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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|The Future of Fire Emblem
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What the shit. 3*, level 40 Narcian has better stats than 4* Camilla. Much more useful too seeing as his axe actually damages blue units.
Fake edit: Oh what the fuck, equipping a brave axe lowers the unit's rating by a LOT due to the -spd and lower damage. That's silly. Does it actually affect your arena score...?
Fake edit: Oh what the fuck, equipping a brave axe lowers the unit's rating by a LOT due to the -spd and lower damage. That's silly. Does it actually affect your arena score...?
It's -5spd, and yes.
SuperDowns
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Engrish?
No they're just heroes that are supposed to be good for battling Robin. It's confusing because they're not particularly good at battling Robin except probably for adult Tiki.
BuckRobotron
Member
Figures, I'm the opposite. Bah.
Sully is on my short list of ppl I want to take to 5 stars. Pretty good.
pokemonsquared
Banned
Watch as the next set of bonus units turn out to be Fir,Tiki, Hawkeye, Female Robin, and Maria.
As we all know the bonus characters are just a way to coerce people to roll more to get that arena rank.
As we all know the bonus characters are just a way to coerce people to roll more to get that arena rank.
zelhawks37
Member
Got female robin pretty easily, but she is pretty meh imo. Guess I gotta pull for a Nino.
Pretty much, but it's not the first game to do it, and won't be the last. Sadly.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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so im still in dire need of a green hero
what ya guys think probably should wait for better banners?
what ya guys think probably should wait for better banners?
Yeah.
Greens in a tricky position at the moment really.
There isn't many of them, and even then a good proportion of them are flying. Flying is too easily countered with how popular Takumi is.
Hawkeye is on the current banner but I don't think he's fantastic unless he improves drastically at 5*. (I own the 4* ver of him).
Definitely. Orbs are in short supply, and none of the current green heroes are worth the risk imo, even though I think Julia is pretty good.
ZSaberLink
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Honestly the most common green right now that's good is probably Anna. She has good stats, Vantage 3, and essentially Escape Route in her axe when she hits 5*s. I've found Gunter at 4* to be a decent phys tank (at 30 DEF right now) and has decent attack, but he gets slaughtered by mages. Otherwise, it's looking like Hector, Nino and Julia are worth it. Camilla is iffy thanks to archers and being a glass cannon with not the greatest attack.
Well, I got 3,914 in Arena with my main team + lvl 6 2* Narcian with a perfect run. I guess I could level him up more but I'm too lazy
. We'll see what rank that puts me at. Last week I think 3900 almost got me into 100K, so this probably would given the slightly weaker week.I'm not sure who I want to try to get anymore. I'm pretty happy with my team, though no one is a bonus character this season.
I'm currently running Jakob - Lucina - Nowi - Olivia, and I feel like the team works well towards a slow burning play style that takes advantage of defensive buffs and regeneration.
Jakob and Nowi respectively have rally def and rally resistance, which is good for buffing and placing someone strong as bait. I usually use Jakob or Nowi for this, then follow up when it's my turn with either Olivia dancing someone or just going in with Lucina. For strong melee units I can hit and run with Jakob+Olivia, which takes advantage of Jakob's regeneration. Armored units like Effie and Hector can be kited so that Lucina + Jakob can regen before I take them down. My team usually doesn't oneshot people, but Jakob and Olivia do a great job of helping Nowi/Lucina get kills.
I've been able to beat most teams I've fought this way, though I think I may be weak to very aggressive teams on cramped maps, since my team seems to work based on resilience/winning by attrition rather than by crushing people.
The only thing I might replace is changing Olivia for Azura, since a hard-hitting blue might be nice. Maaayybe change Jakob for a powerful ranged damage nuke, but I'm surprised at Jakob usefulness. His kit didn't seem that good on paper, but he always has something to contribute.
I'm currently running Jakob - Lucina - Nowi - Olivia, and I feel like the team works well towards a slow burning play style that takes advantage of defensive buffs and regeneration.
Jakob and Nowi respectively have rally def and rally resistance, which is good for buffing and placing someone strong as bait. I usually use Jakob or Nowi for this, then follow up when it's my turn with either Olivia dancing someone or just going in with Lucina. For strong melee units I can hit and run with Jakob+Olivia, which takes advantage of Jakob's regeneration. Armored units like Effie and Hector can be kited so that Lucina + Jakob can regen before I take them down. My team usually doesn't oneshot people, but Jakob and Olivia do a great job of helping Nowi/Lucina get kills.
