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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|Natural Selection Simulator
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Freaking Limit
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I don't find it stressful. I find it interesting. Taking units people don't think have much value and making them strong is part of the fun. There aren't many units like that to work with, since IS has avoided adding more 3* units, and the focus on 5*s with something unique to bring means those units are less likely to be grossly overlooked. It also becomes a bit sad when you realize many units are really just the same stat spread on a different weapon (Adult Tiki and Oboro for example).
Still, I really enjoyed the time I spent looking into how to make a good Firesweep unit, or finding out that Faye is actually pretty damn good so long as you don't pull -Speed (which I of course pulled).
I find it fun. IVs are a thing to consider but not something I worry overly much about, and I am running a +res/-att MRobin of all things with zero-fucks given.
The 'deck-building' is why I play this game, its a lot of fun to come up with stuff (and I find it extra interesting since I am predominantly F2P aside from 15$ from someone else to spend on the game so I don't have many units).
CountAntonius
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I'm a min maxer at heart. I love the team I have right now so I'll keep it but man -Atk just guys me for damage units. I did pull a second Hector. Do I feed him to my perfect IV hector maybe?
Give Distant Counter to another unit, that skill is more useful than a merge
By giving his carrot to someone else 😉
CountAntonius
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Hm....who would that be good on?
renewal + ignis. make him a wall i guess.
I am debating if i should use neutral or +atk/-def
He's not a good unit even with good IVs. So, really, there's not much to do. You could abuse his big defense for an Ignis build with Renewal+Carrot but I'd sooner recommend doing that with some *other* blue Lance users.
I dont know what units you have but Effie is the perfect choice for it
Sheena is better than Hector, so Sheena.
Bamboo 竹
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Vantage does wonders on Hector so I would go with the Vantage set. Also, I would suggedt to try to inherit him a Damage Boost Trigger Skill, like Draconic Aura or Bonfire.
CountAntonius
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One day old reroll Box
Old account I played since launch.
This new account still hasn't even beat all hard missions o a lot more orbs left to use/horde. If they weren't damn near all -atk I'd be in heaven.
Old account I played since launch.
This new account still hasn't even beat all hard missions o a lot more orbs left to use/horde. If they weren't damn near all -atk I'd be in heaven.
Wow, that's some pretty insane luck. 38 chars in total with 6 5*s, if the free units are taken out that's like 1 5* in every 5-pull? Congrats.
I have rerolled an account after the golden week banner went live too; it is also pretty decent.
This new alt account is looking promising; with the most fortunate thing being that the key units mostly have OKish IVs, no -Atk or -Spd here. At this stage I'm sniping blue for Azura and hopefully I can get her to complete a viable core and I can then be free to only pull for characters I care about (like the inevitable Celica and maybe Linde and Julia in the girl mages gauntlet banner) not the "best" units gameplay wise. This might just be enough to encourage me to keep this account.
If that turns out to be case, I don't know what to do with the other 2 accounts I have.
(Top: main account from launch. Bottom: alt account rerolled around the Ursula GHB.)
I mean, I've spent a lot of time with them; they have really good units and can reliably achieve 4800+ when I have a 5* arena bonus char; they have healthy reserves of SI fodders; and most importantly, I have put in quite a lot of work in them and I don't want see them down the drain. Hopefully I can find someone who want to take over at least one of them; playing with 3 accounts is just too much work.
TheRedSnifit
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Literally every match I lose is because of dancer-mage combos. The maps are so cramped that any composition that doesn't revolve around that puts you at a huge disadvantage, and it's getting pretty frustrating.
Fruity Insanity
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>pulled like 27 units
>increased rate
>still no 5*
End me.
>increased rate
>still no 5*
End me.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Loving arena now with Hector and Nowi. Got Eirika and Sharena there for buffs and reciprocal Aid and Renewal on Eirika to get Hector and Nowi back up in health.
Oh, Palla is the lead. Must be a flier emblem team. Palla, Bunny Camila, Cecilia, Reinhardt, all +5 and with the max possible inheritance...still won, but these teams are disturbingly common. Res buffed Hector with a +3 HP seal survived Reinhardt with 4 HP, to give you an idea of how ridiculous these teams are.
I've fought four very similar teams on this run alone. Fortunately, when buffed properly Ike seems to be enough. I had to run that gronnblade Camilla through the calculator to be sure that Ike would live, she hit a +res Ike for 34 damage and I'd even eliminated most of her buffers...
Final boss was...a 4* Hana and 3 unmerged reds that Linde one shotted. What?
Ended with 4808 - happy with that! Seems like Quick Riposte 2 doesn't hurt my score much, if at all. I had 4810 on a run with max inheritance characters, but it's pretty random if I get 686 or 688 score teams.
These feathers should put me in range to promote Tharja. I've got her at 4* 40 with like 1200 SP saved up. Only thing is I still need like 3 Hinatas for the builds I want to do, dammit. I've pulled tons of reds on the last two banners and at this point I'm getting topheavy on red 5* again.
I've fought four very similar teams on this run alone. Fortunately, when buffed properly Ike seems to be enough. I had to run that gronnblade Camilla through the calculator to be sure that Ike would live, she hit a +res Ike for 34 damage and I'd even eliminated most of her buffers...
