Phoenix Fang
Banned
Yeah I was joking
I figured you were but sometimes can't be too sure on the interwebs.
I'm quite sure the professional managers would say otherwise.
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I figured you were but sometimes can't be too sure on the interwebs.
I'm quite sure the professional managers would say otherwise.
Willkiller
Banned
F that, we got our asses pounded.
Here's to Wednesday...
Well there is a couple of games I don't want to see obviously haha. Meh, I'm over it already, we're going to get a result on wednesday. Quote me on it
So there are only 11 world class players. Who's world class out of Casillas, Buiffon, Reina, Neuer?
Well there is a couple of games I don't want to see obviously haha. Meh, I'm over it already, we're going to get a result on wednesday. Quote me on it
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Hart.
I specifically did not say Hart because Jeff does not rate him.
Jeff Albertson
Member
Well Reina certainly isnt thats for sure.
Each to their own maybe my definition is flawed but for me Suarez falls behind the likes of Messi and Ronaldo, if he's world class then what does that make them?
By the way I'm not being deliberately inflammatory the lad is supremely talented
They would by the media but we're cleverer than that.
Suarez is tier two for me. Top tier is Messi, Ronaldo etc. Suarez is a rung below
Is the Top Tier just Messi and Ronaldo?
They're God tier.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Casillas, Buffon and Neur.
Willkiller
Banned
I saw their major holes against Barca. All we need to do is actually take a few shots, keep men back for counter attacks and it's in the bag
Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Rooney, Bale, Parker, Terry.
I realise you're trolling with Bale and Terry but Rooney?
Edit: You've stealthed me and it seems I think Parker is world class.
I saw their major holes against Barca. All we need to do is actually take a few shots, keep men back for counter attacks and it's in the bag
Meh. Not confident at all after our performance today.
Will be nice to get better defenders next season.
Vivalaraza
Member
I agree with you.
I made a long post about it first time we had the discussion, but yeah, he's not world class for me.
I only consider 3/4 forwards in the PL world class though, and even then, just. (Aguero, Tevez, Rooney and RVP). Rooney and RVP at a stretch. People have totally different definitions of what world class is. Suarez hasn't played well at the top level consistently enough for me, not yet.
Great hat trick though, beautiful goals.
Badstuber > Messi.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Top-tier - Ronaldo & Messi
World-class - Van Persie, Iniesta, Xavi, Alonso, Cavani, Rooney, Ibrahimovic
Level below - Suarez, Nani, Llorente, Soldado
They're just examples of the way I consider players in terms of world-class or not. If Suarez's finishing can become consistently decent, he'll move up a tier. It doesn't even need to be brilliant due to the number of chances he gets and creates for himself and others
World-class - Van Persie, Iniesta, Xavi, Alonso, Cavani, Rooney, Ibrahimovic
Level below - Suarez, Nani, Llorente, Soldado
They're just examples of the way I consider players in terms of world-class or not. If Suarez's finishing can become consistently decent, he'll move up a tier. It doesn't even need to be brilliant due to the number of chances he gets and creates for himself and others
Willkiller
Banned
Meh. Not confident at all after our performance today.
Will be nice to get better defenders next season.
I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it performance wise, obviously it's very dissapointing considering our push for 4th but I don't think it changes my opinion that we can get good results from the last 3. Today we underestimated a Wigan side that is very much in form, taken points off the big clubs and should have beaten Chelsea themselves. I doubt we will have the same tactics against Chelsea, we won't underestimate them.
Vivalaraza
Member
I'm telling you man. Sack Pardew and get Guardiola.
Jeff Albertson
Member
Maybe we should make a football gaf world eleven if we could agree and vote on it!
Also where is the north west end of season meet up taking place
Also where is the north west end of season meet up taking place
Vivalaraza
Member
United-GAF would ensure the CM was Clev-Pog.Maybe we should make a football gaf world eleven if we could agree and vote on it!
Also where is the north west end of season meet up taking place
Somewhere in Manchester!
No. That's why I said etc haha.
Messi, Ronaldo, Casillas, Xavi, Iniesta, Schweinsteiger, Vidic, Thiago Silva, Lahm, Buffon, Neuer... Off the top of my head.
Maybe a few years ago but Alonso right now is a "good" player at best.
I would add Ribéry, Schweinsteiger and Lahm to "world-class". And Cavani is "level below".
Maybe we should make a football gaf world eleven if we could agree and vote on it!
Also where is the north west end of season meet up taking place
Does that not still suggest there are only 11 "world class" players?
I'd agree with this.
But I think there are a few more players in the top tier.
I wouldn't just put Ronaldo and Messi there by themselves.
And no. The top 11 players in their position does not just mean there is only one in each
Jeff Albertson
Member
Maybe we should make a football gaf world eleven if we could agree and vote on it!
Also where is the north west end of season meet up taking place
Casillas
Dani Alves
Vidic
Kompany
Lahm
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
Robben
Messi
Rooney
That would be my world 11 if I used a bog standard 4-4-2. Maybe replace Rooney with Schweinsteiger and play Iniesta as an AM and have Messi up on his own if I use a 4-5-1.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Van Persie is better than Rooney.
Do we have to consider how well the team would function ie. Do we need a defensive midfielder?
Do we have to consider how well the team would function ie. Do we need a defensive midfielder?
Schweinsteiger gave his shirt to Demichelis who was in the stadium for the Real Madrid vs. Bayern match. Now mini-micho is using it!
Bayern Family <3 i love the spirit in our club.
As good as Cavani is he isn't a level above Suarez. No doubt Cavani is a goal scorer but Suarez has a lot more to his game just like we see for Uruguay every time they play. Suarez to the people in Uruguay is god tier alongside Forlan.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Yeah that team really needs Schweinsteiger or another defender with some kind of defensive abilities, haha
Broder Salsa
Banned
Problem is Cavani is playing semi out of position on the Uruguay team. At least he has every time I have seen them.
Which was exactly my point. Suarez in the main man.
What a master class by Suarez, congrats Liverpool-GAF!
Yeah, he plays on the right/wide. :/
Suarez - Forlan - Cavani.
It was different in the CA though?
Yeah, he plays on the right/wide. :/
Suarez - Forlan - Cavani.
It was different in the CA though?
Broder Salsa
Banned
That he's not the best to play out of position?
Willkiller
Banned
City fan calling in on 606 saying he wants City to lose on Monday because he wants Mancini out and Pep in.
Now I've heard everything. :lol :lol
Now I've heard everything. :lol :lol
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