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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT3| Got to be a top 5 worst thread title we've ever had.
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cartoon_soldier
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On a more serious note: i took a look at your defence will thinking about my FPL team for next week and all I have to say is WHAT THE FUCK am I seeing? that defence is not much better than the midfield.
Blackett shows some potential.
Can't judge Keane yet.
Smalling could work as a reserve.
Evans is ok.
Jones can be good but sometimes his face says it all.
Rafael can be good when he deosn't get brain farts or when he breaks.
Rojo and Shaw, can't judge yet.
Varela, lol.
And here I was, complaining about Johnson and Toure.
Steverulez
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United need 5 players IMO: 2 CBS, a rb and two midfielders.
Thing is, even with these players they will still have fuck all quality depth as well
Fergie really did a number on the united team in his latter years
Thing is, even with these players they will still have fuck all quality depth as well
Fergie really did a number on the united team in his latter years
Da DreadLord
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If we indeed had 5 new players (who are of some class and experience), then we should be fine dept wise as well. The people playing now would be decent as backup as long as only 1 or 2 of them have to play due to injuries and what not. The rest of the team would cope with it. The problem right now is all those backup players are first choice and as such the team cant cope.
PrematureQuiche
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kind of hope this Destro deal goes through cause we need another striker. His agent saying Milan and Chelsea are interested. The papers are saying Spurs are also interested. Please Torres join Roma on loan!
Shanks D Zoro
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Just watched Malaga vs Bilbao highlights. Joke decision by the ref. Perfectly good headed goal by the Bilbao keeper in the 96th minute and the ref waited until the ball was in the back before whistling. Was perfectly good goal.
cartoon_soldier
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Evans is the only decent-good CB we have, only one who should be starting for MU.
Although Jones has been half decent these two games, but he is prone to too many errors and is not good enough for MU.
Rafael was the best RB in the league couple of seasons back and he can get at the level again with a good winger in front of him.
Smalling sucks.
Blackett has been decent, but at fault for Swansea's 2nd goal.
We ideally need 2 new CBs, one like Vidic.
Vivalaraza
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If we got all of those we'd be fine for depth, assuming they were good buys. CB back up would basically be Jones, Evans and Smalling which isn't great but it's not terrible.
If we signed Strootman and De Jong, then paired with Carrick and Herrera that's not terrible for CM.
Really it just depends on getting the right players. We signed Rojo and Fellaini for like £50m and neither are up to it. I think Rojo will suck.
cartoon_soldier
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Henderson didn't come through Liverpool unlike Keane brothers.
Zaha and Powell's problems are their work ethics. They have NONE.
Steverulez
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Imagine how annoyed cole will be
Destro would be interesting although I doubt we are going to sign anyone this week. Cech and Torres out maybe, if Torres won't go then perhaps they'll finally shift mikel.
We need to get rid of two players for CL quota I think I read recently. I wouldn't be surprised if we went for Welbeck but I doubt united would deal, remy would be the other player we might go for but we tried in 2012 and he failed his medical so we cancelled it. We can't really afford to sign any other foreign players so I think we might go for someone English.
I was thinking about Connor wick ham who has 1 year left on his Sunderland deal
cartoon_soldier
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Quite the opposite, I think Rojo will be fine, paired at the back with Evans.
Of course prefer two completely different CBs like Benatia and Godin
Rogers has developed Henderson and Stirling into the players they are today. He took two lads, and completely transformed them into potential world beaters.
United could have done the same with Zaha and Powel, but they botched it.
cartoon_soldier
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Zaha and Powell are spoiled brats unlike Sterling and Hendo. And nowhere near as good either.
You can only develop players who want to work towards it. Not someone who doesn't show up to training because it was optional.
Shanks D Zoro
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I really don't see Roma selling anyone. They don't have too and everyone seems to enjoy playing for Garcia. Their American owner also comes from a culture of owner power so I don't see him caving in if a player demands to move.
cartoon_soldier
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Why MU spend is still shit comparatively:
Imagine what we could be at MCFC spending levels.
Imagine what we could be at MCFC spending levels.
Vivalaraza
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Nonsense.
First off you have to have the talent. Sterling has been recognised as one of England's most talented players for a while if you followed football at the youth levels in England. He had his debut under Dalglish at 17. That potential hasn't come from nowhere.
Rodgers has obv done a great job with them, and others. But remember Rodgers was looking to sell Henderson last summer.
