TheSlySoul
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If you mean Hoshido, then Diviners are the magic class.
Magic got majorly nerfed. Use Ninjas instead
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Fire Emblem Fates |OT| Nohr does what Hoshidon't
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Thanks! Was able to grab the dracoshirld then bail. Held out for a while to get exp too. Those great knights are tough!
Loving the game so far! The music in Lillith's temple is so good (as is much of the music in the game).
Do most people here turn battle animations off or leave them on? The transition is done so well in this game that I like to leave them on, but time wise it's tough. Just been turning them off if I have to restart a mission so far.
SliceSabre
Banned
Overcompensation for how op they were in Awakening. Some of the kids are really really good though.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
So Elise is actually a god now, lol. She does really good damage with a shitty E-rank Fire tome.
Like in every game I have battle animations on and support animations off.
Is that the one where you're in hoshido after the ritual?
Use Corrin as your main point guard unit despite the wyrmslayers. Just don't let both of them get to you at the same turn. Take it as slow as you can and be smart about pairing up and using stand alone units.
You can use a heart seal to change her to an archer. She doesn't learn more skills as villager after level 10 so you should switch as quick as possible if you wanna keep using her now. The archer skills will be picked up at level 13 and 14 in his case.
Not sure what she promotes as villager now that I think about it.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
villager is kindve a weird base class in this. Maxes out at 20 and promotes to a 2nd tier class (Merchant or weapon master).
Villager is just weak starting, but Mozu's stat gains are great and she gets aptitude
The music is orgasmic, No Justice is my favorite so far. Also I usually keep the animations on, but I always fast forward on impulse. It somehow makes the fights funner to watch.
HylianHero12
Member
I leave them on but hold L at the beginning of an animation to skip it if I am trying to go faster.
Triforce141
Member
Villager works just like any normal class now, where it has 2 promoted classes to choose from (Master of Arms and Merchant)
My only reason for making her a Merchant is because that's the class she has on one of the Cipher cards.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
Camilla, Niles, and Effie are the holy trinity. They have saved my ass so much ;__;
Niles, Effie, and Keaton for me. I've since moved on from Niles for his daughter.
Astral/H3X
Member
After so many games giving Knights the shaft, I am SO glad to have Effie, and so glad I didn't dismiss her. I'm probably going to give her boots so she can keep pace with everyone else though.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Effie, Corrin, Selena are all insane in my save right now. Effie is a tank, but those two hit like trucks. Corrin is activating Luna, Astra, or Dragon Fang every fight. Selena I got Aptitude at a low level, and her stat growths have been so damn good.
I gave her boots on like chapter 7 lol
Effie really is a house, at level 6(26) general she has 30 STR and her class skill makes her speed irrelevant. She has more strength than my 9(29) Corrin with STR boon
Astral Dog
Member
Is Felicia a good unit? So far she seems, like the weaker of them all, with no talent.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I leveled her to 24 before deciding that shes weak. However at that point I realized I could heartstone her into a strategist and she got a lot better. She still seems not great, but she has 23 MAG and very high speed and skill, so I can usually get double hits off with her. So at this point im still using her as primarily a healer, but shes doing some killing when necessary
EDIT: At 24 maid she had 9 str, so the most she could do is hit units for 0 twice and inflict status down. Pretty crappy. Im moving daggers to Midori and making felicia healer/nuker
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Good healer and decent damage with the magic shuriken. I dropped her because of her voice though lol
Birthright 24 looked lame until I realized treating this map as pseudo-rout was a bad idea and that it was more "survive and clear a path for Ryouma to the boss" which he proceeded to ORKO as he does. OUGI indeed lol.
Razzorn34
Member
Man. I can't even beat Chapter 5 Hard. I feel like I'm missing something important, but I have no idea what. All of my units die so easily. Is there some mechanic I'm missing?
I've been using Kaze/Rinkah, and Azura/Sakura pairs. I let Corrin tank anything without a wyrmslayer, and use Azura to double her turns to make sure the wyrmslayers are dead if near. Kaze/Rinkah seem worthless for anything but luring. They die in 2 turns at best, and can't take out anything in 1 turn. I've worked through most of the enemy units, but a stray mage or something always ends up ruining everything.
Should I be pairing up? Not pairing up? Is there anything else I should be doing? My outlook on finishing this game on Hard is pretty bleak already, and I finished Awakening on Hard. If the rest of the game is this way, I might have to take the step down.
I've been using Kaze/Rinkah, and Azura/Sakura pairs. I let Corrin tank anything without a wyrmslayer, and use Azura to double her turns to make sure the wyrmslayers are dead if near. Kaze/Rinkah seem worthless for anything but luring. They die in 2 turns at best, and can't take out anything in 1 turn. I've worked through most of the enemy units, but a stray mage or something always ends up ruining everything.
Should I be pairing up? Not pairing up? Is there anything else I should be doing? My outlook on finishing this game on Hard is pretty bleak already, and I finished Awakening on Hard. If the rest of the game is this way, I might have to take the step down.
Astral Dog
Member
Poor Felicia, go back to being a maid then.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Keep Sakura and Azura unpaired, neither should be seeing combat and you're cutting off either a refresh or a heal by doing that. Keep Rinkah in Guard Stance and just keep Kaze healthy enough to survive the number of enemies that will attack him. Be sure to take advantage of the free block from Guard Stance when it's up.
