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[Vivalaraza]

Van Persie is better than Rooney.

I genuinely don't think he is. Especially when you consider RVP has been playing at a top level for not much longer than 12 months.

Which was exactly my point. Suarez in the main man.

Why do you think Suarez seems to play so much better for Uruguay?

Fwiw, sometimes the best player is the one sacrificed to play out of his preferred role. No idea if that's the case with Uruguay but with somebody like Rooney for example it is true.

 

[Scum]

Casillas

Vidic
Puyol
Maldini

Xavi
Alonso
Zidane
Ronaldinho

Messi
Ronaldo 9
C. Ronaldo

 

[Carbonox]

City fan calling in on 606 saying he wants City to lose on Monday because he wants Mancini out and Pep in.

Now I've heard everything. :lol :lol

The intelligence some club fans can display makes me ashamed to be part of this race.

 

[Scum]

City fan calling in on 606 saying he wants City to lose on Monday because he wants Mancini out and Pep in.

Now I've heard everything. :lol :lol

But Pep is taking a break from footie for a while, though. :lol

 

[Carbonox]

Casillas

Vidic
Puyol
Maldini

Xavi
Alonso
Zidane
Ronaldinho

Messi
Ronaldo 9
C. Ronaldo

Where is Maldini, Zidane and Fat Ronaldo™? I haven't seen them around lately? Out injured?

 

[Salvadora]

I genuinely don't think he is. Especially when you consider RVP has been playing at a top level for not much longer than 12 months.

RVP has had injury problems..

 

[ShogunX]

That he's not the best to play out of position?

Suarez is pure quality coming in from wide and the majority of goals he gets normally involve him doing so. Like I said earlier Cavani is a pure goal scorer but Suarez has so much more to his game.

Why do you think Suarez seems to play so much better for Uruguay?

Fwiw, sometimes the best player is the one sacrificed to play out of his preferred role. No idea if that's the case with Uruguay but with somebody like Rooney for example it is true.

He gets much better support when playing with Uruguay and the way they are setup gets the most from him. One week he is paired with Andy Carroll and the next he has support from Cavani and Forlan.

 

[Noirulus]

Maybe a few years ago but Alonso right now is a "good" player at best.

I would add Ribéry, Schweinsteiger and Lahm to "world-class". And Cavani is "level below".

"Good at best"? Really? He's still one of the best long passers in football and plays good defense.

 

[RaGe_pt]

5 mins till the start of our game! Our starting eleven:
F.C. PORTO: Helton, Sapunaru, Maicon, Otamendi e Alex Sandro; Fernando, Lucho e João Moutinho; Varela, Hulk e James Rodriguez.

PORTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

 

[Wilbur]

RVP has had injury problems..

Which is why I would be loathe to say he's better than Rooney

 

[elseanio]

I think there are a host of players who could replace Saurez and make Liverpool better (not gonna make a list..) so for that reason, I can't say he's quite world class yet. Add more goals to his game, and he will set pushing it. What is he, 24? Still plenty of time. I hope he's still here when he peaks.

That said, he was brilliant today. Clearly our best player. Punished 3 mistakes with a sublime hattrick.

 

[Vivalaraza]

RVP has had injury problems..

I know, which is unfortunate for him, but it remains true that until about a year ago he was not playing consistently as a top player, even when he was uninjured.

Robben for example is often injured but plays wonderfully well whenever he gets on the pitch.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Why do you think Suarez seems to play so much better for Uruguay?

Fwiw, sometimes the best player is the one sacrificed to play out of his preferred role. No idea if that's the case with Uruguay but with somebody like Rooney for example it is true.

From what I remember watching the Copa America, Uruguay basically draw the other team in by pressing the ball and allowing them to get to the point between the half-way line and their goal area. Then they'd up the intensity and all of a sudden, its Cavani-Forlan-Suarez running at 4 players. When you're attacking in those numbers, there are few better than Suarez at exploiting even the slightest mis-step from a defender.

At Liverpool on the other hand, he generally recieves the ball between the wing and the centre, and is expected to either dribble past 2+ defenders, play an incisive one-two, recycle possession or shoot. When you factor in the gulf in quality between Suarez and Downing/Bellamy/Kuyt/Carroll, you can see why the intricate stuff doesn't come off as often as I'd like. Plus, his finishing simply isn't as good forus as it is for Uruguay/was for Ajax. I don't know why this is, I'm not sure anyone does.

And of course defenders in England feel more comfortable leaving Carroll, Downing, Kuyt or Bellamy in a bit of space in order to double up on Suarez than they would if they also had to keep an eye of Forlan or Cavani. This is where having Gerrard close to Suarez comes in very handy, you can't leave either of them with a few yards around the box, as their decision making is too swift and first touch too good to risk having enough time to recover if the ball gets to one of them.

