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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT2| @agent_89: My sources tell me the season has started

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PaulLFC

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That doesn't work if RM doesn't include a buy option. That's the problem.
Just because they don't include the option to buy doesn't mean we can't try and buy him. If we offer enough and/or they decide he's not needed they may be tempted to sell. Also the loan without option to buy makes perfect sense. If we end up getting top 4 and Sahin has made a significant contribution to that then the move has done its job.
 

Soi-Fong

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Just saw the news of Arsenal and MU agreeing to a deal for RVP. I'm happy, but damn am I worried as fuck for Kagawa's exact position this season.
 
You fools posted such riff raff and Pique and Liverpool players, leaving out Nocerino?

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Dat perfect beard



You know who I miss? Mick McCarthy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OQT1psCoAc

So good.

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he has been replaced with the better.
 

Yen

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Kagawa will be playing CM, not in the hole or out wide. Surely fagie is not stupid enough to play him out wide.
 

Lightning

Banned
At least with RVP gone we can be sure that Podolski is going to play in the middle of the field with Giroud and Cazorla so we should get the best out of Podolski. With Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla I feel we still have a better offence for next season despite the loss of RVP. Its the lack of defensive reinforcements that baffles me.

This Song situation has me fuming. What a freakin ingrate. Sell the asshole, let him rot on Barcelona's bench, bring in M'Vila and we will be a better side for it.
 

Joe

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Nocerino: “Milan is Milan and remains a great club regardless of who plays. Besides, don’t forget last year they paid €3 and a fizzy drink for me, but I scored 11 goals!”

HAHAHAHAHHA :|
 

Soi-Fong

Member
At least with RVP gone we can be sure that Podolski is going to play in the middle of the field with Giroud and Cazorla so we should get the best out of Podolski. With Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla I feel we still have a better offence for next season despite the loss of RVP. Its the lack of defensive reinforcements that baffles me.

This Song situation has me fuming. What a freakin ingrate. Sell the asshole, let him rot on Barcelona's bench, bring in M'Vila and we will be a better side for it.

Yup, Song is gonna garner a lot of haters if he defects to Barcelona especially seeing his 3 year contract still as well as reports of acting like the way he did.
 

Carbonox

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Sigh, if only Pardew had the balls to play my dream formation:

---------------------Krul--------------------
Debuchy - S.Taylor - Coloccini - Santon
----------Tiote-------------Anita-----------
-------------------Cabaye------------------
Ben Arfa---------Cisse---------Marveaux

Drop Gutierrez and Ba.

#442doesntwork
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
It may not be the most popular opinion amongst Juve fans, but I think we need someone like JoJo a lot more than we need a clinical finisher. A 'Matri 2.0' like Llorente (that's how I see him at least, I may be wrong) would obviously be a very welcome upgrade, but with someone like JoJo, who can score, link up with our midfielders and pull pure magic out of the hat ... I forsee amazingness. What's more, he would have a great partner in Vucinic. God, what I would give. Won't happen. 30M€ is way too much for us right now and Conte probably sees it somewhat differently. Fuck calciomercato, why do I care so much? :/

I like the unpredictability of players like Jojo, and he's harder to mark than Llorente and Dzeko I imagine.

But maybe Llorene was a bad example because I can't think of anyone who can out-muscle him or beat him in the air? :p

And Jojo helped Amauri score ffs.
 

Zabojnik

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But maybe Llorene was a bad example because I can't think of anyone who can out-muscle him or beat him in the air? :p

Zapata and Mexes can do it no problem, if they combine their forces with Muntari's goal.

Speaking of Llorente, Marca are suggesting Arsenal will try to snatch him using RVP's money, they'd supposedly offer 25M€. Fine, whatever, let's just get it over with. I'm ready for Pazzini.
 

Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Zapata and Mexes can do it no problem, if they combine their forces with Muntari's goal.

Speaking of Llorente, Marca are suggesting Arsenal will try to snatch him using RVP's money, they'd supposedly offer 25M€. Fine, whatever, let's just get it over with. I'm ready for Pazzini.

Can we fire Marotta next season please? Or promote Paratici or something.
 

bjaelke

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Asked if Allen would come into his thinking for Saturday, Rodgers told Liverpoolfc.com: "Yes.

Maybe I'll have to cave in and change my ff team.
We're still having trouble getting rid of one of our highest earners, Joe Cole. I don't think we'll be able to get rid this summer transfer window.

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Carbonox

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How is Joe Cole doing in the pre-season?

I'm also baffled how many bookies are favouring Newcastle to beat Spurs this weekend. I just don't see it. Sure, no good strikers and no Modric/King will be detrimental, but they still have Van Der Vaart, Bale, Sigurdsson, Lennon, etc. to do some serious damage. They will destroy us in midfield if Tiote and Cabaye aren't playing.
 

dc89

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A set of photo's from the final day of last season has gone on display at the National Football Museum.

