Unfortunately, she is one of the worst and most useless characters in the game. Not even much worth inheriting.
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Unfortunately, she is one of the worst and most useless characters in the game. Not even much worth inheriting.
Depends on her IV. imo she is very underrated. The best unit for Raurraven + TA3 + Swordbreaker combo.
SenorArdilla
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You could put Rauorraven and TA on her. Tank greens and colorless all day.
Dude, this is just misleading..
I am using 3* Sophia in Arena as a bonus unit on my alt account. I have RaurRaven, TA2 on her. She baits Takumi and green mages all day and kill in two turns. At 5* and with TA3 she is gonna one shot Takumi and Nino. Equip her with swordbreaker she now counters more than half of the cast. She is far from useless, just need some dedication.
Interesting, I also got a 5* Sophia today and feel less bad about it now. Don't have an Henry but I will keep that in mind.
Wow this grand battle was easy, first try. Threw Robin in range of ninja's and just kept backing up to stay out of range of the axe but within range of the ninjas and attack range of Navarre. Used Nino to pull back Robin once they were down and cleaned up with Jaffar. Not even sure I used Eirika besides buffs.
This arena stinks, it is either Gunter or Sophia for me and Gunter is Level 1 and Sophia Level 40. Guess it is 4* Sophia and I'll just keep her out of the way.
TBH, wish I hadn't used 20k feathers on 5* Kagero since I had Jaffar already and prefer him. Not sure what to use my current 20k on. Might just wait since I don't have some of the arena meta players at all.
This arena stinks, it is either Gunter or Sophia for me and Gunter is Level 1 and Sophia Level 40. Guess it is 4* Sophia and I'll just keep her out of the way.
TBH, wish I hadn't used 20k feathers on 5* Kagero since I had Jaffar already and prefer him. Not sure what to use my current 20k on. Might just wait since I don't have some of the arena meta players at all.
Technoweirdo
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At 19 Spd, she's the slowest unit in the game. Effie has 22 Spd, for the record, but she gets Wary Fighter. Also, she's not mounted, so no Pony Emblem for her.
Speaking of though, interestingly, top-tier-for-all-of-one-day Leo has all-around worse stats than her barring Spd, but 22's not really worth much.
Sophia
40 HP | 33 Atk | 19 Spd | 28 Def | 29 Res
Leo
39 HP | 29 Atk | 22 Spd | 25 Def | 30 Res
I got a 5* Palla +def/-atk. Should I give her +3 Atk in slot A to compensate or give her +5hp to make her even more tanky? She's just going to be more or less there to fight green units on my flier emblem team.
Other members are minerva (ward fliers), michalis (goad fliers) and hinoka (hone fliers)
Other members are minerva (ward fliers), michalis (goad fliers) and hinoka (hone fliers)
CuthbertAllgoodz
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That happens to me all the time and it could lead me to quit out of annoyance more than the money I waste so far getting crap characters with no good skills to feed to others. Sorry for the negativity, bad FE day both with the gacha and in the towers. Looks like the game decide to really piss me off today!
... I kinda want to promote FCorrin to 5* -> Dark Breath+ to Tiki-loli ... The other option, is feed Hinata/Fury 3 to Eirika instead, the latter doesn't require a promotion as I have a 4* Hinata.
Or... FEED BOTH TO TIKI! Feed the dragon the bodies of our allies!
Ooooooof. Decisions, decisions.
Or... FEED BOTH TO TIKI! Feed the dragon the bodies of our allies!
Ooooooof. Decisions, decisions.
Sophia has
* Garbage Speed
* 4 less attack than Sanaki or Lilina, and only 1 more than Tharja
* No useful native skills or weapons
You are talking about sacrificing a 5* Henry to replace her actual weapon. Giving her Triangle Adept just to make her what, a poor man's Sanaki?
With enough time and resources you can make virtually any character in this game viable. But Sophia is objectively an awful awful base to build upon. I'm not being misleading at all.
Technoweirdo
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Grinding, grinding, and more grinding.
A trick to it is to cycle what you'll face at the higher floors by intentionally burning stamina at the lower floors until you get 3/4 favorable matchups so you don't have to worry about losing xp by dying. Triangle Adept users in particular can get away with fighting units much higher-levelled than them, though xp gains are capped at...200 a kill, I think, not factoring castle (2x when fully upgraded) and event bonuses (1.5x).
