up any child), you couldn't pair up all the children.
Plus, I hate Hayato. It's, like, a win-win-win situation.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Maybe I'd be better off if I wait a while before jumping into the next one, then. Give myself some time to forget what happens.
lmaoConquest 14
So easy... Get to the boss... Forget to check the boss' skills, and have Leo cast magic against him...
Literally the same thing happened to me. I wanted to soften him up to feed XP to Keaton. Instead, I lost it all. orz
Yeah, I went with Oni Savage in the end. She has a large gourd on her back, and it looks super cool.
I covered up all the holes on the map and then another Dragon Vein popped up. Using it put a bridge to cross. Not sure if it was just coincidence (as enemies were spawning in the holes; may have been a certain amount of enemies you have to kill first) or not, but it worked. Very confusing wording on the DV, for sure.
Xenoflare
Member
I'd promote him to a Master of Arms if you are willing, he's bulky
He joins when the bath house in your castle is level 3
Cute Dragon Here
Member
Heh.
Funnily enough, in my now-finished Birthright run, it was Setsuna and Hinata having the worst stats. Using the "Rating" system where it sums all stats, these two were hanging out at 120-130 at promoted level 15, when everyone else is 180-200. Seriously.
Izana is amazing.