Uh-huh. They give you no reason to choose Nohr from a story perspective and it sucks.
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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Uh-huh. They give you no reason to choose Nohr from a story perspective and it sucks.
I started with Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn and I thought the story was really great.
Was a bit disappointed in Awakening's smaller scale story but the characters and support conversations are what makes it shine. I expect the same of Fates.
My biggest gripe in Fates is how the handle My Castle in the story, which was way too convenient (borderline on lazy).
Now that I think of it, there wasn't really any point in customizing Corrin. In the two previous games, we're playing a tactician "avatar" and it makes sense if players want to represent themselves. Now we're simply playing Corrin, and his/her default appearance is pretty much everywhere...except in the game itself.
Story is super rushed in the beginning and the gameplay sections aren't the best. On chapter 7 Birthright now and it feels pretty good to have a substantial mission to play again. While the beginning is really weird and fast paced I guess they just wanted to get to the big decision ASAP so the actual game can start.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Conquest has so much map variety wtf. Is Birthright similar? There was this chapter were I was trying to find the Rainbow Sage or whatever and the map was super unique in that there were two paths to chose and stairs would lead you to other rooms.
Yeah, I assume this is likely the case.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I tried going straight into battle on the 4th mission (iirc) and got destroyed. I wasn't thinking about my surroundings. I bought Birthright. It's a very fresh feeling after waiting a while.
I like how they aren't cheap and easy missions. You have to think before it starts to get hard.
I like how they aren't cheap and easy missions. You have to think before it starts to get hard.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Ugh, chapter 12 conquest is a pain in the ass.
When the debuffs from ninjas start reaching -3/-4 on multiple stats, along with a skill that auto-chunk 5 hp, and you only have one real healer.....
Shit suuuuuucks, lol. 'Harder' than 10, imo.
When the debuffs from ninjas start reaching -3/-4 on multiple stats, along with a skill that auto-chunk 5 hp, and you only have one real healer.....
Shit suuuuuucks, lol. 'Harder' than 10, imo.
Played the first 3 missions. I like it a lot. Going to put crazy ammounts of time into this game...but let me complain a bit lol.
- The story is super ...jumpy. It throws you in there, the runs it back...but not really because it doesn't explain much either. The characters met so far are also off...but that might be the point.
- This Corrin VA I chose sucks ass. Probably will have to start over because wow. Corrin also seems like cool than Robin was personality wise
just a few initial things that are sticking out to me.
- The story is super ...jumpy. It throws you in there, the runs it back...but not really because it doesn't explain much either. The characters met so far are also off...but that might be the point.
- This Corrin VA I chose sucks ass. Probably will have to start over because wow. Corrin also seems like cool than Robin was personality wise
just a few initial things that are sticking out to me.
They didn't do a good enough job of establishing the non-King characters. They're banking on your desire to be with the other characters, but the player just met them and there's not enough of a connection to offset the other stuff going on. It's definitely very weird. Like they thought that that a clingy little girl and a woman with boobs would be enough to sway people.
Oh yeah. You are no way strong enough to beat Ryouma. You seriously need to cheese this chapter on lunatic and avoid Kagerou/Saizou at all costs. Having Kamilla and Corrin cheese through and the rest of your army take care of the archer reinforcements will help.
I laugh that it says escape in 16 turns or defeat Ryouma, cause you sure as hell not gonna kill Ryouma unless you skill grind or sacrifice a unit or hope you crit and you sure as hell gonna take 14-16 turns to escape.
Pot breaking roulette is fun too. Oh this is a bad pot? okay it will just debuff or get rid of 6 HP. NOPE my max HP gets halved for the entire battle. It's hilarious.
