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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT| Mount Breeding Simulator
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Lucina (Marth) shares normal Lucina's stats so all of her builds apply to the masked one, but you have to inherit them yourself outside of Falchion.
There's the 'Nursina' Lucina build which uses Falchion, Renewal, Reciprocal Aid/Ardent Sacrifice and sometimes Breath of Life to turn her into a damaging healer. You can throw fury on her if you want to as well for more damage at the cost of some of her healing potential being eaten.
There's also your average attack Lucina with Fury/Death Blow and Swordbreaker/Vantage
She's not really good at much aside from being a squishy but damaging attacker or a healer that can also attack effectively due to her stats so she doesn't have a wide variety of builds.
Pity rate finally paid off with a Brave Roy. He's +SPD -DEF, which is solid if not a bit squishy. Also solves my debate of who in my roster was getting Fury 3 from the Hinata I got a while back.
I also ended up with my first 5* dupe with an extra Elise. Is it better to +1 my existing Elise, or is there a good place to toss her Live to Serve 3? My first Elise is basically my go-to healer, but I could always build a second healer if someone else can use LtS.
Nah, it's for people like me who missed out on the first Tempest Trials.
Better to re-run it in a mini Trials than in a new one. I guess I can get Tobin eventually as well.
I also ended up with my first 5* dupe with an extra Elise. Is it better to +1 my existing Elise, or is there a good place to toss her Live to Serve 3? My first Elise is basically my go-to healer, but I could always build a second healer if someone else can use LtS.
Nah, it's for people like me who missed out on the first Tempest Trials.
Better to re-run it in a mini Trials than in a new one. I guess I can get Tobin eventually as well.So pretty much just attack or heal builds? Thanks. I'm so low on decent 5* red units. I need there to be a decent red unit on the next banner I pull on.
Special: Luna or Aether.
Assist: something movement related, Reciprocal Aid or Ardent Sacrifice. The healing skills are sometimes useful even without the renewal build, because it takes her safely into Desperation/Vantage range.
A: Usually Fury. Sometimes Darting Blow. I've seen whale-cinas with Distant Counter too.
B: Renewal for medic build, Desperation, or Vantage. Drag Back for budget hit and run.
I already have a neutral Lucina with expensive SIs (currently running renewal build), so I'm giving my Maskcina a budget build with Darting Blow and Drag Back. I find Drag Back is a great skill for squishy offensive units.
Lucina is a very offensive-oriented unit, so you rarely use her to tank anything that's not a swordbreakerless red or a green (and some green mages still kill her). That means she spends a lot of time hanging back playing support until there's something that she can murder with her high attack, which is why the medic build is popular.
Spent like 80 orbs trying to get another Hector and nothing. Even worse there was a span of like 35 orbs where there was no green option at all
The rng for me this month has been so much worse than last month where I was basically getting whatever unit I wanted without wasting too much orbs.
The rng for me this month has been so much worse than last month where I was basically getting whatever unit I wanted without wasting too much orbs.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Just realized the Camilla I pulled with my free pull on the TT banner is +spd/-hp. The urge to promote her and merge and put DC on her is real strong right now.
Buuuut I don't have the feathers and I got to see what the Black Knight is like first.
Buuuut I don't have the feathers and I got to see what the Black Knight is like first.
I'm in that boat right now too. Got S.Tiki and S.Corrin from spending 60-80 orbs sniping their colors, so I know I got lucky there.Spent like 80 orbs trying to get another Hector and nothing. Even worse there was a span of like 35 orbs where there was no green option at all
The rng for me this month has been so much worse than last month where I was basically getting whatever unit I wanted without wasting too much orbs.
This CYL banner? Probably 180 orbs spent doing full pulls, and no brave units. Got Tana and regular Ike as pity rate breakers so it's not all bad, but I would really like some Brave units.
Sushen
Member
After spending so much, what I learned is that I'm happy when I don't have specific unit I want. There are many good units that can be useful in the game. But the moment I target a unit the game turns its back on me. From there on, it's nothing but frustration. Of course, it's easier said than done when you see a unit you like...Spent like 80 orbs trying to get another Hector and nothing. Even worse there was a span of like 35 orbs where there was no green option at all
The rng for me this month has been so much worse than last month where I was basically getting whatever unit I wanted without wasting too much orbs.
toastyToast
Member
I'm 4.75% sniping green orbs and seeing how rarely they show up I'm guessing I'm closing in on 200 orbs without a 5 star.