Glad I change your mind
At 19 Spd, she's the slowest unit in the game. Effie has 22 Spd, for the record, but she gets Wary Fighter. Also, she's not mounted, so no Pony Emblem for her.
Speaking of though, interestingly, top-tier-for-all-of-one-day Leo has all-around worse stats than her barring Spd, but 22's not really worth much.
Sophia
40 HP | 33 Atk | 19 Spd | 28 Def | 29 Res
Leo
39 HP | 29 Atk | 22 Spd | 25 Def | 30 Res
Being slow is not all bad though. If she is taking little to no damage to begin with, being slow only means faster special charge.
Leo has lower attack, so with the same raurraven/ta3 build he still need two shots to kill someone. but he comes with Quick Riposte 3, and thanks to having lower firepower and being slow, he trades 4 blows with the opponent when baiting, which would fully charge up Glacies. Besides, he is on a horse.
Mathematics
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Vengeance is a good point. I'm running into more mages in arena. Will have to test how much trading I do. Desperation​ will be a good complementary skill as well.
Was not the best idea speed leveling to 40
This is wrong. I just ran the math for the lulz.
Hilariously, a 5* Sophia with Raurraven+ and Triangle Adept 3 cannot one shot a neutral vanilla UNBUFFED Nino.
You don't have a case here.
Hey, you are talking like only atk and spd matters in this game. being the slowest unit in this game is actually not a bad thing, it's certainly better than having 29 spd and still getting doubled everywhere.
she could work with regular Raurraven, just need a Hone Atk to do her job. I didn't say it's cheap to make her work. but with those skills replaced she is, imo, the best Raven Tome user in the game.
Sanaki(or Lilina) and Sophia serve very different purpose. Sanaki is a glass cannon while Sophia is a tank. Sanaki is not gonna survive a round against a sword unit or Takumi, she even has problem against Hector if the Hector has +Res. Sophia on the other hand is a much safer bait.
5* Sophia with Raurraven+ has 44 atk.
44 * 1.4 = 61
A neutral Nino has a combined Hp and res of 59? am I missing something?
Ugh, dammit game. I'm not even going to try to make her usable as that too much SP and sounds even worse than Leo who I think is pretty terrible all around.
So guys, can you give me advice on what skills to pass along 4* Tharja? Unfortunately she has very subpar IV
(-Atk/+Hp) but I'm willing to make her work as she was my Awakening Waifu and I just got her now finally. I even have Eirika so that my buff bot there.
Nino has exactly 1 HP left.
She's not someone to build a team around but she's not awful if you don't have other red tome users and/or is your only arena option this week.
Perfect run first try with her for 4398 and haven't added any skills. Turns out a Eirika/Nino/Robin/Sophia team has just about everything covered. And she boosts Nino if that's your thing.
Def be disappointed if I got her as a 5* but leveling her up as a 4* isn't a bad idea if you are lacking in that area for specific uses. Not an everyday team member though.
(Man that was an easy week, first try GHB and arena). Back to leveling my flier team.
Perfect run first try with her for 4398 and haven't added any skills. Turns out a Eirika/Nino/Robin/Sophia team has just about everything covered. And she boosts Nino if that's your thing.
Def be disappointed if I got her as a 5* but leveling her up as a 4* isn't a bad idea if you are lacking in that area for specific uses. Not an everyday team member though.
(Man that was an easy week, first try GHB and arena). Back to leveling my flier team.
this is assuming Nino still has Resistence + 3 equipped. Come on, she is not gonna run that skill in arena. and if she does(or I guess fury 3 is a more popular option), Sophia only need a buff to get over that threshold..
I still stand by my point that Sophia is very underrated..
edit: Fucked up somewhere.
her attack in ur picture seems too low.. without +3 res, nino does die
That's strange, don't know how that happened.
Fury would save Nino and is the standard build.
I mean when it comes to bonus characters yeah run with whatever jank; I think I used a Level 30 Narcian once. But it remains bad advice to recommend that anyone invest major resources into Sophia as part of a core team. IMO.
Glad we agree on that.. Fury 3 Nino barely scratches Sophia while feeding her 3 special charge though.
