Man-is-Obsolete
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A merged and buffed Spring Camilla scares me the most no matter how good of a red sword I have.
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A merged and buffed Spring Camilla scares me the most no matter how good of a red sword I have.
Not really. Even neutral 4* Fae without any buffs or A skill, and normal Lightning Breath takes 24 damage and deals 19x2 in return - exactly enough to kill Reinhardt. She also already gets Renewal 3 at 4* and comes with Draw Back, so I would say she is a good candidate for a very cheap Reinhardt check.
CrackPebbles
Member
Lost a unit this arena run so I only managed to get 4678. I'm really enjoying using 4* Zephiel with Brave sword deathblow wary fighter and ignis, though. If we weren't so strapped for feathers in this game i'd want to promote him.
But for general use, would taking my 5* Fae and giving her regular Lightning Breath be a step back (besides Reinhardt)? Her current main seems like it has some nice buffs, but haven't taken her for a spin yet so I don't know how that plays out. I think I have a spare 4* Tiki but fully leveled, I could probably spare 2,000 feathers to promote my 3* Tiki. How does she do against Olwen? That other blue horse mage that tends to wreck teams.
I think having a distant counter is a lot more important for a tank than what basically amounts to a conditional Fortify Def/Res.
You only need a 3* Tiki to pass on Lightning Breath.
+Atk Blarblade Olwen with Death Blow 3, buffed by Hone Cavalry and a +Atk Seal does kill Fae, but in theory you could prevent this with a simple combination of the +3 HP Seal and even Fury 1.
Heretic Kazuma
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Honestly, I'd love if IS changes it up. Maybe change the score multiplier to +25% per bonus hero. They usually include a good mix of free units as bonuses so F2Pers aren't left out too much, and this would add a good amount of variety and experimentation into the meta with unlikely combinations.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I was a Hector away from promoting him. Distant counter on him combined with fortify armor and Goad Armor buffs sounded amazing.
Sushen
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I think this summarize the problem of the current arena. I started to play this game liking the possibility of playing all your favorite characters.
As it turns out, the arena became OHKO or bust matches, very single dimensional. This forces a handful of proven formulas if you don't want to suck. Not sure, if this is what IS wants.
So Azura with Distant Counter is pretty good. I ran into one that was escorting a Hector, and was surprised to see that Robin couldn't even hurt her. She'd double him in return and kill because she has such high speed and res.
It was a pretty interesting team. It was Azura + Hector + Ryoma + Ike, and both Ryoma and Ike had Swordbreaker. A full distant counter team.
It was a pretty interesting team. It was Azura + Hector + Ryoma + Ike, and both Ryoma and Ike had Swordbreaker. A full distant counter team.
I think skill inheritance was an attempt to avoid that, but i don't think it was completely successful. I mean, at least now units like Setsuna - who i imagine were underappreciated before - can become S tier (although the tier list is a bit bullshit imho), but it's still true that in the arena you get to face mostly the same units, if not entire teams.
Anyway farming the tower is always useful so you can still use any character you want there without worrying too much, and they're constantly adding new story/side chapters.
CuthbertAllgoodz
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Thinking about doing that. I have way too many Hectors, could sacrifice 3 for DC. Felt like giving one to Azura for fun and messing around with Arena people for my Defense team, she's strong with ATK boon. However, her bane being SPD makes me reconsider.
I'm actually considering a similar team, with Takumi in place of Azura. Give Ryoma and Ike Reposition/Swap to help Hector out, let Hector have Wings of Mercy for SURPRISE HECTOR and watch the body count go up.
Only problem is I have no Vantage left for Takumi. Ran outta Lonqus.
SolarKnight
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Honestly unless there ended up being some balancing miracle I don't think this would've ever not been the case.
I think that would be a lot less threatening because Azura has a lot more synergy with Hector than Takumi does.
The main danger of that team was because Azura + the red swords all did a great job of escorting the Hector. Hector constantly got danced, so he kept up with the rest of the team.
I had red swords who could kill Hector, but not without losing them the next turn to any of the red swords or to Azura. I also couldn't fight the Azura with any blue without getting hit by Hector the next turn. I couldn't bait Hector either, because I wasn't sure if my units could take getting hit twice by Hector, or the ones that could were in danger of just getting killed by Azura stepping in front of Hector instead.
