LabouredSubterfuge
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Yes I thought they put paid to that whole concept when they walked the league together. Even last year they were very productive when both were fit and playing.
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Yes I thought they put paid to that whole concept when they walked the league together. Even last year they were very productive when both were fit and playing.
Vivalaraza
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I don't know if it would work in the 352 and for the team, but when they have played together they've tended to connect and link up well.
Certainly nothing which suggests it would be a disaster anyway.
bu bu twitter told me they only passed to each other 3 times in a half once
I meant in terms of team cohesion, we already know how Rooney's stats juke fucking everything
I'd love to see Welbz get a run up front
LVG pls
pulga
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75% of AS' readers voted for Di Maria ahead of James to start today.
Flo, you done fucked up.
The Dutch connection goes a long way, think I've even seen pictures of their wives together.
He's still a cunt all of the times.
Yeah.
figadapaura
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Yes.
flabberghastly
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It'll be a fight, until about mid-season, when we start regularly dropping points to, e.g., Chievo, Palermo, and Sassuolo.
This has been such a terrible summer for us. I don't know what ADL, Bigon, and Benitez have been doing.
I really wished Vargas would see a rise in fortunes under Benitez, but - alas - it wasn't meant to be. I'll just sit through another season of watching Pandev flounder (thankfully, one more slot down on the roster, now that Michu has joined).
Good luck to Vargas at QPR.
KidA Seven
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You could say the same of your evaluation of United's players considering you have admitted Fergie got the best out of them.
Broder Salsa
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I'm sorry Dean but it had to be done
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126099449&postcount=368
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126099449&postcount=368
Vivalaraza
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You said Welbeck is better for either than they are for one another.
Now you might be right, Welbeck has played with both and done well in spells and so has the partner (RVP and Rooney).
But when they both play together they score goals and we win more. No real evidence to back that claim up. Fair enough if that's your opinion.
The point on Rooney has nothing to do with his partnerships. That's a Rooney issue. We saw it on Saturday.
this is mostly on ADL isn't it? Sounds like Rafa is actually requesting reinforcements
you'll be fiiiine, Rossi and Gomez will tear an ACL again by the end of October and you won't even have to worry about them
or us
tarzanpuyol
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Jimenez is a good player, he has been a starter for America for the past 2 seasons. 2 years ago when Mexico won the Olimpics, Jimenez was included instead of Pulido (same player now without a team and in a legal battle with Tigres), Jimenez has the potential, is a tall player but its good with his feet, he is closer to a Costa like player than Madzukic. But at Atleti he will be bench, up front Mandzukic has to fail miserably for Simeone to go with Jimenez for the first option, and on the wing Koke, Griezman, Garcia, Turan are all better on the wing and all of them help with marking. He has the potential, but European football is in another level than the mexican league.
Please don't make fun of Dean
KidA Seven
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That was true under Fergie, especially before Rooney fell out with Fergie. Not so much under Moyes. Last season there were a lot of times where RVP barely had a touch on the ball, and none came from Rooney.
tarzanpuyol
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he has been the best RM for a while, without him Carletto's 4-3-3 doesnt work. It wasnt until Di Maria was moved to accompany Modric-Alonso in the middle that Real got their pieces together. Great player.
I think what he's talking about is set pieces inflating Rooney's stats, so that it looks like the relationship on the pitch is better than what it is.
Yeah, fair enough. Maybe my subliminal hatred of Waz is overlooking cold hard logic
edit: Salva, just Rooney in general :lol. Gets loads of goals and assists but plays poorly, sometimes to the detriment of the team. So... he's an odd one
Rooney and RVP can carry the team when they're both fit and firing. They don't even need much service, the technique between the two of them ensures that there will always be at least a handful or golden chances.
They aren't always super exciting to watch but if theure both playing United will score goals.
They aren't always super exciting to watch but if theure both playing United will score goals.
Freewheelin'
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It felt like they were rarely both fit at the same time under Moyes.
brokenbeans
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I'm fine with Rojo joining.
We are currently not a CL club what can we expect?
