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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Finale Fireworker
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I'd go as soon as possible just because the paralogues get harder the longer you wait.
DeployThatPizza
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You can do it anytime you want. I'd suggest supporting as early as you can then recruiting them after Ch. 18.
BuckRobotron
Member
Mitama is Azama's. Interesting character, with literally starry eyes and always about haiku. She was a good all-rounder in my Birthright Hard/Classic, mother Setsuna.
NeonZ
Member
You can wait for skill inheritance and better base stats, however the effect of increased stats on the child's base stats isn't as big as in Awakening, so picking the early won't damage their stats mcuh. Unlike in Awakening, the children's initial level also scales up with your progress in the main story too, although they stop short of promoting and only the parent's stats that surpass the child's own bases on their current level will contribute anything.
Starting from chapter 19 though, they have offspring seals that level them up, including weapon levels, and promote them automatically, also based on the player's story progression during their recruitment. By the last chapter it takes them all the way to level 18 of their promoted class, making them ready to be deployed in end-game if you need to fill slots or even replace one of your characters with an improved version if the child's pairing is good enough. The enemies in those paralogues scale up too though.
victreeb3l
Member
Revelation 24
That was a lot of fun.
until the very end, where I lost like 2 units due to that chokepoint.
Story spoilers:
That was a lot of fun.
Didnt engage a single unit
Story spoilers:
Glad I didnt pair Azura and Corrin yet, just found out they're actually Vallite cousins! Does that make Takumi Vallite royalty too, since she's also Queen Mikotos son?
victreeb3l
Member
Ah I see.
I thought since Takumi and Corrin had similar hair colors (Corrins default at least) I assumed they were both Mikotos kids. I actually thought Takumi was a retainer from the early artwork and videos since he looks so different from the rest of his siblings.
Finally finished Birthright. Forty hours on the clock (but many more with resets...), hard, classic.
The final mission was a shitshow lol. The first two enemies that came in on me hit <10% crits and clocked people... I kind of appreciate that you can't save going into that mission, I would've reset for sure. But at that point I just wanted to get it done. Took Garon out in one round of attacks on him.
Ok but man. What an absolute mess that story was. The game goes so far out of the way to pretend like death isn't happening (except your mom): your allies "flee", you can win the friendship of a village chief by slaughtering two dozen of his people, you attempt to kill your Nohrian siblings but I guess they retreated too... and then in the home stretch they just kill two people in super cheap ways and two in melodramatic ways. So many things go totally unexplained -- like wtf is going on with Garon -- that I *guess* will be explored in the other path? Who cares. I'm skipping all dialog in the other paths.
Onward! What's next: Revelation or Conquest? I think I'll go Casual for the next, just to save time on resets.
The final mission was a shitshow lol. The first two enemies that came in on me hit <10% crits and clocked people... I kind of appreciate that you can't save going into that mission, I would've reset for sure. But at that point I just wanted to get it done. Took Garon out in one round of attacks on him.
Ok but man. What an absolute mess that story was. The game goes so far out of the way to pretend like death isn't happening (except your mom): your allies "flee", you can win the friendship of a village chief by slaughtering two dozen of his people, you attempt to kill your Nohrian siblings but I guess they retreated too... and then in the home stretch they just kill two people in super cheap ways and two in melodramatic ways. So many things go totally unexplained -- like wtf is going on with Garon -- that I *guess* will be explored in the other path? Who cares. I'm skipping all dialog in the other paths.
Onward! What's next: Revelation or Conquest? I think I'll go Casual for the next, just to save time on resets.
If you're skipping the dialogue, then i'd recommend going through Conquest. Best map design in the series thus far. The story is the worst one seen since Radiant Dumb.
I have a question...what do I do about character that hit level 20 and can't level up anymore? I can't use Master Seals on them and using any other seals just keeps their level. I changed Gunter to a Paladin hoping that it would help him, but it just made him worse and I can't change him back. Corrin and Xander just capped at 20 and I can't do anything with them. In Awakening I could change them to another class and they'd drop down to level 1 so at least they could level up again. I guess that can't be done in Conquest so I need some advice. Any help would be appreciated.
