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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Finally finished Chapter 20. Call me an air bender because I mastered the shit out of that gimmick.
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chaosblade
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I don't think my Corrin was good yet in chapter 20. She was getting there though.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
My Corrin was trash until chapter 15. Her lone good trait was solid strength and accuracy, but she lacked defense and couldn't double anything despite having a speed boon. After 15 it's like she got aptitude. Lots of great levels. Speed practically every time. Doubles everything now (she doubled Ryoma in 25, lol) and has reliable defense and resistance.
The only other character I used that has been outright bad is Jakob. Not only did he get bad levels most of the time, but I reclassed him to Great Knight too late, trapping him with Bronze weapons when I really needed better ones. Silas hasn't been all that good either, but he's managed to stay just good enough for me to not ditch him as a liability.
The only other character I used that has been outright bad is Jakob. Not only did he get bad levels most of the time, but I reclassed him to Great Knight too late, trapping him with Bronze weapons when I really needed better ones. Silas hasn't been all that good either, but he's managed to stay just good enough for me to not ditch him as a liability.
I don't remember Percy having the sad music, so I was really worried there.
But finally, all children unlocked.
I've also captured all the bosses in Revelation too.
I can finally do chapter 18 now...
theprodigy
Member
You know you can do the paralogues later right? lol
My Corrin has only 12 speed at 20/6. and he has average def and single digit res. basically everything threatens him to death. It's a pain having to bring him to every battle only to babysit his ass.
Question: if I start a new Lunatic run later from the same Branch of Fates, am I gonna be stuck with a Corrin who is RNG doomed?
Question: if I start a new Lunatic run later from the same Branch of Fates, am I gonna be stuck with a Corrin who is RNG doomed?
Keep two or three units at the bottom to kill the adds down there as they spawn and just slowly clear up. It's not as hard as it looks.
Don't use any of the dragon veins or the adds will stack up to the point they can't be dealt with cleanly.
DeployThatPizza
Member
Yes, you will be stuck with the same level ups.
Otakumegane
Member
One day I want to try+ Mag -Speed Corrin with Wary fighter and legit just make him a pure dragonstone tank.
Do that, but do go with -Luck instead.
-Speed will drop your base Speed stat and tank your Speed growth. -Luck will tank your Luck growth, but Luck is a dump stat so it doesn't really matter. (Plus, Goddess Stones will ensure that your Luck will be high anyway).
Pair him (or her) up with Felicia/Jakob and you'll literally be indestructible.
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Question: Do paralogues get tougher the longer you wait to do them? Or what's the best time to take them on?
NeonZ
Member
They do. I'd wait until chapter 19, since then the children will come with an item that automatically promotes them. If you go in later chapters, the item levels them up automatically too, including weapon levels. Although I guess you can go earlier if you're planning to make them class change from their basic class, since the offspring seals aren't compatible with that - they need to stay in their original class in order to use them.
Playing on hard, all the paralogues available on Conquest were perfectly doable at end-game, but I've heard horror stories about Ryoma's son's paralogue (although I haven't tried it yet), and I needed two fliers for Ignatius' paralogue.
Dusted Chapter 21. The combination of Corrin being able to one shot Stoneborns and also
running as few units as possible
I love the Dragonstone+. It's so rad.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
herp derp
DeployThatPizza
Member
Don't forget to add Aegis/Pavise/Counter/Countermagic as your skills. Add Lifetaker too for the ultimate tank.
herp derp
That's when Jimmy the Stoneborn knew he had made a bad mistake.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Ryouma's paralogue is very simple if you have a leftover Rescur Stave or two since he starts surrounded. Xander's paralogue took me a whole day to beat on Lunatic because of infinite high level reinforcements. Strongly recommend doing it early.
Playing Birthright Lunatic, Ryoma's kid's basically required two rescue staffs for the stage I played it at (Ch 23.) That was just to get him out of the instant death zone, after that it was pretty straightforward.
DeployThatPizza
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Everyone recommends Rescue Staffs. I never really needed it and I recruited Shiro after 2 turns. I'm not sure why.
For me it was just that Shiro would get OHKO'd or ORKO'd by the promoted units around him, and I couldn't possibly get people up to take care of all of the enemies boxing him in. Even a single rescue staff would be dodgy at best since that still plops him down in the middle of a pretty large chunk of enemies.
Ultimately just using two staffs was easier.
DeployThatPizza
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Hard/classic birthright completed. Endgame done in a single turn becuase I was feeling lazy and since you can't save after there was no point in farming xp.
I still like conquest's story better but this was decent enough. Time to see if revelations is an improvement or worse. If nothing else I looking forward to the most broken team possible by mixing both cast.
Once I complete rev then the real fun begins. All one gender runs, all kids and bond units, maybe even all one class runs though I'd probably do those on normal not hard.
I still like conquest's story better but this was decent enough. Time to see if revelations is an improvement or worse. If nothing else I looking forward to the most broken team possible by mixing both cast.
Once I complete rev then the real fun begins. All one gender runs, all kids and bond units, maybe even all one class runs though I'd probably do those on normal not hard.
Finally beat conquest, only route i've beaten. Took a month and a half, wasn't really playing anything else during that time except a bit of darkest dungeon, so yeah, wasn't really into it. Mediocre to bad FE overall I thought.
I'd heard that Conquest was supposed to be more of a classic FE campaign, but it didn't feel like it. Mainly because of the stupid kids necessitating a support grind, which is only doable if you buy the dlc. So instead of a tight game like 7 or 9 it felt more like the grindy 8 or Awakening.
