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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Beren the Empty-Handed
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So it sounds like Orochi should just go straight to Onmyoji, and maybe pop over to Basara for the skills and then bounce back. And Rhajat can rock being a Basara or Onmyoji? Is either worth being a Witch? I was hoping to make somebody into a witch...
captainpat
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Heh, I just leveled Mozu from 1-10 in chapter 11 by having her shoot Azama over and over again with the cupids arrow.
NeonZ
Member
The weird map gimmicks stop after chapter 20 - although chapter 21 has an annoying gimmick tied to certain skills used by the enemies.
Freaking Limit
Member
You can make either into a Witch really. Witches can only use tomes, so its more like a Sorcerer, but they get higher caps and have fairly high mag and speed growths. If you have to pick one, I would argue that Rhajat is better suited if only because Orochi's pathetic speed growth can't really be salvaged by the high speed growth a witch adds (Orochi has base 15% growth, and witch gives + 20% = 35%). On that same note though, Rhajat works well in pretty much any magic role since her base growths are great anyway, so Witch has little to add. If you want the best chance at making the best Orochi, then Witch should go to her. If you want to have the best Witch you can, give it to Rhajat.
Good to know. Hopefully I can power through and finish Conquest this weekend. I'm skipping some of the remaining paralogues since the couple of kids I've gotten so far don't seem that great anyway. I don't need Niles' or Xander's kids
Haha, those two kids in particular are some of my best units. Almost every unit is viable, though.
Rhajat is probably good as anything magic but she's surprisingly sturdy so Basara is a nice tanky profession for her. Ending Orochi's run as a witch seems sound!
DeployThatPizza
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Elise's health gain is really bad. 7 levels and she hasn't gained one HP.
Pre-ordered Birthright, and I plan to buy the Conquest version digitally as soon as I complete Birthright's campaign. Still a little annoyed that I have to wait until the 20th May to be able to finally play it. Oh well.
Reading this topic for the last few weeks has been interesting. I managed to avoid spoilers, though by all accounts the story is the weak spot of the game (especially the Conquest one, to my dismay). Thanksfully, the gameplay seems top notch, and an improvement from Awakening, which I found to be really lacking compared to previous Fire Emblem games (Awakening is fun, but "Dual Units" was a completed broken mecanic, allowing units to just snowball through the maps without any problems, and maps were rather simplistic, with little to no side objectives ; not a fan of being able to just grind ad-nauseum either, though that possibility did exist in previous FE titles thanks to the arena and/or exploiting a boss's regeneration).
The difficulty seems to be back, and I'm really looking forward having an hard time with some maps, though it seems that some maps are incredibly long and difficult from what I gathered here.
Reading this topic for the last few weeks has been interesting. I managed to avoid spoilers, though by all accounts the story is the weak spot of the game (especially the Conquest one, to my dismay). Thanksfully, the gameplay seems top notch, and an improvement from Awakening, which I found to be really lacking compared to previous Fire Emblem games (Awakening is fun, but "Dual Units" was a completed broken mecanic, allowing units to just snowball through the maps without any problems, and maps were rather simplistic, with little to no side objectives ; not a fan of being able to just grind ad-nauseum either, though that possibility did exist in previous FE titles thanks to the arena and/or exploiting a boss's regeneration).
The difficulty seems to be back, and I'm really looking forward having an hard time with some maps, though it seems that some maps are incredibly long and difficult from what I gathered here.
Why is the story so freaking bad in Conquest? I pretty much hate everything about it once you enter Hoshido. Corrin and Azura are dumbasses in this game and no one should actually be listening to those two.
And the worst part is that they were fine in Birthright which only makes this travesty even more mind boggling.
And the worst part is that they were fine in Birthright which only makes this travesty even more mind boggling.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Freaking Limit
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While maps are hard, I don't actually find them to be particularly long. Most of the time, you spend a lot of time figuring out what to do because you messed up, or because you misunderstood the mechanics (or gimmicks as some would say). Thankfully, for mechanics, the first few interactions are made to show you exactly how they work and don't punish you for it. I actually really like the learning curve they put into most levels since it gives you just enough to understand, and by the end you know enough to exploit them for some neat tricks and deal with the harder enemies.
The only thing I wish we had a bit more of are defend missions. While what we got was hard (I had trouble and lots of people seems to on here as well) it was the mission that made me feel satisfied and accomplished. Defend missions usually challenge your unit placement and enemy count management skills more than anything else, since you never really get a break. It really pays off when you figure out how to balance culling the enemy numbers with keeping your units close enough to catch anyone who manages to slip by. I won't say much more for fear of spoiling, but the Conquest defend mission is my favourite FE mission I've played in a very long while. One of the few missions that really push you to the edge, especially since most people likely haven't gotten a hold of the new mechanics by that point.