If you're looking to level them up more for skills, use an Eternal Seal, which lets a unit level up 5 more times once they reach the limit.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Chapter 21 feels like more hitrate shenanigans. Except this time for the enemy. These rocks are basically guaranteed KOs or near KOs on most of my characters. Hit rate of 37? 29? Doesn't matter, it is almost certainly going to hit. In 7 attempts I've seen ONE miss.
There is an "Eternal Seal" to raise level caps. Available from Gold Rod/Staff shops. You should be able to find castles through the Recommended section that you can buy them at. V expensive tho.
Master Seal is the only one that resets level, so you shouldn't use it until 15-20. I don't know Gunter, but some units join in advanced classes (the maid/butler), and their natural cap will be higher than 20.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Unless the skill is something you really want/need that's not necessarily true at all. I reclassed Corrin to Cavalier pretty much as soon as I got Dragon Fang and I didn't miss the whatever skills from the Noble class because it was way more valuable to have Corrin on a horse (and the +3 damage skill from being a cavalier is great). Unless your only goal is having the strongest possible team at endgame then it's not really necessary at all to worry about this.
That said, switching Hinoka to Spear Fighter sort of neuters a lot of her strengths so I wouldn't recommend it at all.
I have never seen that in my shop and it's level 3. I guess these guys are stuck at level 20, then. Just seems like a waste since they're my main units. Well, I'm on the last mission anyway and nothing carries over so I guess it's not worth bothering with.
When you say "find castles", what do you mean?
You never visited anyone else's castle? Go talk to the orb in your castle. I don't have the game on hand but the menu is something like Visit Castles > Recommended > and then there's a list. Gotta be online: it's sort of like Street Passing people over the Internet.
Oh. I saw the option on the list, but I don't like PvP so I didn't try it. I have no desire to battle other players. Can we just visit other castles without fighting them?
Xenoflare
Member
Yes and it's not actually PVP anyways. When you battle when visit other people's castle their units are AI controlled.
You only PvP when you choose "Wireless" in the orb menu
pokemonsquared
Banned
Been grinding Museum melee nonstop on my revelation master save.
Now everyone who can use one is outfitted with a brave.
Ignatius in particular appreciates his brave lance a lot as his wary fighter prevents him from doubling otherwise.
Now everyone who can use one is outfitted with a brave.
Ignatius in particular appreciates his brave lance a lot as his wary fighter prevents him from doubling otherwise.
Thanks for the information. I was able to visit someone's castle and get a couple of Eternal Seals! Looks like I'll be able to get Corrin and Xander a few more levels. Awesome!
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Had a good go at 21 where I wasn't getting screwed over by the RNG and beat it without too much trouble. That's a common theme in some of these "harder" chapters. Started off ugly with a lot of misses and struggling to kill enemies on turn 2, but it went pretty smooth after that.
Ran out of Dragon Veins I could reach around 2/3 of the way up and made a successful defensive stand on the right side of the map. After that enemy phase I was able to wipe out nearly all the remaining experience yielding enemies + reinforcements, then on the next turn I was able to take out the boss and start escaping. Left 3 exp yielding enemies, probably could have beaten them without too much trouble, but with the map basically done I wasn't going to risk something stupid happening since one of them was a stoneborn.
Niles was a beast, being the only character that could 1TKO Faceless without a crit/skill activation. Made him invaluable near the end.
Getting to the point I really need to start thinking about reclassing, or I'll run out of levels to get skills.
Ran out of Dragon Veins I could reach around 2/3 of the way up and made a successful defensive stand on the right side of the map. After that enemy phase I was able to wipe out nearly all the remaining experience yielding enemies + reinforcements, then on the next turn I was able to take out the boss and start escaping. Left 3 exp yielding enemies, probably could have beaten them without too much trouble, but with the map basically done I wasn't going to risk something stupid happening since one of them was a stoneborn.