Also felt like almost all my units except for like 3 were rng screwed, everybody had horrible stats, with only a couple of units with any defense at all. Meanwhile enemy mages have 50 hp and 24 defense, which is more than all but a couple of my units. In the past games at least low def units had high speed, but it seems like every enemy unit in this game had way too much skill, so I never got to dodge reliably. My avatar was garbage, so jealous of that screenshot showing a 49 damage dragonstone attack. My attacks were in the teens.
The XP and gold dlc maps were complete garbage, and I only used them to grind supports. XP gains were stingy as hell for how hard the units hit and the fact that it was easy to die if you weren't careful. Half the time on the gold maps I never had any units respawn besides the starting ones.
It's going to be really hard to force myself to play the other 2 routes, and I doubt I ever will. Did not have a good time with this game at all.
I'd heard that Conquest was supposed to be more of a classic FE campaign, but it didn't feel like it. Mainly because of the stupid kids necessitating a support grind, which is only doable if you buy the dlc. So instead of a tight game like 7 or 9 it felt more like the grindy 8 or Awakening.
Also felt like almost all my units except for like 3 were rng screwed, everybody had horrible stats, with only a couple of units with any defense at all. Meanwhile enemy mages have 50 hp and 24 defense, which is more than all but a couple of my units. In the past games at least low def units had high speed, but it seems like every enemy unit in this game had way too much skill, so I never got to dodge reliably. My avatar was garbage, so jealous of that screenshot showing a 49 damage dragonstone attack. My attacks were in the teens.
The XP and gold dlc maps were complete garbage, and I only used them to grind supports. XP gains were stingy as hell for how hard the units hit and the fact that it was easy to die if you weren't careful. Half the time on the gold maps I never had any units respawn besides the starting ones.
It's going to be really hard to force myself to play the other 2 routes, and I doubt I ever will. Did not have a good time with this game at all.
Paradise Brunch
Member
Astra + lodestar animation is brutal.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Most devastating loss I've had was Selena at the very end of Conquest 23. Hit with what would have been a killing shot but the enemy proc'd miracle then countered with a 1% crit that did just enough to kill me.
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NeonZ
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You could just have gone for Castles battles - it's much faster than the grinding for supports in those two DLC maps, and you won't add experience and money that shouldn't be there, since the only thing you can get in those battles is support points. But, yes. if you want all children you'll pretty much need to grind. It's considered close to classic FE exactly because even if you want to grind supports in those extra battles you won't get extra money or experience from them, so you need to manage with only the resources you get in the main campaign and paralogues, unless you specifically buy the DLC just for it.
There's also the map design, with more closed areas and choke-points alongside varied objectives - although in the end, I think the varied enemy skills and a few stage gimmicks end up being more relevant for the map design than the multiple objectives, so that part isn't really close to older FE games. Even Radiant Dawn went out of its way to avoid giving the enemy many skills by not giving them the real 3rd tier classes.
Also, you can capture enemy units if you think that they're so much better than your own... although I guess that's only doable if you had been using Niles. My end game team for the final mission had three unique boss characters (Haitaka, Kumagera, Gazack) and one generic.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
If you care about a balanced experience you shouldn't be trying to get all the children...
The game is clearly designed for you to focus on a core group and get the kids you can from that group. It's paced and balanced perfectly if you play that way. Such a weird complaint to me, I've never spent time "grinding supports" with 130 hours of Fates.
The game is clearly designed for you to focus on a core group and get the kids you can from that group. It's paced and balanced perfectly if you play that way. Such a weird complaint to me, I've never spent time "grinding supports" with 130 hours of Fates.
Skyball Paint
Member
Wait a minute
If that's true, why is it that you get different level ups when you reset a map?
DeployThatPizza
Member
Resetting for better level ups doesn't work on Lunatic Difficulty. The RNG is set there. Leveling up is different from the Branch of Fates. The Branch of Fates starts you out at the most recent time you completed it, meaning you will be stuck with the same stats as last time. Now, if you're going for the same boon or bane, that's fine.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I'm on chapter 26 and don't even have anybody the kids. I still don't know that I would say Conquest feels entirely like a classic FE game, since a lot of the maps have substantial gimmicks.
DeployThatPizza
Member
I'm a completionist, so not getting all the kids will bug me. On Conquest, it's nice exp even if I don't use the kid.
On Revelations, it's not too hard to get the kids.
On Revelations, it's not too hard to get the kids.
Freaking Limit
Member
That is pretty neat. Some of the deliveries for those crit lines feel a bit off once you hear them done together (Peri, and Niles for me. Alone they are fine, together it feels off). Never noticed that though, so its a nice suprise. I do like that Silas and Kaze share one too, since I've always seen them as Corrin's retainers (and really, they basically are).
How did I never noticed that before?!
I wish that Elise's retainer shared her 'you're going down, scumbag!'. Top tier crit quote tbh.
Wow never noticed.
Wish there was triangle attacks in this game. Would seem very fitting.
Triforce141
Member
Scarlet? She dies for story purposes, and I hope to god that IS doesn't make free DLC that brings her back
Story reasons. Its sad cause she was my waifu in Birthright ;-;
She also dies pretty brutally in Conquest as well
She also dies pretty brutally in Conquest as well
Yeah, noticed this a while back. Xander and his retainer is probably my fav (dig Liam O Brian's delivery).
Life isn't fair.
It apparently still happens even if your marry her lol
NeonZ
Member
Every DLC so far is compatible with all routes,
so I don't think you need to worry about that, since it'd need to be Revelation-only. Unless each route got a different character, but IS seems too lazy for that with their DLC.
Almost all the prizes from Fates' DLC maps have been on cart, only the maps themselves are DLC. I think some of the class change seals and skill scrolls weren't on cart, but in those cases the skills and classes themselves already were on cart, you're still mostly downloading the map. Anna's isn't any different from the others in that sense.
Corrin has some of the coolest lines in the game. You can't skip him/her
Oh woops, retainer video was already posted.