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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't

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Your Entertainer

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Great game so far. Playing conquest. Already sick of the blatant guilt tripping for choosing this path haha. And the modern anime style is somewhat off putting. But otherwise, enjoying it.
 
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Snapshot King

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Hey folks, new to the series here. Awakening never really clicked for me, as the pair up mechanic really irked me. Im familiar with Shining Force and FFT, and was looking forward to another strategy rpg, but was bummed out by the limited actions any one unit cold perform, and having to pair up nearly all your units to have them be worth anything drove me nuts.

Would this one be more up my alley or what?
 
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Splendor

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So I am trying to get the other 2 versions with my digital game and I got Conquest, but everytime I try to buy Revelations it says that no downloadable content is avalible. Anyone else having this problem?
 
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CSX

Member
Splendor said:
So I am trying to get the other 2 versions with my digital game and I got Conquest, but everytime I try to buy Revelations it says that no downloadable content is avalible. Anyone else having this problem?
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Revelation not out till March 10th

Only people playing it got early access via Special Edition
 
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SliceSabre

Banned
Snapshot King said:
Hey folks, new to the series here. Awakening never really clicked for me, as the pair up mechanic really irked me. Im familiar with Shining Force and FFT, and was looking forward to another strategy rpg, but was bummed out by the limited actions any one unit cold perform, and having to pair up nearly all your units to have them be worth anything drove me nuts.

Would this one be more up my alley or what?
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Absolutely not since the pair up is even more vital now that the enemies can do it and some of the changes made.
 
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Azuran

Banned
Snapshot King said:
Hey folks, new to the series here. Awakening never really clicked for me, as the pair up mechanic really irked me. Im familiar with Shining Force and FFT, and was looking forward to another strategy rpg, but was bummed out by the limited actions any one unit cold perform, and having to pair up nearly all your units to have them be worth anything drove me nuts.

Would this one be more up my alley or what?
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Pair up is way different in this game than in Awakening. When pairing up two characters, support units provide attack and defensive bonuses but they will never attack which means you can't just blow through the game. However, you can have two units attacking at the same time if they're adjacent to each other but they won't provide bonuses. This means positioning is even more important than Awakening. Also don't forget enemy units can team up now too.

It's pretty much a stance-like system now and the game is better for it.
 
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Vex_

Banned
TharpDaddy said:
I give, I changed my difficulty from Hard to Normal on Conquest. Avert your eyes from my shame.
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You should probably just throw your 3ds in the garbage.
 
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ryseing

Member
Snapshot King said:
Hey folks, new to the series here. Awakening never really clicked for me, as the pair up mechanic really irked me. Im familiar with Shining Force and FFT, and was looking forward to another strategy rpg, but was bummed out by the limited actions any one unit cold perform, and having to pair up nearly all your units to have them be worth anything drove me nuts.

Would this one be more up my alley or what?
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Just a thought- maybe try the older games? Pair up is only an Awakening/Fates thing.
 
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Snapshot King

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Azuran said:
Pair up is way different in this game than in Awakening. When pairing up two characters, support units provide attack and defensive bonuses but they will never attack which means you can't just blow through the game. However, you can have two units attacking at the same time if they're adjacent to each other but they won't provide bonuses. This means positioning is even more important than Awakening. Also don't forget enemy units can team up now too.

It's pretty much a stance-like system now and the game is better for it.
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What do you mean it's a stance like system. You mean that pairing up is defense and splitting up would be offense, then?
 
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Vex_

Banned
So far:


Gameplay - Best its ever been (again)
Graphics - Better than last entry
Level design - Great
Art - Better than last entry.
Story - ASS
Characters- A letdown. They don't have that synergy like Awakening. This game makes me miss the old character"s stories and interactions.
Difficulty - Perfect (playing on hard which feels like the "right" difficulty)


Birthright. Still early on.
 
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SliceSabre

Banned
Oh shit I'm already about to hit S Support with Jakob. He's just so god damn versatile I can't help always being near him. He's not even the guy I want o marry, strictly a master servant relationship.