AdmiralSnackbar
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Keeping myself mostly spoiler free...
Is Azura supposed to be awful or am I missing something?
Is Azura supposed to be awful or am I missing something?
Freaking Limit
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Awful defense and hp. Otherwise she is a beast. Basically a Glass Cannon, who can sing.
Mechanically or as a character?
Gameplay-wise she is your dancer and is perfectly fine at it, though it's possible to convert her into a glass cannon melee fighter.
As a character she's a little bland and suffers from being surrounded by colorful weirdos. She has a couple nice, low-key supports though.
Xenoflare
Member
Traditionally refreshers are not supposed to fight. Olivia in Awakening is kinda a outcast due to reclassing (but she is still an extremely fragile fighter)
Technically you are not supposed to use Azura to fight, since the entire purpose of her class is to let another unit to act twice in the same phase.
With that said, Azura has some crazy str and spd growths. Like, she can actually blick enemies if you want her to, which is kinda crazy if you ask me. Although she will pass out when the wind is blowing at her direction.
In Conquest she just stayed as a pure refresher, in Revelations I managed get her Lance rank to C because the unit roster is non-existent.
If this is plot related, she's not really the most offensively bad character in the game, though she is one huge plot device on her own.
Revelations Spoilers
Since in both Birthright and Conquest she vanishes due to singing too much particularly during the endgame, while the theme made it sounds like she's the one who is singing, but then is she still singing in the Revelation endgame?
Haha the same happen with my Azura. I don't let her fight, but if one enemy try to attack her she will defend herself verywell.
Xenoflare
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Azura is like lottery, if she dodges a fatal attack she can kill her opponents via doubling. Her Str is godly
Her fighting animations is absolutely hilarious, I think the dev is trying to make her look like she's dancing but man it's just so funny to me.
Also if you look carefully she's actually not holding her weapon it just kinda goes through her wrist when she's in her victory pose/ resting position.
dakkumauji
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she's pretty good in attack stance
high attack and won't die to a slight breeze if you have other units protecting her
high attack and won't die to a slight breeze if you have other units protecting her
Nazonozonoya
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I just opened up my Roy Amiibo and I get a not supported message, did I miss some news about it, thought it would be supported? First amiibo I've opened to use, felt bad opening it but meh have another one incoming, very nice detail on the straps and cape.
Only the initial four Fire Emblem amiibo are compatible with the game. Roy was never announced to be supported.
Nazonozonoya
Member
Ouch, thanks, he's the only FE amiibo I own sadly, I may have confused Ike's cape with Roy's cape. Guess I'll have to import the rest if i really want them.
Randomly Nameless
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Well Revelation Chapter 17 was a lot easier on my second attempt. I guess the stress of messing up and playing late at night wasn't a good combination. I let Leo and Xander handle the entire right side, with some help from Hinoka with a Beast Killer, and the rest of my squad handled the left side.
It feels weird to have every unit at my disposal now, with the exception of like, Fuga and Flora who will join at My Castle in a handful of chapters.
Obviously excluding the kids, which just makes things worse.
It feels weird to have every unit at my disposal now, with the exception of like, Fuga and Flora who will join at My Castle in a handful of chapters.
Obviously excluding the kids, which just makes things worse.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I'm a bit overwhelmed by how much freedom Revelation throws at you. There's so many units I want to use.
Xenoflare
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Uhhh I have a weird question.
Is it a bug or does Kaze not have those really sappy lines that fucks around with the surround sound during spouse bonding when the screen fades to white, during my conquest playthrough Silas always had that.
Relevant comic
http://www.dorkly.com/post/77485/video-games-from-an-onlookers-point-of-view?ref=comics
Is it a bug or does Kaze not have those really sappy lines that fucks around with the surround sound during spouse bonding when the screen fades to white, during my conquest playthrough Silas always had that.
Relevant comic
http://www.dorkly.com/post/77485/video-games-from-an-onlookers-point-of-view?ref=comics
ShadowSoldier89
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azura and kaden support is so good. Azura is a lot better in supports that get her to break out of her shell. And it makes the fact that she has that shell more interesting.
So I'm finally up to chapter 20 in Conquest and decided to go do the missions that involves recruiting the kids. And damn the whole idea of having children as units in this game is stupid, there isn't any good reason for them being there. They're shoehorned in.