United's problems are complex. Part of it is the clubs fault, the players and also just circumstance. 3 managers in a 24 month period all with different plans and ideas is not good for player development.
cartoon_soldier
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Again I'd say that's Uniteds fault for not using proper discipline when dealing with the young lads. Discipline again being instrumental in development.
they don't have to, but they'll bite your hand off as soon as you show them the money
So Chelsea
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I can't hear ya
and he's wearing some Roma shorts how perfect is that
PrematureQuiche
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Imagine how annoyed cole will be
Destro would be interesting although I doubt we are going to sign anyone this week. Cech and Torres out maybe, if Torres won't go then perhaps they'll finally shift mikel.
We need to get rid of two players for CL quota I think I read recently. I wouldn't be surprised if we went for Welbeck but I doubt united would deal, remy would be the other player we might go for but we tried in 2012 and he failed his medical so we cancelled it. We can't really afford to sign any other foreign players so I think we might go for someone English.
I was thinking about Connor wick ham who has 1 year left on his Sunderland deal
I thought with Romeu gone we were fine but I was wrong. I assume two out for one in. If we were going to use an English striker we would use Bamford surely!
cartoon_soldier
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One area United do have a big problem I think is our scouting system.
It looks like we are still stuck in 2004 or something. Can't find anybody worth a damn.
It looks like we are still stuck in 2004 or something. Can't find anybody worth a damn.
Nicktendo86
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I honestly believe that at some point around 2008 he actually went senile or otherwise insane.
Vivalaraza
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This is also silly.
It's a two way street but if for instance your player is a drunk, you can't just expect the club to solve that.
Shanks D Zoro
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loving the BeIN sports highlights show. All the goals across europe in one place.
Fucking hell Robben looks in scary form already, but that Wolfsburg miss might be the greatest miss ever.
In past years yes, but now they have a new kit deal and CL football. I expect this side to stay together for at least the next season.
Fucking hell Robben looks in scary form already, but that Wolfsburg miss might be the greatest miss ever.
they don't have to, but they'll bite your hand off as soon as you show them the money
So Chelsea
In past years yes, but now they have a new kit deal and CL football. I expect this side to stay together for at least the next season.
Ive watched Powell during his days at Crewe, the guy was awesome. Zaha at Palace was the same. They go to United and fail.
I agree about Uniteds problems, it's just a shame it's the young players who will suffer the most.
Shanks D Zoro
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fucking hell. for comparison sake, Swansea had the most passes for a goal the previous two seasons with around 25 passes in seasons. 48 is crazy. Didn't Barca have something like that against Liverpool in the CL once?
Roma's American owner was interviewed like a couple of days ago and he was like "Football is a business we'll consider all offers xoxo"
they'll sell anyone at anytime, that's their project.
Destro and Benatia are as good as gone.
I havent seen De Jong play much, to those who have if you were ranking him in a tier of PL Dm's, how would he compare to other DM's in the league? He doesnt sound tier 1 (top 4 team) but probably comfortably tier 2.
FootballFan
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I'm in new Zealand lol.
Not really.
Do you think that would have happened under Fergusons rule? I don't, the players dare not step out of line.
Shanks D Zoro
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of course if someone offers crazy money. but the amount being thrown around for Benatia is pathetic, and as you said Destro is their only striker.
Borriello is dead
Gareth Bale
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It's not as impressive when you notice that we near enough gave them the ball towards the end.
Vivalaraza
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Yes because it's happened with numerous other players before, whilst Ferguson was manager.
you have a very romantic idea about Roma, they'll never be that club. They'll just take the highest offer (Bayern's 26m) for Benatia before this window shuts.
The PL currently has a bit of a dearth of proper DMs, since neither Liverpool nor Arsenal play with one. If Chelsea hadn't signed Matic then City would be the only club with a top DM in Fernandinho - though I would say a good argument could also be made for Schneiderlin.
De Jong likely compares quite well really - he's probably at least on the level of a Barry or Tiote.
Vivalaraza
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De Jong is on the stairwell between tier 1 and tier 2. But he's going downwards.
Shanks D Zoro
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not Roma, I like to think the whole of Serie A can withstand the might of the rest of Europe. So far Serie A hasn't really lost anyone not worthy. Plus if Benatia goes for that much then there are a lot of clubs around Europe, especially Barca, who have to have a long look at themselves.
All they want really is 30 million, and he's easily worth double that amount in today's market. I don't get why no one is after him :lol
Yeah United, 30 million.
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"If he's cheaper than Luke Shaw he can't be great." - No one
Shanks D Zoro
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All they want really is 30 million, and he's easily worth double that amount in today's market. I don't get why no one is after him :lol
Yeah United, 30 million.
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No one watches Serie A or Morocco
Anyone think we are going to field our best team against MK Dons? Wouldnt surprise me, firstly we dont have shit for depth and secondly every game is important for confidence and learning the system. Maybe shift in Wilson and start Adnan.
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