Xenoflare
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This is one of the few instances where spoiling for me made the game better because I can appreciate the game play while already accepted the borderline offensively dumb story before I got the game
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This is one of the few instances where spoiling for me made the game better because I can appreciate the game play while already accepted the borderline offensively dumb story before I got the game
Same. Metal Gear Solid and Fire Emblem are the two series for me where their terrible stories don't detract from the excellent gameplay.
Triforce141
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What difficulties on Conquest/Revelations would give me a challenge that's comparable to Minimal Grinding Birthright Hard?
Silas, Jakob, and Subaki for physical attacks, and Hinoka for magic attacks.
Not everyone here is a guy/playing with guy Corrin.
I think I'll marry Silas or Saizo in Birthright, someone in Conquest, and Jakob in Revelation.
DecoReturns
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As much as don't care for the story.
The support conversations among the characters are much better in my opinion.
The support conversations among the characters are much better in my opinion.
sorakirosaki
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and thats honestly what i need to hear
fe:6 had some pretty boring supports roys and hectors daughter's is especially boring
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I'll give them that the support conversations are really good despite certain characters having a one note gimmick.
Admiral Woofington
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phoenix296
Member
Finally beat chapter 10 Conquest hard while visiting all the villages. No really strategy I can think of other than use the center ballista and fire orb as often as you can until
. After that it's just up to smart positioning to keep all of your characters alive. I did use a defense boost item on Arthur to help him hold a choke point.
Takumi uses the dragon vein
MissDeviling
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Kaze dodge tanks pretty well later on, but I try not to risk him with axe users. Birthright characters are pretty squishy in general, though. Subaki is OK and you can always cheat with Ryoma. Takumi takes hits alright too.
Magic tanking is super easy this game though, since you got Orochi, the 3 ninjas, and your pegasus knights.
Axelstream
Member
Yeah, that was. Ugh.
And you couple that with GOSH WHO WAS THAT DANCER?? in the chapter immediately preceding, which left a bad taste in my mouth after a pretty cool-looking CG cutscene...
My disappointment with this story is only mounting. When you guys criticized it in the import thread I was expecting something loony or absurd, but instead almost every moment is just incredibly lazy and workmanlike, which is way worse. In cutscenes the characters talk in this stilted, every-line-must-move-the-plot way. In general the dialogue is somehow lacking in the flavor that Awakening had. I don't know if I'm just seeing Awakening through rose-tinted glasses now, but I actually thought that game did a nice job in getting me to care about the characters and what was happening to them. Meanwhile, in Conquest, it feels like the writer has no love for his characters, and this is a story setup that actually needs that passion more than Awakening did. Really sad that such a cool concept for a Fire Emblem story gets squandered on this half-assed script.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
While it's not my favorite, it's not the worst story in a game. There was a time when the only plot an RPG needed was "this guy is bad and wants to destroy the world." The one thing I had some trouble with (and I've accepted it and moved on) was how easy it was for
Corrin to become MGS3's The Boss and play the part of the bad guy to save the world.
It's really so bad that it makes Awakening's story look good in retrospect? Yikes.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Well, he should have a little experience
Chapter 15 is ridiculous, the story jumps off a cliff in 2 consecutive chapters and it's amazing.VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Should I promote Ninjas to Master Ninja or Mechanist?
I read the second skill that Mechanist's get and it seems pretty strong (
).
I read the second skill that Mechanist's get and it seems pretty strong (
creates a double once per map that has the same stats and inventory/no support bonus though
Xenoflare
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I was going to go for Mechanist because that can salvage Kaze's abysmal Str growth on me but I'm not so sure about the speed.
It takes forever to get it, you're better off with Ninja and reclassing for the puppet skill at lv.15
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
On Conquest right now and this stuff is meat grinder that will seriously challange you.
I heard Birthright Hard is comparable to Conquest Normal but only on Reddit so...
Almost completed the Conquest route!
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Guess I'll go with Master Ninja for now then do the reclassing thing.
So I guess this game isn't like Awakening where you can keep resetting your level until you max out every stat?
Correct. Changing class just changes class, your level remains where it is. You gain skills you've "missed" for that class line at a rate of 1 per level after that.