Going through the middle is like asking to commit suicide. Going through the right is much more manageable.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
If the threads leading up to release are any indication, it definitely seems to have worked for part of audience.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
This Chapter 12 mission is going to make me kill myself jesus fuck
Like I just got through Chapter 10 please go easy on me game ;_;
Like I just got through Chapter 10 please go easy on me game ;_;
Loving this so far, on Chapter 9 of Birthright at this point. Rinka is a badass, definitely one of my best units so far, been getting alot of +Str growths for her and she just tanks everything and deal massive damage when attacking especially with another character at her side. Corrin has been raising ok in stats, had a few levels where it was like 1 stat point on level up, he also has been working as a tank like character to take hits and having my other lower level troops come in to finish enemies off. Been playing on Hard Classic and feel that the difficulty has been perfect for me so far. I usually am not great at these types of games, but I still do like the challenge and like pushing myself onto classic cause I tend to be more cautious with my moves when I know in my head that if I die I lose a character
The Nohr opening is infinitely more compelling
Corrin's relationship with King Garon is one of the few interesting things about the story
It's been a while, but I think I remember correctly, but the pot icons on the bottom screen map are tinted different colors that hint which ones are which. Unless my brain made this up, but I remember there being some kind of hint related to the map and color....
Ugh, I'm on this map right now. Conquest's Hard is hard.
And I want to kill Arthur. His hit-rate is ATROCIOUS.
Been playing Birthright (just finished chapter 9) and have been loving it the entire way through. It definitely feels like an Awakening+, but with a lot more polish. Love the new changes to the pair up mechanics in particular; really feels like I actually have to put thought into it without just mindless pairing up with no downside. I'm really looking forward to Conquest once I get to that, but been having a blast with Birthright all the same.
The story is admittedly kinda just "okay"; beginning definitely feels rushed because it definitely feels like they wanted you to make your choice asap, but after making the choice, it definitely feels better paced. And I really like the characters in this game too. And surprisingly, I was kinda skeptical before, but the English Dub is a lot better than I expected. Or maybe I've just gotten used to it, I dunno, but it's not as bad as I was led to believe. Music's generally pretty awesome too. Hana/Oboro/Hinoka are prolly my fav units so far with Silas/Setsuna/the ninja boys not too far behind. Wish my Felicia would stop getting RNG screwed over though. >_>;
The story is admittedly kinda just "okay"; beginning definitely feels rushed because it definitely feels like they wanted you to make your choice asap, but after making the choice, it definitely feels better paced. And I really like the characters in this game too. And surprisingly, I was kinda skeptical before, but the English Dub is a lot better than I expected. Or maybe I've just gotten used to it, I dunno, but it's not as bad as I was led to believe. Music's generally pretty awesome too. Hana/Oboro/Hinoka are prolly my fav units so far with Silas/Setsuna/the ninja boys not too far behind. Wish my Felicia would stop getting RNG screwed over though. >_>;
SuperChoco
Member
lmao at chapter 12 birthright
non story spoiler
non story spoiler
Corrin has to escape to a certain location on the map. Surrounded by water, you're supposed to use a dragon vein to freeze the water. But nothing stops you from pairing up with a pegasus knight and flying over the water. Literally beat it without any unit battling.
Press X if that's what you mean. Like the enemy movement or actual gridlines.
MetalGearOnlineK
Member
Had my first death tonight, Chapter 10 of Birthright. My character had an 80% chance of hitting the boss, and he missed the attack AND the double attack. The boss responded to this with criticaling on a 5% chance. YEP, this is Fire Emblem alright.
Just starting chapter 13 now. I'm going to have to start promoting soon.
Just starting chapter 13 now. I'm going to have to start promoting soon.
I forgot how little my poor heart can take when it comes to FE RNG.
THE CHIN OF JUSTICE PREVAILS!
THE CHIN OF JUSTICE PREVAILS!
EndlessSky
Member
I actually think the exact opposite. But only with the assumption that the player knows (very general over arching story plot they told in a treehouse talk):
that the choices are to choose Hoshido to stop Nohr, or choose Nohr to stop the from the inside and not to actually side with the evil king
dreamlongdead
Member
I'm currently stuck on Chapter 10 Conquest. I still haven't discovered a good strategy yet.
Until then, I'm going to invest a lot of tonics and see how much that helps me. My characters are getting ready to use Steel Weapons, too. I have to use that 10000 Gold from Chapter 8 wisely.
I didn't expect the missions to be this hard.
Until then, I'm going to invest a lot of tonics and see how much that helps me. My characters are getting ready to use Steel Weapons, too. I have to use that 10000 Gold from Chapter 8 wisely.
I didn't expect the missions to be this hard.
I was not referring to the enemy's area (which is in red), but rather the faint gray lines that used to cover the maps in past titles.
