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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|The Future of Fire Emblem
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Just pulled a 5* Atk+/HP- Jeorge. Is he any good?
You'll fuck up the day of anyone running a mostly red team, which is more common than you think. It's a fine defense team.
What do you guys think of my current arena defense team? I feel like it might be too heavy on the lances in case people start switching to RobinF/Axe users more often.
You'll fuck up the day of anyone running a mostly red team, which is more common than you think. It's a fine defense team.
Not even Julia/Nino can ORKO Julia though due to Wary Fighter. That's the crux of my my argument; no ranged unit can match Klein's ability to ORKO units. That's why he's appealing. Example
Can you give me examples, then? Because I can't think of support units who match Eirika's +7 buffs on top of her passable combat and drag back/pivot utility.
In my experience Jeorge seems to be a slightly tankier Takumi, obviously without Close Counter. He's pretty solid IMO, but his special is really hard to take advantage of since it's a flat horizontal line, but at least it does great damage.
Thanks, that's the intention!
Freaking Limit
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She makes a decent replacement for Gunter if you don't have him or ddin't want to promote him to 4* for Hone Cavalry. Still, Erika is tied for the best single support unit along with dancers.
Also, on Klein, I'm not really convinced he is so amazing. He is basically a faster Gordin (trades in defense, and still not fast enough), and Gordin hasn't been doing too much for me. I'm just going to assume the gold standard of killing reds is being able to nuke Lucina. Neutral Klein needs + 1 attack in order to OHKO neutral Lucina, and plus attack Klein can't ORKO +HP or + Def Lucina. Lucina isn't really what I'd call bulky either. In practice, almost everyone runs some kind of attack buff, so this isn't too big of an issue, but it leaves me feeling meh. Klein isn't a bad unit though, just not amazing to me. I'd rather marry my support unit to a -blade mage than a brave bow user.
All 4 shots show him using his skill to boost damage. How is this even a good comparison to anyone else?
I would much rather this.
http://feheroes.wiki/Corrin_(F)
As I understand it, he's a solid bow user. Kind of like Takumi but minus the close counter.
I mostly just pull blues and greens these days. I have way too many 5* sword users (2 Lucinas, Ryoma, and Roy), and the only grey I'm interested in is Kagero, so I don't bother pulling grey.
ShakuganSan
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Semi permanent death sounds interesting, gives me more reason to use and train my 4*s if my 5*s die
SenorArdilla
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One Round Knock Out
You engage an enemy and KO them after their followup attack.
OHKO is you killing the enemy unit outright.
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The special only mattered against Effie. The rest died with or without it. Also, he charges his special pretty fast with his Brave Weapon, and saving her for last is easy due to her pathetic movement range. Even if you don't charge it, he does 48 HP to her, which is a goddamn ton, and way more than every single mage in the game.
I like using her too (I use both her and Eirika on my main team), but she doesn't have Hone Speed + Hone Attack, which is better than just Hone Attack. Heck, they don't even compete for a slot since they fulfill different roles.
When you say a 'banner', what do you mean? I'm new to gatcha.
Each time I've summoned, I've used all of the orbs on the board for max efficiency. Is that what you mean? Or does the fact that some of my pulls were under the 'Princes' thing and some under 'Fighting Ursula' etc mean that it gets reset? Because FUCK if true.
Also it seems from those pictures that those units suffered from debuffs or somethign else. I don't buy these. And even if it did I'm not fully convinced. His kits do not mesh well with his stats on paper.
I said earlier other support roles. I specifically mentioned that it didn't have to be those skills specifically.
Freaking Limit
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The second one. You only stack bonus rates for pulls under the same title, and gain bonus pull rate for every 5 non 5* pulls.
God. Damn. It.
I might be better off doing the reroll thing then at this stage despite being halfway through the campaign on hard.
How many orbs would I get if I started over today?
I can then keep rerolling until I get a decent start on an all-manakete team, which would be my ultimate desire, whether it's decent at fighting or not.
The banner is the summoning focus in question - Princes, Fighting Ursula, and the current one with Ninian etc for example. If you pick all the orbs you're being more efficient, but if for example you were pulling under the Princes banner then the only focus units were Ephraim, Chrom and Leo. So green and colorless orbs would only have the normal rates instead of the additional chance for a 5* Chrom/Ephraim/Leo.
And yeah it's bullshit but each focus has its own appearance rate that climbs as you fail to find stuff. If the banner goes away before you find one, it all goes away.
it might have been a bit better to do it two days ago as you'd have the launch celebration maps, but a free 25 right off the bat would be nice for rapidly trying over and over. And halfway through hard is something you could breeze through really fast with some strong units, especially if you start off with a good team and have spare orbs for the upgraded exp castle.
Freaking Limit
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I think you'd get 35? The 20 orbs for the Lucina Massacre, and then the 15 base orbs for starting. Don't remember if there are other orbs, but you should be able to easliy make 40 orbs. You'll have the para/xenologues too.
EDIT, you'll have 40 with the 5 free orbs. Also, consider heavily if you want top upgrade you castle all the way. 18 orbs for last 40% EXP boost isn't always a good idea...
ZSaberLink
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What do you guys think of my current arena defense team? I feel like it might be too heavy on the lances in case people start switching to RobinF/Axe users more often.
Are you putting in Lyn instead of Lucina in your DEF team as bait or something?