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I wonder why the photographer took this photo?

I went to the museum when it was at Deepdale, it was ok actually.
 

Carbonox

Member
Looks like Coloccini wasn't used in the Argentina game yesterday. That works in our favour massively. Shane Ferguson scored for Northern Ireland though. I hope we see more of him this coming season. Great prospect and an LB too.

I also hope we can see more of Tavernier. He has potential as well. A future England RB in my eyes.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
How is Joe Cole doing in the pre-season?

I'm also baffled how many bookies are favouring Newcastle to beat Spurs this weekend. I just don't see it. Sure, no good strikers and no Modric/King will be detrimental, but they still have Van Der Vaart, Bale, Sigurdsson, Lennon, etc. to do some serious damage. They will destroy us in midfield if Tiote and Cabaye aren't playing.

While Defoe isn't an ideal option, Bale and Rafa/Gylfi will offer plenty of goal threat as well. The big concern for me will be central midfield. A massive problem in pre-season was a lack of screening in front of the back 4, if Sandro plays then I'm not concerned, but knowing AVB, he'd rather play a lump of shite like Jenas who has had a full pre-season rather than a player who doesn't know the new system. I hope I'm wrong. If we can put out:

Friedel
Walker Kaboul Dawson BAE
Lennon Huddlestone Sandro Bale
VDV/Sigurdsson
Defoe

I think we'll be OK. But I really doubt that's the CM pairing we are going to use.
 

dc89

Member
"I'm returning feeling renewed," said Tevez. "I'm really up for having a great season. I'm better now and only thinking about playing football.

"I feel useful and valued and that is fundamental for me. It's been a long time since I've scored a goal like that (against Chelsea), like the ones I used to score when I was at Boca, and this speaks of the confidence I have."

http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-city/7995469/Tevez-hoping-for-great-season

Carlitos will be like a new signing after him missing September - March(?).
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
BBC Sport's David Ornstein has been tweeting some more details about the van Persie transfer: "RvP move not motivated by money. On a far better deal at Arsenal than people knew & could have earned more elsewhere than he'll get at Man Utd. Arsenal not currently in market for RvP replacement, they feel attacking business is done. Possible move for right-back/defensive cover." You can follow David on Twitter.

It will be fascinating to see how well Arsenal's new look attack gets on. They need to hit the ground running because that defense is still flimsy as hell.
 
All well and good so far, but this is by no means the whole story at Arsenal, as their profits have been very reliant on property development and player sales. In these interims, there was little impact from property development, but without the £63 million profit on player sales, the football club would actually have made a sizeable loss of £14 million, including an operating loss of £7 million.

In the annual results for 2011, property played a larger role, providing the vast majority (£13 million) of the total £15 million profit with only £2 million coming from the football business. Furthermore, if the £6.3 million made from player sales is excluded, the club made a £4 million loss in the football segment. Even the enormous £56 million 2010 profit would only have been £7 million without £11 million property gains and £38 million player sales.

This is concerning, as property gains will come to an end at some stage, while Arsenal would not wish to be seen as a selling club, even though this has been a major reason for their recent profits, e.g. £94 million (or over 60%) of the £153 million made in the last four years. That’s good business, but it makes it hard to build a winning team.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/arsenals-mystery-dance.html?m=1
 

GorillaJu

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How is Joe Cole doing in the pre-season?

I'm also baffled how many bookies are favouring Newcastle to beat Spurs this weekend. I just don't see it. Sure, no good strikers and no Modric/King will be detrimental, but they still have Van Der Vaart, Bale, Sigurdsson, Lennon, etc. to do some serious damage. They will destroy us in midfield if Tiote and Cabaye aren't playing.

Sports Direct Arena is a difficult ground to play at and Newcastle performed admirably last season against all the big teams. It's not going to be a walk in the park for Spurs.
 

K1LLER7

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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger tells French TV station TF1 he was left with "no choice" but to sell van Persie to Manchester United: "He is at Manchester United, unfortunately for us. The transfer was finalised in the afternoon. It's never great to lose players of that quality but he only had a year contract."
 
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger tells French TV station TF1 he was left with "no choice" but to sell van Persie to Manchester United: "He is at Manchester United, unfortunately for us. The transfer was finalised in the afternoon. It's never great to lose players of that quality but he only had a year contract."

He also said in the same interview that Podolski and Giroud were brought in to replace him. Just a week ago, he said the opposite. He talks so much BS, you're more likely to get accurate information about the inside of the club from Alex Ferguson
 

Kyoufu

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How is Joe Cole doing in the pre-season?