You can clearly see them below in these screenshots from Awakening:
The Fates maps look... naked without them.
And I hope these images are spoiler free.
Gave a tip earlier. There's no need to spend money on potions if you play smart. You might need to promote a unit early but it is doable without it. Having a Great Knight will help this chapter a lot.
Oh you mean like the ones in Path of Radiance? I don't remember there being an option for it in this game. Not all past Fire Emblem games had a complete grid tho.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The Fates maps look... naked without them.
And I hope these images are spoiler free.
Not even an option in the settings? At least in some of the previous games I know you could change how dark or faint the grid was, including removing it entirely.
Would be disappointing if there was no option to enable it.
I did not use him, I used the character you get from the first side quest. I had to restart so many times to find a way to stop the 2 villages on the left, freeze is the best spell on this map.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Shun's strategy is really good, I got through that hellhole using it.
Maybe I'm blind, but I do not see any toggles within any of the menus. It seems to have been removed, unfortunately.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
A shame, I prefer having the grind. Hardly the first time it didn't show up for battle though, IIRC the GBA and DS games didn't have the grid either. PoR, RD, and Awakening were the ones that did have it. Not familiar with prior games.
Basically this I'd say. Questionable isn't the word I'd use for FE's writing prior to Awakening. At worst, they'd at least be serviceable like Sacred Stones with decent writing and a basic story. At best, they could offer some genuine twists, world building, political intrigue, etc.
As for Fates, I'm only up to Chapter 4 but the speed at which things have been moving has been preeetttty funny so far. At least the gameplay seems much improved from Awakening!
This game is so much better than Awakening is crazy. I just finished Chapter 9 in Birthright and it amazed how a few changes to the gameplay mechanics can make such a difference. Having to decide between attacking and defensive pair ups adds a great layer of depth and strategy to the gameplay.
I don't even mind the lack of mission variety in Birthright when you have can tackle them in so many ways due to the expansive maps.
The music is awesome too.
I don't even mind the lack of mission variety in Birthright when you have can tackle them in so many ways due to the expansive maps.
The music is awesome too.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
The chapter 6 choice is so stupid. You are forced to pick the unlikeliest answer just so you can play the better game. Probably my biggest nitpick a game can do.
victreeb3l
Member
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
The only ones I'd say reach decent to good territory is PoR/RD, and that has more to do with the world building the games manage than the main plot. Plus RD falls off a cliff as you get closer to the end, all the interesting stuff gets shoved aside in favor of generic and cliched nonsense to make sure it gets a "JRPG ending."
phoenix296
Member
Chapter 8 of Conquest hard was pretty difficult but I managed to get it in less than 5 tries + the bonus objective. It's all about leap frogging units with horseriders and using the dragon veins asap.
Doing Birthright Hard Mode out the gate and am up to Chapter 6. Chapter 5 was my only stumbling block for awhile, as there reached a moment where it didn't seem like I had enough attacks to clear what I needed to do in one turn. Trying to get my weaker characters to pick up the slack was a challenge.
I really like the new Ninja class. They feel like they might create some scary support scenarios in the late game with their debuffs.
I really like the new Ninja class. They feel like they might create some scary support scenarios in the late game with their debuffs.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
I will say, after beating chapter 12, that Felicia with a magic-based shuriken is like night and day.
Went from 0 per hit to 13, lol.
Only playing on hard, I think lunatic without knowing the ins and outs of each chapter would drive me insane.
Managed to smoke Ryoma with Felicia + song-skilled Aqua, tho.
Boon gives a % increase to the chance of getting a specific stat when you level up, bane is the inverse - they help you if you want to go for a certain build.
Talent, I believe, refers to the 'heart-seal' re-classing option for the protagonist.
Went from 0 per hit to 13, lol.
Only playing on hard, I think lunatic without knowing the ins and outs of each chapter would drive me insane.
Managed to smoke Ryoma with Felicia + song-skilled Aqua, tho.
Boon gives a % increase to the chance of getting a specific stat when you level up, bane is the inverse - they help you if you want to go for a certain build.
Talent, I believe, refers to the 'heart-seal' re-classing option for the protagonist.
//ARCANUM
Member
Sweet! Thank you! Don't know why I was having so much trouble finding that!