Also Mozu Archer is Da Gawd. Her and Silas wreck shit when I have them together. They are SOOOO getting married.
 
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Captain Rage Quit 69

Banned
Just started, on chapter 7 Conquest and the game is already showing no mercy. Playing Hard Classic, I can't imagine how it would be like on Lunatic. Doesn't help that there currently isn't any Jeigans to soften up dudes, meaning extra emphasis on keeping your dudes positioned well.

Don't think I ever had this challenge in Awakening's base game on Hard. :p
 
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Snapshot King

Member
Azuran said:
Yup. You're better off leaving characters unpaired if you plan on going offensive.
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Well at least there's a reason to do so now. Eh, I'll give it a shot. Lemme ask the tired question though. Difficulty modes? The thing I never understood about the permadeath mechanic in fire emblem, is that it seems so punishing that everyone would just reset their game if a single person died. How is that functionally any different than just using the non permadeath option?
 
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Captain Rage Quit 69

Banned
Snapshot King said:
Well at least there's a reason to do so now. Eh, I'll give it a shot. Lemme ask the tired question though. Difficulty modes? The thing I never understood about the permadeath mechanic in fire emblem, is that it seems so punishing that everyone would just reset their game if a single person died. How is that functionally any different than just using the non permadeath option?
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It basically turns the game over condition into "let anyone die" versus "let the Lord die." Casual mode however doesn't punish you for that; even if someone dies, they'll be back after the mission anyway.

Not everyone chooses to play like this of course, it's purely for the desire of challenge and trying to find the optimal strategy to clear maps without characters dying. At least IMO.
 
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GSR

Member
Snapshot King said:
Well at least there's a reason to do so now. Eh, I'll give it a shot. Lemme ask the tired question though. Difficulty modes? The thing I never understood about the permadeath mechanic in fire emblem, is that it seems so punishing that everyone would just reset their game if a single person died. How is that functionally any different than just using the non permadeath option?
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Because if you're playing on Casual instead of Classic, you can easily make use of way riskier tactics, or even use straight-up sacrificial ones. It doesn't matter if you lose the Paladin you've been training for 20 chapters by sending him into a horde of Berserkers, because he'll be back the next mission - and now you don't have as many Berserkers to deal with!
 
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Snapshot King

Member
GSR said:
Because if you're playing on Casual instead of Classic, you can easily make use of way riskier tactics, or even use straight-up sacrificial ones. It doesn't matter if you lose the Paladin you've been training for 20 chapters by sending him into a horde of Berserkers, because he'll be back the next mission - and now you don't have as many Berserkers to deal with!
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I suppose, but resetting the game over and over seems just as sacrificial, just you're sacrificing your time instead of your character. That being said, with permadeath, doesn't that make it so that the game can reach an X-com level fail state, where you don't have enough units to field to even beat the game?
 
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Ponn

Banned
I don't like Arthur. Is he a good unit, should I suffer for his sins or can I forget about him. Is it worth working on Mozu like that guy from Awakening?
 
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Gaz_RB

Member
Ponn01 said:
I don't like Arthur. Is he a good unit, should I suffer for his sins or can I forget about him. Is it worth working on Mozu like that guy from Awakening?
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He's good, but he pretty much always needs a homie next to him or he can't hit shit
 
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Shun

Member
Immaculate said:
Whats the reward for saving atleast 3 houses in chapter 8 Conquest? I can only get to two of them and get 5K gold.
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It's not designed to be possible on the higher difficulties without dying or grinding.

TharpDaddy said:
I give, I changed my difficulty from Hard to Normal on Conquest. Avert your eyes from my shame.
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nooo keep at it.

John Harker said:
Is one version longer than the other?
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Revelation is longer in the sense in that you get everyone and there is so much shit to do.

Conquest is longer in the sense that it's harder and you will take more time playing through because difficulty.

Birthright is longer cause you can just grind all day, but you can do that in Revelation.

So Revleation > Conquest >> Birthright I guess. Length is subjective depending on your difficulty and what you want to do in the game. The chapter length is basically the same save for Revelation and it is really dependent on how you play the game.
 
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