I don't want to continue arguing for Sophia since I'm not even a fan of her design or character.. I just don't like the idea of throwing units away as trash without thinking about it, when other people spent orbs pulling a 5* version of her and was asking for suggestions.
dreamlongdead
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Damn right he is. I've had so much trouble with him on team.
Things were so tough, that I just stopped resetting the streak after a unit dies. I think I had either three or four units during my current run, so I'm just at 4316 right now. A perfect run is slightly above or below 4500 for my team's strength. I'm taking a wait and see approach.
If this keeps me between 10000 and 30000 Rank, I won't try hard to improve it. Don't know if 4316 goes far these days, though.
It's a dumb argument anyway. If you are attacking a Nino with a mage you are doing it wrong.
Lol, just surrender.
CuthbertAllgoodz
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Wish I kept my second 5* Camilla to level 1 for the event for no random unwinnable matchup if it works like last time. Trying to think if I go with underdogs to place high for first 2 rounds or simply go with most likely winner for victory feathers...
If we really want to get serious about numbers, then to be fair, no one will run a Nino in the Arena with either -Atk or -Spd. With those two gone, you have to settle your bane in one of HP, Def, or Res. So roughly two in the three Ninos you meet will have either -HP or -Res, lowering her magic one-shot threshold, not to mention that -Res is generally considered as the "best" bane for Nino. To champloo's point, Sophia with TA3 does provide a generally robust Nino check in most cases.
Whether you want to invest your resources into Sophia is of course up to individuals though. Many will argue there are better alternatives.
Whether you want to invest your resources into Sophia is of course up to individuals though. Many will argue there are better alternatives.
There are different approaches though. I prefer baiting ranged unit with my own ranged unit, and beat them on counterattack.
I tried to fight just to test out my team. I scraped by with only Effie surviving. That Tharja has 46 spd unboosted.. I should have surrendered as soon as I see Tharja as the lead lol
I feel you bro, I feel you. Running multiple armored and young dragons is just like asking to be matched with +10 mages and dancers these days. Better start cherry-picking your opponents and skip whenever you see "bad signs".
Hopefully the April update will fix this. Hopefully.
Its all personal opinion, but I think swords are more difficult to run with in the Arena now since Swordbreaker is getting popular. Other red options includes Tiki and some mages. While green mages are on the rise, I like to run someone that can safely bait them while make some counterattack in return. It's just more convenient while my green check also counters colorless units with a raven tome. While at it I would throw Swordbreaker on her to have even more coverage. To each of their own I guess
You have done something good, bro. Someone with +10 Linde and Azura is clearly a hacker. #NeverSurrenderToAHacker
Haha well done. I wish RNG was more friendly to me, I can't crack 640 unless I retool my team, which I'm working on, but bonus characters make it hard. Just ran with a 4* Michalis and improved to 4428 on no deaths.
Find myself already missing Jaffar, he was so handy ): Especially in dealing with mages, baiting Julia was fantastic. I guess I don't go after Nino with a mage considering I've got Nino and Robin, not exactly hard counters to bait with, especially considering a buffed up Nino can one shot your Nino. Usually use the map and get Eirika in range against Nino.
We are all gonna be there, sooner or later.
I'd like to assume that he is the biggest whale out there and we are free of hackers lol.
Should have send a friend request, which is like saying, hey I beat you uber team with Selena, try harder next time.
Blergmeister
Member
Where can I find a list of this week's bonus characters? I thought the girl in the purple robe and hair was Julia but apparently not as I'm clearly not getting the double points.
https://feheroes.wiki/Nino
I'm assuming that's with everything equipped so -9 ATK from Gronnblade, -2 from RES+2 leaves you with 31/27/34/16/27 (and you'll get +1 ATK, +1 DEF upon hitting 40)? So -ATK/+RES.
I used Narcian at Level 20 back when he was a bonus unit. Then i ran into a match where I needed him to tank a much higher level Abel. I thought he would die but save my other units in the process. He ended up living thanks to Emerald Axe + Lancebreaker.
At that point i realized Narcian is an amazing blue-killer and promptly leveled him to 40. He was absolutely great for that Arena and for the more recent Flier Emblem quest. I was considering promoting him until I recently pulled a +ATK/-SPD 4* Cherche.
I usually avoid savage blow because of enemies with Vantage.
Although there's different​ situations for it anyway.
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