Negotiator101
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So you want what exactly?
first screenshot of avowed
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New Vegas but fantasy.
Makoto-Yuki
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i don't know why i'm meant to be excited. hardly seen anything of it lol and you have people hyped about it. need to see more before i know if i want to buy it or not.
Negotiator101
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Well that sounds feasible, hopefully that's what they're going for.
SmokedMeat
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That's all you played? Outer Worlds and Fallout New Vegas? And you're talking shit on Obsidian?
Negotiator101
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That's the beauty of Gamepass.
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I also played Pillars of Eternity. Never grabbed me. And South Park: The Stick of Truth. That's hardy comparable.
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GymWolf
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I consider the outer world an rpg aswell, i guess you have a more strict meaning of the word rpg.
GymWolf
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He is not talking shit tho, at best we were discussing what we consider an rpg.
he even had the guts to play the mediocrity that was outer world twice...
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SafeOrAlone
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If the character is flying, I'm down.
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The Outer Worlds it's an RPG, just not a proper RPG. You can argue that Horizon Zero Dawn is an RPG. Like you have said, RPG term is overused these days.
SmokedMeat
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So Obsidian's making proper RPGs. You just have shit taste.
GymWolf
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Well i think that the outer world is much of a proper rpg than horizon, like not even close.
Horizon only has the combat aspect being rpg, you don't have choices or different methods to finish a mission etc, it is very action-y throught and through.
I didn't played vegas so i'm probably missing something that is not present in OW.
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OsirisBlack
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Still interested.
splattered
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Damn i loved PoE 1&2, can't wait for this!
SmokedMeat
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Outer Worlds was pretty good considering it had such a small budget. With Microsoft backing them I think they'll be able to produce better.
GymWolf
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Agree to disagree for the first half (matter of taste i guess), finger crossed for the second half.
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yurinka
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Look at this guy. Obsidian fan #1.
I never said that I don't like Obsidian games, genius.
Fallout 1, a game from 1997 offers me more role playing possibilities than The Outer Worlds, newest RPG from your favourite developer. My taste is just fine buddy.
GymWolf
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Have you played piranha byte games? they should give you what you search and then some.Look at this guy. Obsidian fan #1.
I never said that I don't like Obsidian games, genius.
Fallout 1, a game from 1997 offers me more role playing possibilities than The Outer Worlds, newest RPG from your favourite developer. My taste is just fine buddy.
(pretty sure that you already played them tho)
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Hell yeah. Sadly Piranha Bytes games are on the same trajectory as Obsidian games. And let me tell you it's not up.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Don't think a bigger budget would have fixed that shitty writing
GymWolf
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You think the 2 elex weren't enough rpg?
Shit you can do the fuck you want in these games...
Or it was something related to writing, world building etc.?
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No, I've meant that their games are too junky for today's standards. That shit was acceptable in the 90s and early 00s, not so much today. Or maybe I'm old and my patience is gone. I'm sure I would love Elex if I could ignore all the junk and questionable design decision. There's a great RPG experience underneath it all. Maybe I should try it give it another try on the Deck.
Rhazer Fusion
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That would be nice, but I highly doubt it.
GymWolf
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I think your patience is gone but you are also right, combat is fucking terrible in these games.
Give them another try, elex 2 is a bit better combat wise but you would lose all the world building and recurring characters from the first one if you only play that one.
Exploration and sense of progression\freedom is great in these games.
Just remember to play at max difficulty, they lose their raison d'etre if you play at any other difficulty.
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Solarstrike
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cinnamonandgravy
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can you poop in this game?
Fuz
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Every game developer that includes a complex first person magic system creation in their games should be forced to play Daggerfall all the way through, so they can see what TO do.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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It's obviously low resolution (720p, if that) and it doesn't say anything to how the game actually runs (30 or 60, how's the framepacing etc.), but...that looks pretty good for a pre-alpha, NGL.
Obsidian's always developed visually competent games but I dunno if they've ever made anything visually arresting. Not saying Avowed could be that game, I just think it looks pretty good for what's shown here even if it's low-res. But higher resolution images and some actual footage would really speak to how it looks in motion which is always more important.
I do quite like the way they do the magic casting, it's in line with the 2020 trailer. Hoping fidelity is at least close to that trailer as well, that would be awesome.
Zero chance you're getting Avowed in 2023 and Outer Worlds 2 in 2024; they're both modestly large WRPGs, going for at least high-end AA if not modest AAA scope from what I can tell. Grounded and Pentiment are much smaller games and the former was in beta for multiple years.
IF Avowed comes 2023, the earliest for Outer Worlds 2 is 2025.
Obsidian's always developed visually competent games but I dunno if they've ever made anything visually arresting. Not saying Avowed could be that game, I just think it looks pretty good for what's shown here even if it's low-res. But higher resolution images and some actual footage would really speak to how it looks in motion which is always more important.
I do quite like the way they do the magic casting, it's in line with the 2020 trailer. Hoping fidelity is at least close to that trailer as well, that would be awesome.
Zero chance you're getting Avowed in 2023 and Outer Worlds 2 in 2024; they're both modestly large WRPGs, going for at least high-end AA if not modest AAA scope from what I can tell. Grounded and Pentiment are much smaller games and the former was in beta for multiple years.
IF Avowed comes 2023, the earliest for Outer Worlds 2 is 2025.
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Swift_Star
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Another first person game lol
01011001
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maybe you can change perspective, if they try to reach the Skyrim crowd with this they might implement that
The_hunter
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I like NV, lots of rpg mechanics, different character builds and each quest has a ton of branching options and lots of different endings.
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Kenneth Haight
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This should be the start of a raft of heavies from MS. I liked the look of what we saw but it was very brief last year. Could be something very special.
ChorizoPicozo
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Should, but it will not. (Release schedule).
bitbydeath
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Edit: Wrong thread
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samoilaaa
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yeah , outer worlds had very shallow costumization options , like most of your skills didnt matter that much , the loot was very generic and almost everything looked the same , the only good thing about that game was that the choices really matters
as for the last good rpg from obsidian i would say its pillars of eternity ( there are some people that like POE 2 more but im not one of them )
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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That's not necessarily a great thing in all cases.
But for this specific game, it's something I could have seen myself buying if it weren't in GamePass Day 1.