CountAntonius
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Finally pulled a cherch to feed to hector for Pivot. Him and Ryoma with reposition just move all over the damn place.
I need you guys to help me out on what to focus and what to build (Despite the EV's or whatever, I don't care so much about that yet)
5 Stars units:
Elise level 40
Lyn Level 40
Ryoma level 40
Azura level 10
Azura level 1
Azura level 1
Ike level 31
Takumi level 31
Takumi level 1
Hector level 23
Karel level 1
Leo level 1
Jakob level 1
Noteworthy (maybe I dont know?):
Nino
Eirika
Chrom
Cain
Robin (Male and Female)
Corrin
Reinhardt
Camilla level 40
Fae
Edit: also should I keep pulling on the hero fest for my last 25 orbs as a F2P?
5 Stars units:
Elise level 40
Lyn Level 40
Ryoma level 40
Azura level 10
Azura level 1
Azura level 1
Ike level 31
Takumi level 31
Takumi level 1
Hector level 23
Karel level 1
Leo level 1
Jakob level 1
Noteworthy (maybe I dont know?):
Nino
Eirika
Chrom
Cain
Robin (Male and Female)
Corrin
Reinhardt
Camilla level 40
Fae
Edit: also should I keep pulling on the hero fest for my last 25 orbs as a F2P?
Promote Reinhardt if he is +Atk and Nino if she is not -Spd. Eirika is another fantastic candidate, her nature almost doesn't matter.
Azura, Hector and Ryoma are the obvious other standouts. If they have good natures you might not need to continue pulling on the Hero Fest banner.
Nino, Eirika and Azura make a powerful trio together that you should be able to get tons of mileage out of. Hector, Takumi and Ryoma are good to go without any skill inheritance too.
Since you have all the focus characters, there's not much reason left for you to pull on the Hero Fest Banner.
Plenty of good units there. Without knowing IV's, I'd focus on leveling one of those Azuras and Hector to start. With Ryoma at 40 already, that gives you a solid base of each color to work with. I think you'll really want to look into the IV's on some of those units though. If Reinhardt is +attack (or at least -attack), then he's a winner and worthy of promotion to 5*. Same for Nino if she's +atk or spd. A speed bane would be bad for her though. Eirika partners great with her too at 5*, and her boon/bane isn't as important.
As far as the Hero banner goes, I'd stop pulling now. You have at least one of each, and we'll have a nice mage banner coming soon with the voting gauntlet.
Edit: Hah, everything I typed was already covered
She relies on being fast enough to double attack units to get most of her damage out. Yeah, a fully buffed Nino can do 55 damage in one hit, but the main strategy with her is putting Desperation 3 on her and having her do two 55 damage hits in a round, killing nearly everything in the game. You can use that strategy if your Nino is fast, which she wouldn't be with a SPD bane.
Well that's why I want to throw some movement skills in to help Hector keep up. Smite, for example, can shoot Hector across the map if necessary. It's probably easier with a dancer sure, but I'd like to see what I can do without one. I can always fall back on Azura if need be.
Interesting, thanks. Mine as well, you don't lose your previous weapon so I could just switch back if I don't like it.
Having + SPD for her is the optimal Nino.
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edit: aw you already fixed it
-spd is horrible for everybody that doesn't already have horribly bad speed and/or wary fighter.
I'm interested in your experiences since we only have one player in our server who uses her competitively.
Plenty of good units there. Without knowing IV's, I'd focus on leveling one of those Azuras and Hector to start. With Ryoma at 40 already, that gives you a solid base of each color to work with. I think you'll really want to look into the IV's on some of those units though. If Reinhardt is +attack (or at least -attack), then he's a winner and worthy of promotion to 5*. Same for Nino if she's +atk or spd. A speed bane would be bad for her though. Eirika partners great with her too at 5*, and her boon/bane isn't as important.
As far as the Hero banner goes, I'd stop pulling now. You have at least one of each, and we'll have a nice mage banner coming soon with the voting gauntlet.
Edit: Hah, everything I typed was already covered
My rein is -hp and +res..rest is neutral.
Nino is -atk and +spd rest is neutral.
You said speed important but atk is bad.
None of these will work right? lol
Eh, you're Rein should be fine.
Nino..... speed is the most important thing on her, so if you set her up right and have enough buffs on her, you might be able to make her work.