I've been able to beat most teams I've fought this way, though I think I may be weak to very aggressive teams on cramped maps, since my team seems to work based on resilience/winning by attrition rather than by crushing people.
The only thing I might replace is changing Olivia for Azura, since a hard-hitting blue might be nice. Maaayybe change Jakob for a powerful ranged damage nuke, but I'm surprised at Jakob usefulness. His kit didn't seem that good on paper, but he always has something to contribute.
pokemonsquared
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To be fair the best Green physical Hector will always be a long shot. And if you want Nino you'll have to cough up 20k feathers and Camilla isn't bad on offense where you can keep her from Takumi. Julia is pretty nice but I miss out on a bunch of ORKOs (Robin, Tiki) because I don't have a+atk nature which is aggravating.
But yeah overall Greens aren't doing so well.
Red_taiyaki
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I'd wait unless you had a dying need for Hector/Nino/Julia like I did.
Once I discovered that she was actually a very good third member for my Robin/Chiki/[Abel/Lyn/Kagero] team I decided I would go full whale for her. Luckily I got her within a few pulls, maybe 20 orbs?, through targeted sniping.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Jakob being able to debuff defense and resistance at range is really nice. There are some great utility characters that make you wish your team could be 5 characters. Like Azama for instance would be a really cool fifth character.
ZSaberLink
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pokemonsquared
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Those stats look pretty meh. Not gonna lie.
Camilla will have her day. I think she's a very good unit that is only hindered by the current meta, but metas shift each week...
He really is. He's the reason I no longer fear Takumis, Falchion users, multiple dragons, armored units, and (to a lesser extent) Robin.
Takumi: Jakob + Nowi's Rally Defense to bait and counterattack, then either send in someone to finish him off, or just back off and continue the fight, since the regen makes retreats work in my favor.
Falchion users: This used to scare me because Lucina mirror matches usually hurt my Lucina too much to have her fight more for at least another few turns. Now, Jakob can hit at range 2x with Dance, or hit once + dance to retreat. 2x Jakob hits outright kills middle-level reds because he benefits from his own debuffs. And I can always send in someone stronger to finish off.
Multiple dragons: Jakob takes some of the dragon-killing load away from Lucina because he can rally resistance on Nowi to get her to bait/kill other dragons without taking too much damage in return. Fae is totally Lucina's job, though.
Armored units: Jakob + Olivia can kite and/or soften Effie. Alone, Jakob can also take a melee hit from Effie if necessary, then run away to regen. Hector will counterattack Jakob to death though, but Lucina can kill him in a straight fight as long as she's at full health.
MRobin: Robin's strong against Jakob, but his counterattack doesn't actually oneshot him, so the debuff > strong melee combo still works. Kind of a soft counter, but still better than Camilla because at least Jakob can regen the counter damage.
Yeah I got tired of waiting and am now working on my Anna.
That sounds bizarre. Are the pots still gone?
Sadly I don't remember what I was at before.
My stamina certainly isn't full though. When that unit was level 27, it was long enough ago that I should be at full stamina now, and I'm not. Instead it seems like I've still got the stamina I had when I last shut the game + any accrued from time past.
Man-is-Obsolete
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4354 in the arena is what it is going to have to be I suppose, only had one character die once. Cracked top 10,000 but I know that is not going to last. So long as I can get at least 1,500 feathers for rank.
I feel like I need to highlight an amusing little synergy after that post. Sharena and Nino are BFFs.
If Sharena and Nino start their turn side by side, the following happens. Nino's Def is boosted +4. Rally Attack boosts Nino's Atk +4. The sum of bonuses is added to her damage, which is +8. Nino's already considerable damage output gets boosted by 12 per attack (!) by teaming up with Sharena. Now if you have a dancer to allow Nino to attack twice, you can often remove some stubborn enemy units from the board like that. I like to do it to Lucina and Marth. Roy is tougher. Probably better to just send Sharena after him. And Ryoma is a no-go. He can hit back.
If Sharena and Nino start their turn side by side, the following happens. Nino's Def is boosted +4. Rally Attack boosts Nino's Atk +4. The sum of bonuses is added to her damage, which is +8. Nino's already considerable damage output gets boosted by 12 per attack (!) by teaming up with Sharena. Now if you have a dancer to allow Nino to attack twice, you can often remove some stubborn enemy units from the board like that. I like to do it to Lucina and Marth. Roy is tougher. Probably better to just send Sharena after him. And Ryoma is a no-go. He can hit back.