Pulling on only green two banners in a row is the stuff of nightmares.
Pulling on only green two banners in a row is the stuff of nightmares.
Pejo
Member
Don't you just hate seeing Bartre's smug ugly moustached face? Like each time he's saying, "oh were you expecting a different unit?"
Alkez
Member
It always feels ridiculously hard to pull greens, specifically 5*s. I guess because there's less of them in the pool but it really can be a frustrating experience.
Would be nice if they gave us the option to back out for 1 orb or something (and only charged the 5 if you actually choose to summon) but maybe that's asking for too much.
I know this feeling all too well lmao.
Wyndstryker
Member
Add Arthur to the mix with his smile, pose and comicbook artstyle
Technoweirdo
Member
Merge. Generally, you don't want your healer taking hits whatsoever if they can't kill -- and if they aren't using Wrathful Staff, kill they likely can not. Far too niche as a result. Not so niche? A Wrathful Elise with more Atk power.
Even if you do find yourself in those situations on a regular basis, I've personally found LtS 2 plenty sufficient for my second healer in the few times they've taken a hit. If that's not enough, you could always 5* a Wrys.
Merge. Generally, you don't want your healer taking hits whatsoever if they can't kill -- and if they aren't using Wrathful Staff, kill they likely can not. Far too niche as a result. Not so niche? A Wrathful Elise with more Atk power.
Even if you do find yourself in those situations on a regular basis, I've personally found LtS 2 plenty sufficient for my second healer in the few times they've taken a hit. If that's not enough, you could always 5* a Wrys.
Yeah, that sounds about right. The only real interesting use I could find for LtS was using it to make Azama sort of a front-line healer, which seems nice, but I don't know if it's worth the effort.
No Wrathful Staff yet, but hopefully someday. Poor Genny won't be on my roster for more than a second if I ever manage to pull her.
Man we're getting a shitload of feathers over the next week or so. I'll hold off for a bit as I still have some Hector hunting to do, but I'll definitely be promoting some greens.
Frontrunners are Anna and Brave Axe Cherche, only thing holding me back on Cherche is a lack of Death Blow 3.
I've got a Fury 3 for Anna, I guess. I'd rather give it to Azura but I can't think of an affordable A slot even remotely as useful for Anna.
Could also promote and give DC to a +SPD -DEF Titania, or a +ATK -SPD Sheena. But I want to save that DC for future units. If they keep adding ridiculous nonsense like Amelia and the CYL heroes I'd like to be prepared.
Frontrunners are Anna and Brave Axe Cherche, only thing holding me back on Cherche is a lack of Death Blow 3.
I've got a Fury 3 for Anna, I guess. I'd rather give it to Azura but I can't think of an affordable A slot even remotely as useful for Anna.
Could also promote and give DC to a +SPD -DEF Titania, or a +ATK -SPD Sheena. But I want to save that DC for future units. If they keep adding ridiculous nonsense like Amelia and the CYL heroes I'd like to be prepared.
SenorArdilla
Member
Seeing an initiating Hector double everything is hilarious.
BuckRobotron
Member
This Mini TT is neat, first TT was a mind-numbing grind and didn't have a 40% bonus unit. So I'll taken that QP now thanks. Eliwood as the bonus, he and team can get through themselves but I'm getting sp and supports with other characters before swapping Eliwood and company in at the end. Combos like Spring Chrom spending time with Athena, Summer Robin and Caeda taking flight classes together, etc.
Emperor Hol Horse
Neo Member
For me it's not colorless hell, but green hell. No Amelia, probably no Bike, Cherches never +atk, no Minerva, no Hector, Ninos always either -spd or -atk....
A lot of Barsts, Camillas, Bartres and Fredericks though.
A lot of Barsts, Camillas, Bartres and Fredericks though.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
If they ever add Lancina as a bonus unit for one of these it will be amazing. Her and Amelia are two units that would just be nutty with +4 stats and +10 health.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Wait are the units stronger if they're on the bonus unit list?!