There is an item that raises your level cap, but it's very expensive.
A tip though: if you're using Felicia or Jakob, once they get past level 15 try switching classes for them around. They're strange units that technically start in a promoted class with unpromoted stats, so they go up to 40. That means both a. they hit the level (15 promoted) where you get really good skills early and b. they have plenty of room to swap classes and pick up skills without worrying about the level cap.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Fucking hell, yes! The writers seriously must have wanked themselves too hard on Birthright (haven't started it yet) because the story for Conquest is so terrible. Stop telling me choosing Conquest was a bad choice ya bloody asshats!
phoenix296
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The ninja room in Conquest chpt 11 juggled Effie right to Kaze before killing her. T_T
I dunno,
"there's a kingdom that's definitely involved in all this but you can't speak about it or you instantly die also the king's a monster but I can only show this to you now we have to go conquer Hoshido so he can sit on a magic throne that will show he's a monster"
Also re chapter 14: I feel like so many plot developments in Conquest could end with [Azura looks directly into the camera like she's on The Office]
Xenoflare
Member
I ended up reclassing him as Mechanist anyways because in the end Str is important to me, I was in the same situation with you haha.
Conquest won't give exp on My castle battles either right?
It won't give EXP for online battles, but it will for the three set versus-AI My Castle battles that pop up over the campaign.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Alright then, I'll look into getting some seals from the shop for Jakob. Those shop seals replenish over time right?
That does sound appealing actually. Because my Kaze has a crap ton of speed but low strength. If going Mechanist will help fix that then I can just reclass him to Master Ninja at 15 for the 2 Master Ninja skills.
Not gonna lie, I'm missing having the wiggle room. My level ups are abysmal.
MHWilliams
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Bonen no Max'd
Banned
How early is too early for promotion? Kaze currently has 23 HP, 11 Strength, 17 Skill, 23 Speed, 5 Luck, 9 Defense, and 18 Resistance at level 14 and I was thinking that it was about time to promote him but I don't really know how valuable getting the most out of growths is in this game so should I stick around a bit longer as a ninja or is waiting until he hits 20 valuable, or should I just get the boost now and let him wreck even harder?
As a rule of thumb: unless you absolutely need a promoted unit now for some reason, wait until level 20 to promote. Those are six levels you'll never get back otherwise (save for using a very expensive item to raise your level cap.)
KnightBuster
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I'm getting a lot of supports because I always play using defense stance (I'm too chicken to use adjacent outside boss attacks). And Niles' supports are hilarious.
"Did you want my clothes off so badly that you'd spill hot soup on them?"
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Older Fire Emblem except from Awakening don't really have an endgame after you beat the story so it's not really as important.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
By endgame I mean the final portion of the game, not post-epilogue gameplay.
You get a new skill every level up starting from the base class, then the promoted class skills.
I know, my Hinoka is level 4 Basara. but instead of getting Rend Heaven, I'm getting Seal Defense which is not Basara's skill.
Burning Justice
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You get skills that you don't already have from the base version of the class as well as the promoted version. Seal Defense is a Spear Fighter skill. Basara promotes from Spear Fighter.
Keep leveling her up, you will eventually get Rend Heaven.
QuixoticNeutral
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Awakening spoiled me rotten with its infinite supply of staves, particularly the Rescue staff with its outrageous range once you levelled up your staff users. I was being cautious about staff usage in Conquest since the durability was so low, and pretty much the only spending I've been doing in the shop has been to replenish my heals, but then in Chapter 11
. I could always buy more, I thought.
It was not wholly pleasant to return to my castle afterwards and find that I had already emptied my shop of Freeze staves.
(Conquest Ch. 10)
support conversations are as endearing as I had hoped. It turns out I may be a sucker for fan service after all.
the only strategy I could think of to clear out the Room of the Lunging Ninjas on the left-hand side was to have my two staff users lock down the Ninjas with Freeze so I could pick them off without them chain-killing any of my units on the next turn
It was not wholly pleasant to return to my castle afterwards and find that I had already emptied my shop of Freeze staves.
(Conquest Ch. 10)
Odin and Selena's