Niles was a beast, being the only character that could 1TKO Faceless without a crit/skill activation. Made him invaluable near the end.
Getting to the point I really need to start thinking about reclassing, or I'll run out of levels to get skills.
Adam Prime
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Hey you can grind for gold and exp on Revelations right, without the DLC?
HylianHero12
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You can gain experience and gold in the challenges like in Birthright, yes. However, I feel like gold is a lot less plentiful in Revelation. It seemed like Conquest gave you some every mission.
In other news, getting an A+ Support between Ryoma and Xander is turning out to be the greatest thing ever. Xander gets Astra and Swordfaire now, and Ryoma deals stupid amounts of damage as a Paladin.
NeonZ
Member
Nohrian Trust is useful if your Corrin has high skill for activation rates and a support partner with an useful set up of offensive skills,which wouldn't take slots from Corin due to his Nohrian Trust skill.
DeployThatPizza
Member
Yep. Experience can be grinded like Birthright. Gold is a little harder, but all you need is someone with Profiteer, and you can grind infinitely.
oh my god, I didn't even think about this
Finale Fireworker
Member
Do you mean through Challenges, or are there Scout missions in Revelations?
I've purposefully avoided all Scout missions because I don't want to be in the habit of using them and then be too bad at the game for Conquest and Revelations. Partly because I thought you couldn't scout in these two plots.
NeonZ
Member
Oddly, that never really comes up again in any route, not even Revelation. The actual reason for that is only described in those encrypted texts from the hall and it's mentioned in a certainly DLC map, but Corrin himself isn't involved there, so it's just exposition.
Both challenges and scout missions are in Revelations. Also, you can grind My Castle battles for experience like in Birthright. Conquest is on its own with all of the anti-grinding mechanisms.
Haha yea. They dropped the ball on that one. It doesn't help it's one ugly Dragon too.
(I don't understand this dragon archetype, why are horse dragons a thing?)
Lol. Dialga must be a close relative or something. It's the strangest looking thing. I can't believe I didn't realize earlier that whole Dragon arc was ignored for the most part.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I hate they kinda reuse the same plot points and beats throughout all three routes and don't make each route completely different.
DeployThatPizza
Member
You can grind through both. Challenges appear after every chapter. The only version Scout doesn't appear in is Conquest. Eventually, you'll have to use the scouts to get higher level enemies.
HylianHero12
Member
Just finished Revelation.
My impressions of the last battle:
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I really enjoyed Revelation, other than the part where I ended up only using the Royal units. And I only did Caeldori's Paralogue (because I paired My Unit up with her). Now to go through and grind the other characters ans some supports and actually play all of the Paralogues, since I had skipped 3 or 4 through Birthright and Conquest.
And then to play Lunatic Birthright and see how far I get playing through all 3 paths again on the harder difficulty.
My impressions of the last battle:
THAT WAS THE GREATEST FIRE EMBLEM FINAL BATTLE I HAVE EVER PLAYED. I BASICALLY HAD XANDER, RYOMA, AND MY UNIT SPRINTING ACROSS THE BATTLEFIELD, CLEARING THE AREA OF ENEMIES SO I COULD FOCUS ON ATTACKING THE BOSS. THE LAST STAGE SURPRISED ME AND I REALLY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO KILL AZURA BECAUSE SHE WAS IN HIS RANGE
I really enjoyed Revelation, other than the part where I ended up only using the Royal units. And I only did Caeldori's Paralogue (because I paired My Unit up with her). Now to go through and grind the other characters ans some supports and actually play all of the Paralogues, since I had skipped 3 or 4 through Birthright and Conquest.
And then to play Lunatic Birthright and see how far I get playing through all 3 paths again on the harder difficulty.
Cool. I think I'll stay as GL until Lv. 34, then reclass just in time to get Nohrian Trust.
Randomly Nameless
Member
The level 35 Great Lord skill is phenomenal, one of the best skills in the game really, so I recommend getting that and then going back for Nohrian Trust.
