Sounds like a younger version of Evra.
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Sounds like a younger version of Evra.
FootballFan
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lets scrap all this and you get a point for each goal scored
so even if you lose but score you make points.
Football would go insane, fast, the amount of goal scoring opportunities would go through the roof probably as managers would want goals goals goals.
of course, that could also turn into a mess
that would mean Man City playing Wolves on the final day(just an example) They just let eachother score 30 goals. Wolves out of relegation, Man City win epl.
I think best point system is:
Win - 3 points
Draw - 1 point
Loss - 0 Points
fadetoblack
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Do any leagues currently use a system that isn't 3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss?
This is the spirit, Hala Madrid!
I actually feel pretty confident that we will go through to the final. And I'm not nervous about Barca. Wasn't it the last game were we pressured all their 11 men to their own box? That's how we need to play, pressure pressure pressure and go for the win or draw. A loss is not tragic though.
Now I can watch tonight's game without being emotional, I don't care about Chelsea or Barca, I just want us to win the Champions League and beat Bayern.
i think what we have now is fine as well
but yeah obviously it would be open to major abuse
Patrice leaves us exposed even when he is ostensibly playing to his role.
LabouredSubterfuge
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It would be nice if one of our coaches could tell Evra that observing, even when standing in the correct position, is not defending.
I don't think so, it's part of the Laws of the Game now from FIFA.
Actually the article which started this discussion is great: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/feb/05/question-jonathan-wilson-three-points
Re: the current system: I never thought that the team which has a lead is over-incentivized to protect it rather than try and increase it; e.g. when you are 1-0 or 2-1 up, you are more likely to play negative than try and score. So the only incentive that the 3 points pushes teams for is that when the game is tied, it's worth more to try and win it than just defend for a draw.
So... how about a system where:
WIN = 2 points
TIE 1+ = 1 point
TIE 0-0 = 0 points
LOSS = 0 points
Now we'd have a system where a team in the lead is not too worried about a tie, but on the other hand there is no incentive to go and play for a 0-0 at all. Would this affect tactics positively?
Complex issue. I guess what we'd want to have is a system that rewards attacking play and makes it less desirable for a team to try and defend through 90 minutes. In a way the away goal rule is a good example of this: it makes it less interesting for the away team to try and get a 0-0 from the match, even at the risk of conceding. However this is very difficult to factor into a league situation.
Kieran Richardson believes he found God in Sunderland.
I reckon he finds it every night when he gans home to this, meself.
I reckon he finds it every night when he gans home to this, meself.
FootballFan
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WHO DO WE WANT TO WIN GUYS?!
VISCA EL BARCA
Let the magic from inside your body keep glowing Iniesta you pasty mofo <3
VISCA EL BARCA
Let the magic from inside your body keep glowing Iniesta you pasty mofo <3
Broder Salsa
Banned
Bjärsmyr who we have tried to sign several times hasn't gotten paid by Panathinaikos in 3 months now.
This however means we could get him for free soon, as they are forced to let him go. Greek clubs have really been getting a terrible reputation the last few years. Also looking to bring Christian Poulsen home, both he and Copenhagen said that it would "interesting". Woooh, getting ready for that champions league.
Everyone but Barca. Even Pepe and Ronaldo holding the CL trophy would feel nice in comparison.
This however means we could get him for free soon, as they are forced to let him go. Greek clubs have really been getting a terrible reputation the last few years. Also looking to bring Christian Poulsen home, both he and Copenhagen said that it would "interesting". Woooh, getting ready for that champions league.
Everyone but Barca. Even Pepe and Ronaldo holding the CL trophy would feel nice in comparison.
In the article Guardian states it is, I honestly don't have any other info: "Fifa made three points for a win part of its Laws of the Game in 1995, and they were adopted worldwide ahead of the 1995-96 season."
But now for the most important thing for today:
VISCA BARCA! Messi will score twice, one from a penalty after he's made a fool out of John Terry
And of course for those annoyed by Barca (and others as well), be sure to read the great column from Guardian on the subject: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/13/barcelona-bandwagon-barney-ronay
The Guardian said:
<3 BARCA!