I'm also baffled how many bookies are favouring Newcastle to beat Spurs this weekend. I just don't see it. Sure, no good strikers and no Modric/King will be detrimental, but they still have Van Der Vaart, Bale, Sigurdsson, Lennon, etc. to do some serious damage. They will destroy us in midfield if Tiote and Cabaye aren't playing.

Tiote and Cabaye are playing though.
 
All well and good so far, but this is by no means the whole story at Arsenal, as their profits have been very reliant on property development and player sales. In these interims, there was little impact from property development, but without the £63 million profit on player sales, the football club would actually have made a sizeable loss of £14 million, including an operating loss of £7 million.

In the annual results for 2011, property played a larger role, providing the vast majority (£13 million) of the total £15 million profit with only £2 million coming from the football business. Furthermore, if the £6.3 million made from player sales is excluded, the club made a £4 million loss in the football segment. Even the enormous £56 million 2010 profit would only have been £7 million without £11 million property gains and £38 million player sales.

This is concerning, as property gains will come to an end at some stage, while Arsenal would not wish to be seen as a selling club, even though this has been a major reason for their recent profits, e.g. £94 million (or over 60%) of the £153 million made in the last four years. That’s good business, but it makes it hard to build a winning team.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/arsenals-mystery-dance.html?m=1

Song shares the same agent as Sagna, by the way


At the end of the day, players sharing the same agent or any particular agent is not relevant IMO. If the player wants to move they will move baring an incompetent agent, the agent will only smooth the way and get him the best deal possible. Only really relevant if they can get you a better deal elsewhere and are approaching the player with offers to add an extra £2m a year which they ought to be doing anyway as a good agent.

Arsenal has run the football side of the business on a break even basis for a long time if you take out transfers we would just be breaking even. Which is why it is so very suprising to hear about all the money we have available for transfers from everyone. Its like no one looks at the books they just assume Top 4, champions league = money. my guess is they are hoping to hold out and renegotiate some key contracts in 2014.

Criticism of L'Arse: The squad is too big and wages are too high, if they want to make soem money they have to be more selective with who they buy and what size squad they want to maintain. They have the fourth highest wage bill in the PL but their wage costs are about 80% higher than Tottenham Hotspur.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
Out of interest, who has been on set pieces in pre-season? That's an embarrassment of riches in that department.

VDV takes them whenever he's on the pitch, despite being utter crap at them. When he was injured, Sigurdsson and Bale took them and we scored a few. Hopefully AVB gets a bit tougher on VDV, he needs to improve his set plays if he wants to take them.
 
Even though the Dutch lost vs Belgium last night, I'm quite happy with the way Van Gaal wants the team to play, and the execution was pretty good as well.

Finally a lefty on the left wing and a ''righty'' on the right wing, going for the crosspass mainly. And the team tried to pressure early, which resulted in loss of the ball from Belgium quite a few times.

Also loved the way Viergever and De Vrij played like typical Dutch central defenders, going into midfield whenever there was an opportunity.

Shame that we have overrated defenders like Mathijsen, or overrated midfielders like Nigel de Jong though.

Van Gaal gave in. The whole country was screaming "a lefty on the left wing and a ''righty'' on the right wing" during the EC. A good Robben on the right wing is deadly, and van Gaal knows that better than anyone.

As for the match, I'm cautiously optimistic about our defence.

But I have to say, Belgium have an amazing team.
 

3Sixty

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louis saha ‏@louissaha08
I'm on my way to discuss with Sunderland

Hmmm, can we get an ITK agent to confirm. Not sure of this guys credibility.








:)
 

3Sixty

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Sevgi Neptune™ ‏@iTsMarvel_Twizz
Jeeeeez, My Cousin Just Got Signed To Southampton From Blackpool For £6 Million, So Happy For Him.

Ok, this is a new one for me.

Fucking twitter.
 

pulga

Banned
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This beautiful man-beast is #1 and you damn better recognize.

and, might I add, lololololol at the RVP defection.
 
Frickin Arsenal- this is getting real old. I complain about a lot of my squads, but none disappoint me as much as these guys

However, this got a chuckle out of me from the Balotelli parody twitter account

Robin Van Persie has failed a medical at Manchester United. He has a severely damaged back after carrying a full squad last season.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
I think VDV's more of a free kick specialist than Gylfi.

He might like to think so but he has never scored a free kick in a competitive game for us and wastes shitloads of corners. Gylfi is miles better at them.
 
If I was an arsenal fan id be furious right now. There's basically an exodus going on. You've signed some decent players but tbh they're not exactly surrounded by the same quality as other top teams in the league.

Defense is still shocking too.

Wenger has clearly lost it. Should have gone a few years back IMO. I can't see arsenal going anywhere this season.
 
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