Very meh. Her passives are also nothing to write home about.
Pejo
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Hell yea! Beat the Hard Robin stage.
With only 2 characters, lol
I accidentally picked some alt team I had been playing with, and here's what happened.
Team:
-40 Lucina
-40 Takumi
-1 Peri
-20 something Sakura
Moved Lucina in front, spot right before hitting the danger zone, Takumi behind her.
First move moved Lucina up to the right. Takumi forward 2 spots.
Computer suicided itself with Robin, red mage, and the green axe guy, blue mage got some damage on Lucina, but she survived with 6 hp,
Second round, Takumi finished off the blue lancer, and lucina finished off blue mage.
I can't believe it was really that easy and i did it by accident.
I don't really even care about the 3* Robin, it just annoyed me that I wasted so much stamina on that and didn't beat it. Now my mind is at rest.
Choke points by design are still bullshit though.
With only 2 characters, lol
I accidentally picked some alt team I had been playing with, and here's what happened.
Team:
-40 Lucina
-40 Takumi
-1 Peri
-20 something Sakura
Moved Lucina in front, spot right before hitting the danger zone, Takumi behind her.
First move moved Lucina up to the right. Takumi forward 2 spots.
Computer suicided itself with Robin, red mage, and the green axe guy, blue mage got some damage on Lucina, but she survived with 6 hp,
Second round, Takumi finished off the blue lancer, and lucina finished off blue mage.
I can't believe it was really that easy and i did it by accident.
I don't really even care about the 3* Robin, it just annoyed me that I wasted so much stamina on that and didn't beat it. Now my mind is at rest.
Choke points by design are still bullshit though.
so this is what i'm working with right now
not sure how well this works since three of them all have the same +attack buffs and i'm not sure how much use nino gets out of that. ideally i would probably want azura instead of olivia though
If you don't mind spending the feathers, promote Sharena to 5* and you'll have a nicely balanced team with lots of buffs and big numbers.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Most people: Oh man, I got trolled by 3 ★ Robin. Damn
Me:
I'd happily trade you one of my 4
I have a 5★ Hawkeye as my only decent ★'d green unit. I'm probably just going to promote up Anna if I want an Axe user that badly. His statline wants him to be a reasonably strong anti-mage bruiser-y unit but his avg. 22 SPD means he gets pounded by most Swords by virtue of speed and typing but he also still has issues him with Linde dealing 60%+ of his HP; he often feels like a liability in Arena. I guess he's decent vs M.Robin? Ultimately it's hard to get him to do his job and I really wish his ability AoE shape wasn't so awkward; maybe if I had better ways to catapult him around via Shove or if healers were more valuable then he'd have a better place in Arena?
On that note, across two accounts now I have pulled zero Green casters so middling F.Robin is still being eyed as a 4★ for the sake of coverage + PvE stuff has a greater fondness for cavalry and blue mages. Or sacrifices to the RNG gods for green mages to appear.
Most people: Oh man, I got trolled by 3 ★ Robin. Damn
Me:
I have one and was considering promoting him until I discovered he was -spd
I noticed google signed me out of my account on mobile, or at least I got an notifcation a bit after asking me to sign in again. (No idea why this happened, I can't find anything unusual in my account)
I'm wondering if this is related to the rollback that occurred. Doesn't excuse it mind you, the game should be doing updates to the server every single time you finish a mission to tell the game "Oh by the way, this player finished mission x and their characters are now z,y,a and b." When you log in again it should have those updates. :|
I'm wondering if this is related to the rollback that occurred. Doesn't excuse it mind you, the game should be doing updates to the server every single time you finish a mission to tell the game "Oh by the way, this player finished mission x and their characters are now z,y,a and b." When you log in again it should have those updates. :|
sharena in place of nino?
No. Nino is the whole reason to run a buff heavy team. Read her weapon stats. All buffs, no matter what kind, get added as damage. Except for Atk, it gets added twice. +4 anything is +4 damage. +4 Atk is +8 damage.
She is easily one of the units who benefits the most from being buffed. In theory you could make her do 20 additional damage if you manage to +4 all her stats. (+Atk, +Spd, +Def, and +Res) Realistically 12-16 is probably as good as it gets with Sharena and someone else buffing another stat. Eirika would be amazing for that. Nino would love +Spd.
I would replace Olivia actually.
What
I had no idea
That's pretty crazy. I run a buff heavy team with Sharena. Seems I need Nino.
Or Tharja, depending on what colors you need.
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