FootballFan
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Fair enough, I'm just wondering who most people will be rooting for.
I personally would rather have Terry lift the trophy after scoring the winning goal in the 93rd minute in the final of the CL. Which will start a huge English media frenzy about how Terry will win the Euros for England.
And how he should be a player/coach for the National Team at the 2014 WC.(by that time he will already have 2 CL medals and 2 Balon dOrs).
Rather have that than Pepe Lifting CL.
Beat that
In case it isn't clear, I am kidding.
pslayer666
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Kalou is going to score a hat-trick. I can feel it.
Phoenix Fang
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According to goal.com, Kalou is a target for Liverpool. I thought April Fool's Day is only on the 1st of April?
pslayer666
Member
The guardian is wrong.
I am tested on the LOTG every year and it mentions nothing of the sort.
CHELSEA 3-0 YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
Good plan. Let's do it.
Broder Salsa
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For fucks sake. Panucci has been team leader for Palermo for... like a month. Now Zamparini and him are already having heated arguments. Can't get along with anyone that old shithead.
I'd say Chelsea getting to the UCL final is in Liverpools interest more than them losing the tie
especially getting smashed tonight. That would lead to Di Matteo focusing on the FA Cup
LabouredSubterfuge
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He may not be amazing, but at least he's a 'skilful' winger whose name isn't Stewart Downing. So he'd undoubtedly improve you.
Thanks! Surprising compact, the Laws now that I look at them on the FIFA site.
Regarding tonight's game, I'm mostly worried about Mata because he can exploit the holes in Barca's defense for fast counters. He's the creativity Chelsea has been lacking. My expectation is though that they'll try the Hoddle way of playing like a basketball team: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...ea-can-beat-barca-in-champions-league?cc=5739 how effective will that be will be down to how many chances Barca can finish. I expect at least 10 shots on goal even if Chelsea park the bus.
Yeah, but they'd pay 20m for him.
Yes, its very compact which has its problems. Many of the laws are completely open to referee interpretation which is why you see various decisions in various games and hardly consistency between referees.
i don't want it to become like Rugby with 61 laws or something ridiculous like that and a pass rate of 20% for referee candidates.
That said if you become a rugby referee and pass the exam, you are well on the way to higher honors.
i don't want it to become like Rugby with 61 laws or something ridiculous like that and a pass rate of 20% for referee candidates.
That said if you become a rugby referee and pass the exam, you are well on the way to higher honors.
LabouredSubterfuge
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They... couldn't make that mistake again could they?
Wish football commentary was more like the rugby commentary. Phil Kearns calls out shit decisions all day.
smashing referees doesn't cost you broadcast rights in Rugby
in Football, it will
every commentator should be forced to do a referee course, just the theory. To actually learn the rules......
i am so glad they have finally got over the 'must see daylight' between players with offside they used to go on with. It was NEVER EVER the case and it drove me insane.
Many AR's got slammed in the media for no reason because of that
Good point.
SunhiLegend
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BARCA!!! BEST FOOTBALL IN THE WORLD!
The Real Madrid forum I participate at voted Sami Khedira the best player of our team in the Champions League semi final. At least some DO realize his importance to our game.
Arbeloa, Di Maria and Benzema had a fine game as well.
Some things I didn't understand is, why Di María centrally and Özil at the right in the first half, why didn't he ask Cristiano to track back and why did he sub in Marcelo if he (Mourinho) indeed went for the draw. We had the wrong players in at that point to defend.
I'm still very confident that we are through to the final.
Anyway, today is about Chelsea and FC Barcelona, and I'm gonna watch that.
Arbeloa, Di Maria and Benzema had a fine game as well.
Some things I didn't understand is, why Di María centrally and Özil at the right in the first half, why didn't he ask Cristiano to track back and why did he sub in Marcelo if he (Mourinho) indeed went for the draw. We had the wrong players in at that point to defend.
I'm still very confident that we are through to the final.
Anyway, today is about Chelsea and FC Barcelona, and I'm gonna watch that.
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