 

[Willkiller]

But Pep is taking a break from footie for a while, though. :lol

They told him that. His response was along the lines of 'Yeah, a couple of weeks holiday in the sun. That's what he meant right?'. It was hilarious but they ran out of time so they've told him to call back on monday after the derby

 

[Fry]

Tumblr quality gif of the goal.

Where is your dignity Yenrot.

ps: I'm watching Reservoir Dogs for the first time... damn what a great movie.

 

[elsk]

Gustavo is a much better DM than Busquets, btw.

 

[Yurt]

What a miss by Gago..

 

[Scum]

Where is Maldini, Zidane and Fat Ronaldo™? I haven't seen them around lately? Out injured?

Well, injury forced Ronaldo to retire last year and Zidane is Director of Football at R. Madrid. No idea what Maldini is up to though...

 

[Scum]

They told him that. His response was along the lines of 'Yeah, a couple of weeks holiday in the sun. That's what he meant right?'. It was hilarious but they ran out of time so they've told him to call back on monday after the derby

>_<

 

[Carbonox]

Well, injury forced Ronaldo to retire last year and Zidane is Director of Football at R. Madrid. No idea what Maldini is up to though...

I was joking. You named an 11 consisting of some players who don't play anymore when we were naming current top 11. :lol

 

[Fry]

Gustavo is a much better DM than Busquets, btw.

Had been Busquets in Gustavo's place in the semi-finals, he would have faked an injury after every tackle he was in risk of getting a yellow card for.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Gustavo is a much better DM than Busquets, btw.

Nah, he might be better, but not much better.

I think Busquets is just an incredible player though.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Just wait until the true best DM returns... Come on Essien!

 

[Kyoufu]

Barcelona 2009 team is the best team.

 

[Scum]

I was joking. You named an 11 consisting of some players who don't play anymore when we were naming current top 11. :lol

Oops. My bad.

I was joking. You named an 11 consisting of some players who don't play anymore... :lol

I know. I miss them from football.

:-(

;_;

 

[Meier]

Haha, nice FK by Cavani.

Holy shit, Roma just had one of the best goals I've seen in a long time. GODLY passing.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Barcelona 2009 team is the best team.

Galacticos version 1!

 

[fadetoblack]

Roma up a goal. Napoli's defence is shit. Cavani, time to bail. Come to Juve.

 

[ATF487]

God damn it, I went to help someone with school work and missed a rare Liverpool win

All three goals were great today, hopefully this gets him going. It's been frustrating this season, with his race row and "simulation", but he really is an amazing player on his day. Not a bad price we got for him, either

 

[Broder Salsa]

Roma up a goal. Napoli's defence is shit. Cavani, time to bail. Come to Juve.

Chelsea will be waiting for him to take over Drogbas wage.

 

[fadetoblack]

Chelsea will be waiting for him to take over Drogbas wage.

I think he'll want to play Champions League football next year.

BAYYYERRNNNNNNNNN

Bojan looking good in this game. I really hope for Roma's sake that they give Luis Enrique more time. They play really pretty football at times.

 

[LegoArmo]

Barcelona 2009 team is the best team.

United 2008!

 

[Yurt]

Cavani looks frustrated.

 

[Broder Salsa]

I think he'll want to play Champions League football next year.

It's not like Chelsea won't also take the fourth spot in the league, they are competing with a team that are doing their best impression of Arsenal bottling and a team that loses 4-0 to Wigan.

 

[Wilbur]

If I was to go through positions...

Goalkeeper - Casillas, Buffon, Neuer easy. Reina I've always considered the best but he's had a poor year. Cech would probably be there. Hart not yet, Valdes is overrated.

Full backs - Lahm, Dani Alves, Abidal and still probably Cole. Marcelo's getting there, Sagna's pretty much there. Maicon's lost it.

Centre backs - Vidic, Thiago Silva, Kompany, Puyol, Terry, Chiellini, Hummels. Pepe would be if he stopped being a cunt 100% of the time (as opposed to Terry who's generally alright on the pitch), Pique's immensely talented but doesn't switch on half the time. Ferdinand's been mostly great but lost his pace. Koscielny and Badstuber look promising and Agger is on that second rung.

Centre mids - Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Modric, Xabi Alonso, Schweinsteiger, Yaya, Fabregas. Vidal, Song and Kroos will be there, probably Wilshere if he gets over the injury. Martinez, Marchisio...

Attacking midfielders/wingers - Robben, Ozil, Silva, probably Ribery. Bale, Mata, Di Maria, Munaian, Valencia, Nani, Muller, Kagawa, Götze, Cazorla either will be or are just below.

Strikers - Tevez, RvP, Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba (on form), Rooney, Aguero, Eto'o and Villa. Ibra is too inconsistent, Cavani, Suarez, Soldado, Falcao, Llorente, Higuain, Benzema are below or will be

 

[Wilbur]

Gustavo is a much better DM than Busquets, btw.