The skill in question is called Awakening, and it ups your Crit Rate, Crit Evade, Avoid and Hit by 30 when at half HP or below, which is just insanity.
Wyndstryker
Member
I stop playing for awhile to deal with other things. I come back to the game and the RNG is still on my side. Crits all day long!
Yeah it's so crazy! There's like three cutscene fights where Corrin is getting worked. And I keep thinking "oh shit that dude doesn't know Corrin is a dragon, Corrin is going to transform and ruin him!" ... but then like Yato transforms or Corrin decides to believe in himself or whatever. Dude! You have a trump card! Don't let yourself get worked like that...
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Who else is so lame they actually make spreadsheets to play games. Got my reclassing plan for the rest of the game out of the way, provided it gives me enough money to work it out. Seems likely I'll get 20k more by the end of the end of the game, hopefully more otherwise I have to choose between weapons and heart seals.
My Mozu is beastly as a Dread Fighter, but I think a lot of that falls on aptitude improving her growths more than the class itself. And even then she isn't leagues beyond other characters like my Niles or Effie.
Since knives/shurikens are so good you will probably be using those most of the time, making it kind of like a Master Ninja with more balanced growths (less spd, skl, more HP, str) and added axes. The skills aren't amazing either, first three are decent but the last one is pretty nice.
My Mozu is beastly as a Dread Fighter, but I think a lot of that falls on aptitude improving her growths more than the class itself. And even then she isn't leagues beyond other characters like my Niles or Effie.
Since knives/shurikens are so good you will probably be using those most of the time, making it kind of like a Master Ninja with more balanced growths (less spd, skl, more HP, str) and added axes. The skills aren't amazing either, first three are decent but the last one is pretty nice.
victreeb3l
Member
I made a spreadsheet to keep track of all my pairings :x
Finished Revelation. Overall, I loved it and it's probably my favorite path mainly because I have access to so many characters/pairings. The maps overall weren't as strong as Conquest's, but I still really enjoyed them overall (even if a few at the beginning were kinda tedious).
The story was alright, but I felt like it relied too much on plot conveniences at times. Corrin wasn't as much as a dumbass as he was in Conquest at least. I'm still kinda surprised the story was so mediocre/bad though. Didn't they get a new writer because Awakening's story wasn't received that well? It's kinda weird the story is just as if not even worse than it.
I'm not bothered too much by this because at least I really really like the characters (which ARE a step up from Awakening's, where I felt some were too one note at times) and their supports, but ehhhhh.
Fates as an overall package was fantastic though. At this point it's probably my favorite Fire Emblem game with the great gameplay changes, fun/challenging maps, amazing music, great characters, great art, etc. If the game had a better story, it'd be near perfect in my eyes, but oh well...Still a really strong contender for my GOTY.
The story was alright, but I felt like it relied too much on plot conveniences at times. Corrin wasn't as much as a dumbass as he was in Conquest at least. I'm still kinda surprised the story was so mediocre/bad though. Didn't they get a new writer because Awakening's story wasn't received that well? It's kinda weird the story is just as if not even worse than it.
I'm not bothered too much by this because at least I really really like the characters (which ARE a step up from Awakening's, where I felt some were too one note at times) and their supports, but ehhhhh.
Fates as an overall package was fantastic though. At this point it's probably my favorite Fire Emblem game with the great gameplay changes, fun/challenging maps, amazing music, great characters, great art, etc. If the game had a better story, it'd be near perfect in my eyes, but oh well...Still a really strong contender for my GOTY.
Thanks, Know anything about Dark Falcon?
pokemonsquared
Banned
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I used this app.
Some of my pairings were pretty shit but I'm satisfied with most of them.
Except for Caleodori, Hisameh, and Shitgure. Those 3 just ended up sucking in comparison to everyone else and no amount of babying I gave them made them anywhere near as good as 9 mov nina, Ultimate Wereworlf Velouria, or 100% crit percy, Those were just some standouts from my museum melee grindfest. Every other child unit pulls a ton of weight too.