malikhaing_bayag
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How do you get the arena feathers? Went to arena and I did not get any and it said that the arena was closed.
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They should be up when the arena refreshes at 11pm PT
Of course.
Good choice, you'll like using her in Arena.
The hoarding continues.
OrangeAtlas
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Is there any reason to hang onto lower star or duplicate heroes? Or is merging/trading for feathers the better option?
Generally you mind as well go get rid of them for feathers, but if they have a good +/- parameter for their stats, at 3 or 4 stars then you might want to keep them so you can use your feathers to upgrade them later.
Aside from this.
Has there been any database with more characters updated showing their 5* level 40 stats?
I need to know 5* level 40 stats for Niles. Because his stats have a balance between attack, speed and resistance. It makes him rather weak as a 4* for Arena.
He is good as a mage killer but, his big weakness is other archers and dagger users.
I'd also want to know stats for 5* level 40 Setsuna, she can make up for Niles weakness by being good against bow and dagger users. I'm assuming she wouldn't be as good against mages like Niles.
Has there been any database with more characters updated showing their 5* level 40 stats?
I need to know 5* level 40 stats for Niles. Because his stats have a balance between attack, speed and resistance. It makes him rather weak as a 4* for Arena.
He is good as a mage killer but, his big weakness is other archers and dagger users.
I'd also want to know stats for 5* level 40 Setsuna, she can make up for Niles weakness by being good against bow and dagger users. I'm assuming she wouldn't be as good against mages like Niles.
One feature I would love to have is being able to pick a strategy for my defense team.. I mean there is already difference AI on story chapters, some units goes all out, the others wait till the enemy steps into the danger zone. could make armored units less useless in defense
Setsuna is 42/39/40/19/23 163 Total.
Zero we don't know the total but we know his base stats at Lv1
18/15/8/4/8
So going by estimates it might be
37/~40/36/19/25 157 total?
We don't know exact numbers but comparing his base stats to other archers and characters in his element that might be it? Off by a few points.
According to this, my Lyn is not only -3 ATK nature but also -1 ATK overall, she sits at 40 ATK at level 40. +4 HP to offset. THAT IS NOT A GOOD TRADE, GAME.
Niles' res is probably higher than that. my lv20 4* Niles already has 20 res. He is a decent unit to run alongside Hector
Thanks for the Setsuna numbers.
For reference, my 4* Niles at level 35 has 32HP, 27 Atk, 26 Spd, 16 Def, 28 Res.
He isn't like typical archers, he has higher resistance due to his special 'iceberg'.
Taking him to 5* would increase his attack by 4 from switching to killer bow+
Thanks!
This shows what I was explaining. His stats are balanced between attack, speed, and resistance.
His rating is low, 156.
Technically, Setsuna has a low rating as well if you ignore her 5+ HP skill.
I have to make some comparisons here. (Not known if all stats are neutral.)
* Name: HP/Atk/Spd/Def/Res
5* Takumi: 40/46/33/24/18
5* Jeorge: 37/46/32/25/22
5* Setsuna: 42/39/40/19/23
5* Niles: 37/34/34/20/31
The reason why Niles has low attack is because of 'iceberg' he adds 50% of his Res as damage. Assuming it rounds up, 31 Res + 6 Res from warding blow would give him an extra 19 damage.
That means he could deal 53 damage in one hit ignoring defense. But he can do this more often than Jeorge's special which gives has a 5 cooldown. Although Jeorge's special is good that he can deal an AoE attack with 69 damage ignoring Def/Res before starting combat.
Virion would probably have higher attack than Niles which would make his specials better but they still have a longer cooldown whether it is Night Sky or Astra.
Setsuna actually becomes the weakest in Attack but her speed makes up for it to get two attacks in and that she has an advantage against bow and dagger users. Unfortunately, her Def seems to be weak.
Oh, Takumi would also have a strong special due to Vengeance.
I have to make some comparisons here. (Not known if all stats are neutral.)
* Name: HP/Atk/Spd/Def/Res
5* Takumi: 40/46/33/24/18
5* Jeorge: 37/46/32/25/22
5* Setsuna: 42/39/40/19/23
5* Niles: 37/34/34/20/31
The reason why Niles has low attack is because of 'iceberg' he adds 50% of his Res as damage. Assuming it rounds up, 31 Res + 6 Res from warding blow would give him an extra 19 damage.
That means he could deal 53 damage in one hit ignoring defense. But he can do this more often than Jeorge's special which gives has a 5 cooldown. Although Jeorge's special is good that he can deal an AoE attack with 69 damage ignoring Def/Res before starting combat.
Virion would probably have higher attack than Niles which would make his specials better but they still have a longer cooldown whether it is Night Sky or Astra.
Setsuna actually becomes the weakest in Attack but her speed makes up for it to get two attacks in and that she has an advantage against bow and dagger users. Unfortunately, her Def seems to be weak.
Oh, Takumi would also have a strong special due to Vengeance.
g.r.e.
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Are 4* to 5* ascended units inherently weaker than their rolled versions?
Using this calculator, if I were to ascend any of my 4* units, they'd have something like 2-3 stat points less..
Using this calculator, if I were to ascend any of my 4* units, they'd have something like 2-3 stat points less..