And this is wrong. He's very good but I think you're just being Bayern biased. Busquets is incredible.

 

[Willkiller]

Just finished Mass Effect 1 for the first time. Really fun game. Just blasted through the main story though, barely touched any of the side stuff.

Onto Mass Effect 2

 

[Scum]

If I was to go through positions...

Goalkeeper - Casillas, Buffon, Neuer easy. Reina I've always considered the best but he's had a poor year. Cech would probably be there. Hart not yet, Valdes is overrated.

Full backs - Lahm, Dani Alves, Abidal and still probably Cole. Marcelo's getting there, Sagna's pretty much there. Maicon's lost it.

Centre backs - Vidic, Thiago Silva, Kompany, Puyol, Terry, Chiellini, Hummels. Pepe would be if he stopped being a cunt 100% of the time (as opposed to Terry who's generally alright on the pitch), Pique's immensely talented but doesn't switch on half the time. Ferdinand's been mostly great but lost his pace. Koscielny and Badstuber look promising and Agger is on that second rung.

Centre mids - Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Modric, Xabi Alonso, Schweinsteiger, Yaya, Fabregas. Vidal, Song and Kroos will be there, probably Wilshere if he gets over the injury. Martinez, Marchisio...

Attacking midfielders/wingers - Robben, Ozil, Silva, probably Ribery. Bale, Mata, Di Maria, Munaian, Valencia, Nani, Muller, Kagawa, Götze, Cazorla either will be or are just below.

Strikers - Tevez, RvP, Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba (on form), Rooney, Aguero, Eto'o and Villa. Ibra is too inconsistent, Cavani, Suarez, Soldado, Falcao, Llorente, Higuain, Benzema are below or will be

Classy players all around. This will make such an awesome Football Manager squad, though. Just imagine the wage bill! :lol

 

[Yurt]

Ctrl+F: Pirlo

No results.

Spoiler

I read it all actually

 

[Salvadora]

If I was to go through positions...

Goalkeeper - Casillas, Buffon, Neuer easy. Reina I've always considered the best but he's had a poor year. Cech would probably be there. Hart not yet, Valdes is overrated.

Full backs - Lahm, Dani Alves, Abidal and still probably Cole. Marcelo's getting there, Sagna's pretty much there. Maicon's lost it.

Centre backs - Vidic, Thiago Silva, Kompany, Puyol, Terry, Chiellini, Hummels. Pepe would be if he stopped being a cunt 100% of the time (as opposed to Terry who's generally alright on the pitch), Pique's immensely talented but doesn't switch on half the time. Ferdinand's been mostly great but lost his pace. Koscielny and Badstuber look promising and Agger is on that second rung.

Centre mids - Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Modric, Xabi Alonso, Schweinsteiger, Yaya, Fabregas. Vidal, Song and Kroos will be there, probably Wilshere if he gets over the injury. Martinez, Marchisio...

Attacking midfielders/wingers - Robben, Ozil, Silva, probably Ribery. Bale, Mata, Di Maria, Munaian, Valencia, Nani, Muller, Kagawa, Götze, Cazorla either will be or are just below.

Strikers - Tevez, RvP, Ronaldo, Messi, Drogba (on form), Rooney, Aguero, Eto'o and Villa. Ibra is too inconsistent, Cavani, Suarez, Soldado, Falcao, Llorente, Higuain, Benzema are below or will be

Yep, Pretty much great choices all round.

 

[Scum]

Napoli equalise.

 

[Carbonox]

Just finished Mass Effect 1 for the first time. Really fun game. Just blasted through the main story though, barely touched any of the side stuff.

Onto Mass Effect 2

Mass Effect 2 is my favourite game of the generation. Best IP of the generation in-fact.

 

[Fry]

Bayern's goals from today

 

[Yurt]

Why Roma? Why?

 

[Broder Salsa]

Koscielny?

STAY DOWN THERE. So many better defenders out there. Otherwise your picks aren't half bad. Don't think Reina is of the very top either though. It's clear that none of us watch the french league though.

Hasn't falcao been kind of shit this season?

A quick wiki look says 22 goals in 30 matches. Without having watched anything that sounds pretty great.

 

[Ushojax]

Koscielny has been excellent in the second half of the season. Him and Kaboul are the most improved in the league IMO.

 

[Wilbur]

Koscielny's been great this season, yeah. Looks much better with a settled defence around him.

 

[Awesome Animals]

Hasn't falcao been kind of shit this season?
Edit: LOL I'm mixing him up with Forlan. Ignore me.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Koscielny has been excellent in the second half of the season. Him and Kaboul are the most improved in the league IMO.

I won't disagree with him having improved or even that he has been good. But we still got Lucio around despite the team around him being clueless and Sakho is captaining PSG. I sure as fuck would call them up before Koscielny.

 

[sneaky77]

Hasn't falcao been kind of shit this season?

No, he hasnt.