I think so. The last Tempest had it too, which is why Clive wrecked so much house in it despite being a very ordinary unit.
Just checked, and yup. Ninian has +10 hp and a bonus to all stats.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
It's time to get a stat boosting monster team to grind some SP!
Hm, maybe I should just promote Anna now. I'd get a lot of feathers back from the grind and she's up for the bonus next arena rotation.
Guess I'll go Fury/Desperation for her? Vantage is nice and all, but she's pretty fast with Fury and I could get a free Iceberg along with Desperation 3. I'll hold off on Fury until after the TT is over.
Guess I'll go Fury/Desperation for her? Vantage is nice and all, but she's pretty fast with Fury and I could get a free Iceberg along with Desperation 3. I'll hold off on Fury until after the TT is over.
I'm putting budget stuff on my Anna for now until I figure out what I want to do with her. I just threw Defiant Attack on her because I had an Ogma lying around, and I figure it would go well with her default Vantage and built-in Escape Route. I don't really want to put Fury on her.
She'll have plenty of SP from TT grinding to switch builds to anything later, anyway.
She'll have plenty of SP from TT grinding to switch builds to anything later, anyway.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
This is a great time to bring up some lesser units and rack up a lot of feathers via Hero Merits.
Also a great time to build a second horse team since Eliwood is a 40% bonus unit.
I used my freebie on getting the archer Lyn and then summoned one of her afterwards. Is it worth just leveling up two of her or do people recommend I sacrifice her to load her skills into someone else?
Just got very, very lucky and managed to summon Eirika and Ephraim in one go as well.
Just got very, very lucky and managed to summon Eirika and Ephraim in one go as well.
Swift Sparrow is an extremely useful and rare skill, so it could be worth passing that on to someone like a Firesweep weapon user. Make sure you check the stats on the one you pulled from the banner, the free Lyn will be neutral but if the other one is +atk or +spd then level her instead.
I can't recall, is there any way to check their IV if they're not level 1 or level 40?
not for 5 stars. time to level up.
Not for 5* units.
For less than 5*s that are past level 20, you can take them to the promote menu to see what their stats will be at the next star level at level 1.
Wyndstryker
Member
Gotten Brave Bow on my BLyn and things just melt now.
Good choice.
You don't have a BIke?
Sushen
Member
Nope.
So, I need some advice regarding BLyn. I chose her as my free unit but also managed to pull a +ATK -SPD one and I'm not sure if I should merge my neutral one into the +ATK -SPD one. I'm afraid the -SPD is gonna hurt her too much.
I have a 5* Klein ready to be fed to her for Brave Bow+ but haven't done it yet.
I have a 5* Klein ready to be fed to her for Brave Bow+ but haven't done it yet.
Why would you give Bike DC? He is either using SB and somewhat good, or he's not using SB and is very bad.
BIke doesn't need DC to counter blues and greens.
-spd doesn't really matter because you're not supposed to let anyone engage BLyn on your enemy's phase.
SliceSabre
Banned
This is the best I've ever done. Nino did a lot of the heavy lifting and killed 90% of the units though.
I guess I must have had a 3* Nino and turned her into feathers or something because I don't have her any more (but she's unlocked in my catalog). DOH! I saw on the Gamepedia Tier list that she is apparently the best green tome user in the game..woops.
SliceSabre
Banned
Nino is an awesome unit and being a native bladetome user is a huge plus. Mine is honestly a pretty common build except she's neutral IVs.
I was getting bored of Tharja/Ephraim/Hector/Priscilla in TT since the former 3 are my arena core. So now I'm running Reinhardt/BLyn/Hector/Priscilla, and it is glorious. Rein and Lyn just tear through the entire map by themselves with sheer awesomeness. Lyn doesn't even have a pony skill to buff Rein, he's just that good. Hector is an actual god who can lure, counter, and kill almost everything if I have trouble approaching. Priscilla makes sure no one has any problems. Hector in the final map is an issue, but Lyn can chip away at him safely, Hector can tank him, and the AI is dumb enough that I can usually nuke them before they swarm me. Perfect scores are easy, and Hector/Lyn is nearly canon.