Weapons and skilled buffs.
ZSaberLink
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It takes into account skills. So if they get a better weapon at 5*, you need to take that into account for attack, etc.
g.r.e.
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Oh, it makes sense, thank you!
Thanks. I did need to know his stats since I had a level 32 4* version.
His speed is okay, he would only get to hit four times with his brave bow against something slow like Draug but it probably wouldn't do any damage.
His attack is a bit low but that's to be expected for brave weapon wielders.
If he fought against Takumi, this is what would happen.
If Takumi hasn't inflicted Threaten Spd, Gordin inflicts 80 damage from two attacks first. Takumi takes 32 damage from it after accounting for Def. Takumi would still have 8HP. He attacks back once with 46 damage. Gordin takes 17 damage leaving him with 26 health.
If Takumi attacks again on his turn, he would die because Vantage kicks in for Gordin allowing him to get one attack in before the opponent.
That's neat but, Gordin still has a huge weakness against fast mages. He would easily get killed by Linde, Nino.
Vanguard771
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I'm hoping Shinon comes in and wipes the floor with the other archers in FEH like he did in PoR and RD.
Close Counter duh.
Bamboo 竹
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Not better than Rofl tho.
That's what I assumed but I wanted to make sure there wasn't like some sort of bug or anything with it.
I guess I may consider getting a 5* Niles. Unless there's a better mage killer, Niles can also be effective against fliers because of using a bow.
I do have a level 40+2 Cordelia which has good resistance and can deal good damage against mages because of Brave Lance however, her weakness is green mages especially 5* Merric.
This is where Niles can make up for that weakness and I could then switch out Cordelia for my 5* level 40+1 Catria.
If there are none of his allies in range to attack you and survive and nothing else for him to attack, I'd say it would be likely.
I thought it would've been 26 speed going off the picture.
You're right though, it would make him very slow against Takumi.
I do have a level 40+2 Cordelia which has good resistance and can deal good damage against mages because of Brave Lance however, her weakness is green mages especially 5* Merric.
This is where Niles can make up for that weakness and I could then switch out Cordelia for my 5* level 40+1 Catria.
If there are none of his allies in range to attack you and survive and nothing else for him to attack, I'd say it would be likely.
I thought it would've been 26 speed going off the picture.
You're right though, it would make him very slow against Takumi.
theprodigy
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Bamboo 竹;230273385 said:
what, Rofl is bad in both games unlike Shinon
(and you even spelled his name in joke form already)
GreatestHits
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Woot! I rolled a Marth in the orb collector.. is he rare at all? (4-star). He definitely steamrolls everything in the game so far
**reads thread**
Ok, I'm a noob
**reads thread**
Ok, I'm a noob
Oof, just barely beat 8-5 Lunatic. Blew up the axe soldier with Tiki, then ganged up on Robin while Tiki and Sully were blown up. Camilla died, but Lucina finished off Robin and got the AI into a bad position where Gaius couldn't hit Lucina. Lucina managed to Luna enemy Lucina to death, kill the trapped Gaius, and clean house with the healer. Bad enemy positioning seems to be how I win the really hard battles.
Saw you pulled a Takumi and decided to try my luck as well.....And guessed what? Takumi...
Awesome! Yeah I kind of gave up trying to get him but I got 20 orbs from quests and happened to pull three whites for the first time. Got him on the third white.
Thanks! Do you know how many are there?
Man-is-Obsolete
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In my quest for Takumi I got Jeorge which is fine. Now to decide on the make up of my team.
Have a 5* Camila and Roy, 4* Robin, Jakob, Jeorge, M Corrin and a 3* Olivia.
Am I crazy to consider dropping Roy at some point for a 4* Olivia, 4* Jeorge, 5* M Robin, 5* Camila? Being able to double up attacks with those three characters seems insane.
Have a 5* Camila and Roy, 4* Robin, Jakob, Jeorge, M Corrin and a 3* Olivia.
Am I crazy to consider dropping Roy at some point for a 4* Olivia, 4* Jeorge, 5* M Robin, 5* Camila? Being able to double up attacks with those three characters seems insane.
There are three in 9-2 but 9-2 is one of if not the hardest map.
If you can't swing it you can just run any training tower level above 35 and you'll probably average one per map or so.
Not the best because you want to be doubling your opponents, not get doubled and lose more HP.
She's supposed to fulfill a bulky role to take out enemy reds, and occasionally take a hit from a blue.
Her Luna skill more than makes up for her lower attack. At 31 base speed, threats like Anna, Nino, Rinda, Aqua, Felicia, +Speed Sharon, +Speed Kamui will all be able to double on you and kill you.
Red units like Lyn, Lucina, Sheeda, +Speed Ryoma, +Speed Marth, will be able to do more damage to you because you're doubled.
Katua in particular suffers from trying to figure out which stat to + and which stat to -.
She's one of the units you might prefer neutral because it maintains her bulk, or a +Resistance/-HP one because it lets you take a little bit more punishment and the overall HP lost isn't too bad since you were going to get OHKO by a Takumi anyway.
No, but since playable green arent superfast you will be fine. Mine is -4HP +3DEF losing 1 stat sucks.
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