That's a very good point I overlooked. I would switch out Lyn for Lucina.
Alright, let's math it out.
Klein has 38 base attack. Death Blow puts him at 44/. Takumi has 25 defense. After an attack boost, he's at 48. (48 - 25) * 2 = 46. Dead Takumi.
vs Hector, he deals (48 - 37) * 4 = 44. Hector's alive. BUT, his skill will always proc against Hector due to Distant Counter. So it's actually (11 + 11 + 11 + 30) Dead Hector.
I emphatically disagree that his kit doesn't mesh with his stats. Death Blow is a top tier skill for ranged units, and Quick Riposte gives him a strong enemy phase. He has literally everything he needs to succeed.
Those skills are the go-to skills for support, though. There isn't much out there that matches it outside of Dancing and Defense buffs. Healers are underpowered.
Hmm. I asked simply because I have way too many lances and swords too. 😂
Cheers for the response.
PSA: So when I was rolling for Ninian I did some experimenting about the 5* rate increases after every round. Here's what I found. If you select one gem out of 5 and then stop the summoning, it will NOT increase the rate by .25%. However, if you select at least two then it will increase it by the aforementioned percent. Use this info as you will.
I really don't want to make this into a back and forth but as I mentioned before, his special is being used. Idk.
Alright, let's math it out.
Klein has 38 base attack. Death Blow puts him at 44/. Takumi has 25 defense. After an attack boost, he's at 48. (48 - 25) * 2 = 46. Dead Takumi.
vs Hector, he deals (48 - 37) * 4 = 44. Hector's alive. BUT, his skill will always proc against Hector due to Distant Counter. So it's actually (11 + 11 + 11 + 30) Dead Hector.
I emphatically disagree that his kit doesn't mesh with his stats. Death Blow is a top tier skill for ranged units, and Quick Riposte gives him a strong enemy phase. He has literally everything he needs to succeed.
Those skills are the go-to skills for support, though. There isn't much out there that matches it outside of Dancing and Defense buffs. Healers are underpowered.
I really don't want to make this into a back and forth but as I mentioned before, his special is being used. Idk.
Technoweirdo
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2HKO's not -quite- the same as a ORKO because some characters may be strong enough to 2HKO (Hello, Alfonse!) but lack the Speed to pull it off in one round (lol Alfonse).
I don't either, but i'd just like to break down how his special works:
It starts at (4). Klein attacks Hector once (3), then he attacks again (2), Hector counterattacks (1), Klein attacks again (★
and then he attacks one last time, activating his special. Basically, when fighting Hector, he will always activate his special.
That typo was unfortunate
Thanks for the detailed explanation, I think I'll keep my orbs as I already have Olivia as a dancer and I'm fine with her for the moment
ZSaberLink
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I don't think there's a new banner tomorrow considering this one just released. I think the next scheduled one will be the one with Minerva that was datamined, and that should be a couple days before 3/24 when the next Grand Hero Battle is.
It also depends if we have a surprise event like the voting battle again.
theprodigy
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Did you seriously just say this in a Fire Emblem thread?
The next banner will most likely be the battle Michalis banner which is late march
Sushen
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Hmm a bit disappointing then. I'll be stockpiling my orbs instead, although I'm not too excited for Minerva. Any othe units rumored in the batch?
I thought they usually run two banners at the same time mostly.
Yeah, I can confirm that you start with 48 orbs at the moment. I've started rerolling. That's enough for 11 summons per reroll.
I've done 4 full rerolls now, so with my original 40 pulls and the new 44, that's 88 without a 5 star. Starting to get frustrating but I'll press on.
yes?
not sure when the term is applicable in fire emblem since a unit who can't 2hko isn't worth a damn and i was a member of fess for more than 5 years
Sushen
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What playing? I thought pulling is the game and the other part is intermission.
ZSaberLink
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Effie is a really good knight. Karel is the swordsman from the new banners, right? He's supposed to be decent, kind of like Lyn.
SenorArdilla
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I finally got four armored units.
Sheena
Gwendolyn
Draug
Draug
Now to level them up.
Sheena
Gwendolyn
Draug
Draug
Now to level them up.
SerArthurDayne
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Leveling up for the Lunatic mission? I'm doing the same. Still going to be hard. I have a 5* Effie, but I'll need Draug to pull weight as a three star with Hector, and he isn't even close to tough enough as of level 30. Because of the particular map setup you can't really have any weak links or they'll get killed by something quickly. Not sure if Draug has it in him, but I'm definitely not spending the feathers to upgrade him. Effie can take on everybody else, but killing Hector and keeping anybody else dying are my main issues.
Running Effie, four star Gwendolyn and Sheena, and Draug. All but Effie are around 30 right now, though.
Running Effie, four star Gwendolyn and Sheena, and Draug. All but Effie are around 30 right now, though.
Lost for the first time in the arena in 4 seasons. Effie, Ryoma, Olivia and a damn 4* Nino. I got in a really awkward position where Ryoma was keeping my mages at a point where I'd have to trade but I didn't want to so I cornered myself and then Nino/Olivia snuck in and took out Robin and then I was toast.
Ghost is Bad
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is a 5star Female Corrin or Nowi better for a nino based team?
Depends on how Inheritance works, keep them until we find out tomorrow.
A lot of people are saying Nowi but personally I prefer Corrin.
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