ShakuganSan
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Her light breath requires a bit of setting up and position to get the buffs. I don't really bother with it since my Fae rarely initiates along with allies next to her. I'd gladly use lightning breath for ranged counter than light breath. But who knows, you might be able to get it to work better
When I asked that, I was asking why the hell +SPD would be bad, then I noticed you guys were using the term bane, which is -.
+Spd Nino is great, and she can overcome -atk due to her Gronnblade weapon bonus. Every stat buff she has gets added to her attack during encounters. That's why it's best to pair Eirika with her, as she can triple buff Nino.
5* weapon = +3 attack (counts as +6 for Nino due to Gronnblade's effect)
Hone Speed = +4 Speed
Rally Res or Def = +4
That's a +14 attack boost on a +Spd Nino, who will double almost all of the units in the game. You can even use a 2nd unit to cover the 4th stat buff and make it a +18. This Nino will kill anything that's not a direct hard counter to her.
Pejo
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Well, done with my Hector. He's not the best IV, and not really original, but he's complete as far as I'm concerned. Ryoma having Reposition and Hector with Pivot can get him across the battle super quickly, I'm really happy with that setup. Ignis takes a little longer to get charged, but it's like a nuke when it goes off. It's really great when you're using Hector to lure and there's a red unit in the mix that you can't separate.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
The only bad IV Reinhardt has is -atk. He's one of the safest units in the game when it comes to IV rolls.
Guess which one I got!
+spd -atkGuess which one I got!
Nightcrown
Member
Is a +Atk -Res Azura decent? If so what skill set should I give her?
Yes
HoodWinked
Member
the hero fest banner has been miserable.
only gotten one 5* and it was ogma.
only gotten one 5* and it was ogma.
Dang it. What else is good for Hector besides Vantage?
HoodWinked
Member
wings of mercy is the other option. threaten def or atk since you will use him to bait.
CrackPebbles
Member
At least that's a brave sword+ you can give to a better unit!
But yeah I feel you. I haven't gotten a single 5* from the hero banner yet after spending almost 100 orbs on it.
toastyToast
Member
Neutral isn't bad at all. His defenses are still in tact and he still hits pretty freaking hard. I got a +Spd/-Def Hector which cuts back on his tanking ability so I have him threaten attack.
Nightcrown
Member
Anyone know a good skill set for the Azura I mentioned?
CountAntonius
Member
My team so far
Hector +ATK -SPD
Pivot
Bonfire
Distant Counter
Vantage
Ryoma +ATK -HP
Reposition
Moonbow
Vantage
Fury(WIP)
Hone SPD
Azura +SPD -HP
Sing
Moonbow(WIP)
Fury(WIP)
Wings Of mercy(WIP)
Hone ATK
Linde -DEF - RES
Ardent Sacrfice
Moonbow(WIP)
Fury(WIP)
Despertion
Threaten Res?(not sure)
WIP are skills I'm working on or need fodder for. Not sure what to put as a C skill for Hector or Linde. Maybe threaten of some sort? I dunno.
Hector +ATK -SPD
Pivot
Bonfire
Distant Counter
Vantage
Ryoma +ATK -HP
Reposition
Moonbow
Vantage
Fury(WIP)
Hone SPD
Azura +SPD -HP
Sing
Moonbow(WIP)
Fury(WIP)
Wings Of mercy(WIP)
Hone ATK
Linde -DEF - RES
Ardent Sacrfice
Moonbow(WIP)
Fury(WIP)
Despertion
Threaten Res?(not sure)
WIP are skills I'm working on or need fodder for. Not sure what to put as a C skill for Hector or Linde. Maybe threaten of some sort? I dunno.
pelicansurf
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So I did 3 consecutive solo pulls, from 2 different banners and got 5 star Cordelia, 5 star Roy, 5 star Cordelia.
Feels weird.
Feels weird.
Sparkedglory
Member
So I have a question about inheritence. I want to give my azura wings of mercy. And I'm going to use my Frederick to do so. It says I can select up to 3 skills. And my Frederick only has wings of mercy 1 and 2 since he's a 4 star.
My question is this. Do I need to level up Frederick to a 5 star and get wings of mercy 3 to add to my azura? Or will I be able to add wings of mercy 2 to azura and level it up to 3 at a later time?
My question is this. Do I need to level up Frederick to a 5 star and get wings of mercy 3 to add to my azura? Or will I be able to add wings of mercy 2 to azura and level it up to 3 at a later time?
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