Oh and this is really one of the more embarrassing games to play in front of others(the face rubbing, blowing through the microphone, that dance scene in Chapter 14,etc.)
I hope they cut some of this stuff out in the next game, but with Fates being even more successful than Awakening at launch I doubt it'll happen. :/
Oh and this is really one of the more embarrassing games to play in front of others(the face rubbing, blowing through the microphone, that dance scene in Chapter 14,etc.)
I hope they cut some of this stuff out in the next game, but with Fates being even more successful than Awakening at launch I doubt it'll happen. :/
Chapter 15 if you don't count bonus units.
Astral Dog
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what, blowing through the microphone?
And the dance scene was kinda cool despite the cheesy lyrics the opera house looks good and if you dont like that type of dance there is Hoshido/Birthright
pokemonsquared
Banned
22, and some bonus units that can be recruited whenever
The mic picks up that you're blowing and steam will be blown off the spouse. People wonder how to blow into the 3DS effectively but it's literally just aiming for the mic.
chrominance
Member
Conquest 10 seems like a really neat hold-the-line mission that is unfortunately killing me dead on Normal/Classic. I don't really want to drop down to Casual needlessly but I just spent two hours with nothing to show for it. The worst is feeling like I have the general strategy figured out but losing people in the last turn to random shit. I wish I had save states.
Also, Arthur can go die in a fire. I threw both my Goddess Icons at him to bring his luck up and I'm still not sure it was worth it.
Also, Arthur can go die in a fire. I threw both my Goddess Icons at him to bring his luck up and I'm still not sure it was worth it.
The sheer number of enemies can get a bit overwhelming for sure, but I managed to beat the paralogue much more smoothly than the first try by actually making use of the dragon veins. Turns out Percy is a cool kid but he needs to work on the whole "almost killing his father and friends" thing.
The very last turn of chapter 23 Conquest almost gave me a heart attack. So,
Takumi is the last man standing and I'm thinking about a good way to dispose of him since he looks really dangerous if you just carelessly approach him. I then decide to use Corrin to weaken him first and also get the flavor dialogue between the two of them, while planning to finish the fight with Mozu which is pretty much always the only one with a guaranteed 100% hit on everything that moves. I had accounted for Vengeance triggering which is why I used a weapon that would deal just enough damage for Corrin to survive the retalation, and then he decides he wants to be cute and TRIGGERS THE DAMN DRAGON FANG dealing much more damage than he can take in return. Takumi then triggers Vengeance because why wouldn't he, I start yelling "no no no" and getting myself ready to throw my 3DS at a wall, and then... Corrin actually dodges a 70% hit attack and triggers Dragon Fang AGAIN finishing off Takumi by himself.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
This kind of reminds me. I had an instance where a character missed a 90-something hit attack that was pretty much a must-hit situation to keep them from dying. Once they missed I gave up and reset because the counter attack with 80ish hit was going to kill them. Right as I hit the button combination to soft reset, the dodge animation starts and "miss" appears on the screen, too late.
I'd have probably done the same thing in your case as soon as Dragon's Fang activated.
Flip a coin
This decision is MUCH too important for that.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Does anyone know if Duelist Blow (+30 Avoid) and Certain Blow (+40 Avoid) stack? Would this effectively give me +70 Avoid on the unit?
It sucks when you end up making poor decisions because of reflexes, I know that feeling all to well. It doesn't help that RNG shenanigans in Fates feel somewhat more present than in any of my other experiences with Fire Emblem. It doesn't seem all that uncommon to see two units with a 90% hit missing each other which is kind of funny.
It can also lead to some pretty epic stuff like my Leo dodging and critting his way through an army of like 8 units going at him which should have absolutely done him for but he didn't care because he's motherflipping Leo and that's just how he rolls. It seriously gave me Donnel flashbacks.
On the other hand it can also lead to some really stupid shit like having to reset a chapter because the almighty Master Ninja Kaze apparently can't dodge 30% hits not even once. Ever.
Certain Blow doesn't give you +40 Avoid, it gives you +40 Hit.
Finale Fireworker
Member
You're absolutely right. It's 2:45 AM here and I misread it. Thanks so much.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I wish my Leo was good. He's slow and misses every time I ever try to have him hit anything, so he never gets experience or levels.
And yeah, Felicia missing twice with a 97 hit rate is probably going to be the "lowlight" of Conquest for me. I refuse to believe this game uses the same 2RN system as previous games.
Trust me dude, it really doesn't make a difference, especially in Birthright.