Still should of signed Garay before the WC.
We are currently not a CL club what can we expect?
Still should of signed Garay before the WC.
figadapaura
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KidA Seven
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WAR recon zero
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Smoke. Gazetta has Falcao for Juve
tarzanpuyol
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Rojo is a good LB, there arent many of those available nowadays. Price is inflated but so its everyone elses.
overdrivex
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ONLY 52.99 percent of AS readers wanted Keylor Navas to start over Iker.
Vivalaraza
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Yes. But obviously we have to allow 1) for Moyes and the state of the team and 2) they assisted one another more last year than they actually did in RVP's first year.
I'm not saying it's good for the team or that the connection is a instinctive one or anything like that. But it's been tried and it's worked.
I don't think that's what he meant but even if he did - Rooney has assisted RVP from a set piece just once since RVP joined the club as far as I am aware.
Edit - Checked and it's 2 goals that Rooney has assisted via set piece for him.
figadapaura
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The fact he can play LB and CB makes him perfect for a back 3. I think it'll be a great signing.
That's fantastic. Dean, you hold the controller at a weird angle. Where is the TV in relation to your bed? I have to be like 3 or 4 feet away from the screen, otherwise I fucking hate it.
I'm sure he was tired of the owners seemingly pocketing all the money they get rather than putting it into the team. Juve are cheap to the point of parody.
Lost Barry on a free. JM7 is hesitant over signing a new deal. Garcia has been sold. Rodwell has been sold.
I'm glad we got another CM.
tarzanpuyol
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I wouldnt trust him as a CB.
Even then RVP barely looked match fit. Same at the WC despite his good
I worry that he'll struggle to get back anywhere near his 2011-13 level.
we can't even sign Nani
tarzanpuyol
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still cant believe garay was sold for 7m and Vermaelen was 18m......
Zubizarreta is like Txiki 2.0
Zubizarreta is like Txiki 2.0
figadapaura
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Didn't he do well there last season?
pulga
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Agreed, Di Maria brings a special spark to the mid that no one else in the team has.
flabberghastly
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Well, sure, Rafa has been requesting reinforcements, but he's also spent the summer in constant contact with Fellaini. I was wary when he wanted to replace Cavani with Higuain last summer, but now I'm just destitute.
The only positive I can think of is that ADL is saving the money for a massive renovation to the San Paolo. But for that to happen, we'd need him and the city council to work together for more than 2 1/2 days each year.
As is, if Rossi and Gomez tear their ACLs, Totti has a stroke on opening day, and your entire midfield decides to force through transfers in the next week, we may just have a chance to finish above fourth.
thehypocrite
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That makes sense, Jiménez is a contingency to Madzukic with potential to develop in a good alternative with time. I hope he does, la liga is better with Atlético doing good and threatening the big 2, I wish more teams were able to take the next step, but I don't see it happening. That TV deal needs to be reshaped for the betterment of the competitiveness.
Maybe. Di Maria is a great complement for Bale and Ronaldo speed, but I think James can be a good player for us once he's adjusted to our midfield and creating chances trough ball play, where Di Maria isn't as effective.
It's kind of unfair to judge this now. Di Maria plays on automatic with the team as he's completely adjusted but James isn't and that requires time.
Freewheelin'
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hahaha, I was cold that night! Also the TV is about 3 or 4 feet away from where I'm sitting yeah.
tarzanpuyol
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the few games I saw, he wasnt solid.
that won't be necessary, Allegri will injure half of them soon enough.
and by them I mean the whole squad
flabberghastly
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Woodward's incompetence is doing you a favor there.
tarzanpuyol
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Di Maria is the most complete player right now, attacks, defends, compliments, works a lot, opens the field, has amazing definition, very rarely looses his temper, ambidextrous; plays in every position in the mid except anchor man. But he has one thing against him, he was a Mourihno signing.
brokenbeans
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Yep I'm sure that's what LVG has seen.
Vivalaraza
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Rojo is like the third choice centre back.
Don't be so sure.
Don't be so sure.
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