Final boss was...a 4* Hana and 3 unmerged reds that Linde one shotted. What?
Ended with 4808 - happy with that! Seems like Quick Riposte 2 doesn't hurt my score much, if at all. I had 4810 on a run with max inheritance characters, but it's pretty random if I get 686 or 688 score teams.
These feathers should put me in range to promote Tharja. I've got her at 4* 40 with like 1200 SP saved up. Only thing is I still need like 3 Hinatas for the builds I want to do, dammit. I've pulled tons of reds on the last two banners and at this point I'm getting topheavy on red 5* again.
I literally just ran into the exact same team; 4* Hana and 3 other reds. I was laughing so hard when I saw this opponent that I didn't even bother checking their skills or stats. I didn't even know that Hana is 4* until that "send friend request?" prompt showed up. That team yields 690 points, right? It must be the easiest 690 points I've ever had. Anyway, one-color defense team is a still legit strategy though I will argue red isn't the best choice of color because everyone is now running a strong blue like Reinhardt/Nowi who can just single-handedly delete unlimited number of reds.
Horse Emblem is really prominent in the score range we are in now. Literally every single calvary lead team I met is a Horse Emblem team. And I hate those Horse/Flier Emblems who put a non-meta character as lead. I got this Peri lead team worth 692 points and I was like, hey that's 692 points, maybe it is worth the risk. No matter how buffed this Peri is, she ain't going to do jack shit to my Hector, right? Entered the map and of course the other 3 members turned out to be Reinhadt, Cecilia and Eldigan. And of course it has to be on the twin bridge map.
It was a really close call. Hector with HP+3 survived a hit from Cecilia with 2 HP left, vantaged Reinhardt and Peri (for Peri he actually need some atk buffs) afterwards. Eldigan charged toward my Hector on one bridge while my Reinhardt nuked him from the other. Facing Horse Emblem on the twin bridge is really rough, but it is still slightly better than facing Flier Emblem there...
Ended with 4816 this season. I will probably be out of 5* bonus char next 3 weeks so I will have to settle with the 5k ~ 10k bracket.
Maybe one of them was merged, the Tharja and Ryoma weren't. The last one was Eirika. But yeah, had to be the same person at least. Actually, maybe it was the Hana...? I just blew her up and didn't check. A +10 4* can actually be worth more than a 5*.
Anyhow...
Here's the Azura I pulled on the hero fest banner yesterday. I leveled her normally and she ended up with almost exactly enough SP to fill out all her slots. I don't have the final castle upgrade and I take my time on the lower stratums, but double SP seems to work out great.
Hone Atk, Escutcheon and Wings of Mercy are all non-standard. She'll need another 500 or so for Fury 3, but unless I give up Eldigan then she's stuck with speed+3.
I think I'm gonna try making a flier emblem team. Not that I have Bunnila or anything, but I like fliers in general and think it might be fun. Gonna cost a ton of feathers, though. I'm thinking Palla, Catria, Hinoka, and Cherche.
Probably won't do me any favors in terms of arena score, either. I don't know how flier teams fare in terms of BST.
Probably won't do me any favors in terms of arena score, either. I don't know how flier teams fare in terms of BST.
Fliers actually have roughly the same BST as infantries. They are both at around 157 ~ 158. It is cavalries that generally slightly lower BST at around 154, to compensate their movement advantage. Filers' advantage of ignoring terrain is already "compensated" by their innate weakness to bows, so they didn't take a hit in BST.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I have a +atk/-def Hinoka and two 5* Camilla (not spring) to choose from and the desire to run them on a team is real strong.
I really hope they have a mode that takes advantage of people's ever deepening rosters. There was some inference that may be how the "permanent-death" mode works.
Man-is-Obsolete
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What's his IV? Also sometimes stats can be lopsidedly distributed when leveling.
are you using a team of fliers?
Are you sure they are level 40? The level number on the training stratum refers to the highest level guy in the battle, so the fliers may not be level 40.
E.g 8th stratum says level 40, but actually only the healer or something is level 40.
yeah, this.
might be better to just do a story mission as the unit types are fixed. I believe spring festival paralogue 4-1 is your best bet.
I think he's referring to one of the April quests, which requires killing a few lv40 fliers to get 5 orbs. I think xequalsy said it right, you need to be sure the fliers you are killing are actually at lv40. The lv XX display at the tower stratums are the leader's level; not all enemies are at that level.
For this type of quest, you might want to use the story missions for its fix enemy types and levels. I can't name the mission right off my head because that was a long ago I did it, but googling a bit might help. Cheers.
Edit: yeah, Mupod is right. Paralogue 4-1 has two fliers for 13 stamina; that's as economical as it can get.
Thanks all! Just went and did that one and got 2 right away from it so I'll chip away that way.
Just got four 3* and one 4*. Bummer.
That's why I refuse to spend real money on this game.
I bought the 35 orbs pack and pulled 4 4* and 6 3* but at least I got a perfect Hawkeye and my first Klein so it wasnt a complete Lost but I really want a 5*
Roy, he murders every green unit or Eliwood if Im running Horse Emblem
ShakuganSan
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Roy until I can make a good enough Lilina. I would be using Ryoma instead if he wasn't a -Spd
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