Don't turn off hard after ch. 5. It was a problem for me for a while too but everything after is stupid easy to the point that I had to restart my entire game. As far as this chapter, I don't really think there is a particular strategy, just focus on corrin as the only one doing damage, use rinkah/kaze to bait and azura to give corrin as many moves as possible
ShadowSoldier89
Member
shes so bad at that though
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Good look. Unfortunate, was looking forward to blowing faces off with Ike. I'll try him out, but will probably hang back.
Yeah, this doesn't even account for the whole color scheme.
Surely I'm not the only one in this position... How does everyone else decide what enemies your characters can withstand attacks from without relying on guesswork?
Empty Space
Member
Are enemies counts higher on Hard? I assumed they just always had better items and a level or two more. No fucking wonder I can't go take house on chapter 10.
I actually think the map is pretty great now that I got a chance to play it. Its the first map that hasn't just been me moving up slowly baiting a unit out and then killing it.
I've played all the US Fire Emblem except Shadow Dragon on Normal. Anyone who says Conquest hard is comparable to non- Awakening games on Normal really misremembering the difficulty of those other games. You can even grind in all those other games to some extent with the arena, but that's not the case here. I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to willing to play on hard.
Razzorn34
Member
What is Guard Stance? I haven't seen this. Is it something you can select?
Every time you attack or are attacked while paired up you'll see a shield gauge increase. Once this gauge is full the character that doesn't fight will be in guard stance and the next attack will deal no damage to you.
afreaknamedpete
Member
Pair Up works pretty differently in this game.
"Guard Stance" is when 2 units occupy the same space. Guard stance automatically negates follow up attacks by the enemy, gives stat bonuses and, whenever the meter fills, grants one free block.
"Attack Stance" or whatever the name is when a NON paired unit attacks, any adjacent ally will join in for extra damage. Note a paired guard stance unit can support attack as well. Guard Stance completely negates Attack Stance so there's no point in using Attack Stance against paired units.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
It's when you use pair up and one unit is in the back and will block the next attack once their gauge is full. The other kind of pair up is Attack Stance, where a unit attacking will have a follow up attack from an adjacent ally if they are not in Guard Stance.
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
Shuriken with effective damage against armor units, like Effie 
It's basically a ranged armor slayer.
I'm sure this has been posted already but if it hasn't
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/701858966557437952
Fuck you treehouse
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/701858966557437952
Fuck you treehouse
Colour scheme is easy. Imagine Pokemon's Fire (Red) beats Grass (Green) which beats Water (Blue) and that ends back at Fire (Red).
I just look at the enemy's attack value and how far away they may be and if they might try for a dual strike by taking their time and setting up.
Shuriken that deals bonus damage on armoured units. Bonus damage weapons are notified by a symbol at the end that can indicate bonus damage for Beasts, Armoured Units, Flying Units, Dragons and whatnot.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
It's almost like they put that in there as a placeholder, then forgot.
Y'all talking shit about Felicia?
I guess you don't like all the あのあの はいです うわわわ えとえと 良し えいいいいい やああああ でもでも ですね ええ？
Felicia is just trying her best (｡◕ฺˇε ˇ◕ฺ｡）
She wants to be a good maid like her sister Flora.
I guess you don't like all the あのあの はいです うわわわ えとえと 良し えいいいいい やああああ でもでも ですね ええ？
Felicia is just trying her best (｡◕ฺˇε ˇ◕ฺ｡）
She wants to be a good maid like her sister Flora.
That Dude John
Member
So, I ended up going with Nohr. But now I need to learn actual strategy, cuz that first fight was a bloodbath. Only had the older brother, Corrin, and the dude with the book left before defeating 4 units to clear the level. It's good I'm on Casual since I would've lost quite a few people.
Chapter 5 is stupid. I basically had to let Corrin kill everything, first the enemies on the left, then slowly luring up the enemies on the right. Make sure you use Sing to give Corrin two actions a turn, he'll need to take out 2 enemies a turn a couple of times.
I'm on Birthright Hard 14 and haven't hit anything as frustrating as chapter 5 yet. I actually started on normal and restarted on hard because it was too easy.
Razzorn34
Member
So basically, Pairing up is a defensive strategy, and having a unit adjacent but unpaired is for offense? Interesting.
So, if the unit attacking has an adjacent paired unit, does the attacking unit get buffs from both units in the pair?
Thanks for the insight.
Do I have any other options outside of archer? If not that's probably what I'll switch to.
Already Torn
Banned
No pair ups. Corrin kills everything in one shot and can attack two people per turn. The only reason it's a difficult mission is because the game tries to scare you into not attacking the dragon blade people with Corrin, but you should because Corrin one shots them. It's super easy.
Thanks guys! I didn't consider splitting up into two groups because I thought I wouldn't be able to cover my healers and archers, but it worked out! I wanted to stay away from using Ryoma since he's already promoted, but I just had to bite the bullet.
My team is nearing level 20 so almost time to start crying about not having enough Master Seals.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Just got my special edition in the mail.
...for real?