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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT4| Did you see that Ludogorets display last night?
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Broder Salsa
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I almost wish he would leave. Deserves to be playing as the first team keeper for a good club, although if he's happy fighting for the spot playing cup matches and such for a year or just until January I guess that will be cool too.
It frustrates me to no end. I'm no United fan, but think how much better they could of been as a team even when they last won the PL if they actually did these basics properly!
No pass & move and players fucking staring at their feet when in possession (something you're supposed to unlearn in like 5th grade).
I don't even think they need Di Maria.
Saw glimpses of it in pre-season.
figadapaura
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Go_Ly_Dow
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got bacon on standby for breakfast
conference starts at 7am UK time so just over 8 hours remaining
I don't have any hopes for Falcao, I just hope if we are going for him and we cock it up we do have a good backup plan in place. We can't do what we did last season when we missed out on Ba with Giroud out and Bendtner gone.
@dmf180593: #MUFC have pulled out. Almost certainly. Only leaves Arsenal. What a signing for them.
Disagree Guy
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Real Madrid need a keeper
Could get 10mil out of him really.....
Why am I not an agent?
Steverulez
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He'll go until January I think, Courtois will sign a new deal after the window shuts and then Cech will move to PSG or something, perhaps we will get a midfielder back too.
I still think Ruddy is the long-term intention to be our number 2 behind Courtois, makes a lot of sense for quotas having an english back-up
Broder Salsa
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Madrid already bought one keeper and as you know, Casillas much like Rooney seems to actually be bigger than the club.
How many of you would move to a company you'd consider as a step down and take a pay cut in the process?
Think we can get a bit hypocritical when talking about footballers. They're humans. These are jobs. Cleverley doesn't strike me as the philosophical type. He isn't thinking about this holistically and we shouldn't expect that from him.
Think we can get a bit hypocritical when talking about footballers. They're humans. These are jobs. Cleverley doesn't strike me as the philosophical type. He isn't thinking about this holistically and we shouldn't expect that from him.
What are you thinking - where would he go?
FootballFan
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Mes que un club
figadapaura
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But he's asking for 2x his current wage.
I don't think the door is closed on him being our first choice GK, but it's going to be tough. I personally don't see him going, as he seems like someone who will fight for his place.
If the worst happens, he will probably be off to France.
Woop!
There's a difference when it's between 30 and 40k a year, and 30 and 40k a week.
As well as the fact that Cleverley won't be 'working' much if he does stay. Clearly not a first choice. You think he'd want to go play.
Vivalaraza
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We don't know if he's being given a pay cut though, just that he's asking for his salary to be doubled.
I agree anyhow, and as I pointed out before there will be other reasons.
Steverulez
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But on the other hand, if all you had to do was sit around all day and do nothing at this prestigious company, wouldn't that be shit? Especially as footballers only have a certain amount of shelf-life physically.
Plus the wages we're discussing are still ridiculous, he won't notice it in his bank balance unless he's a moron with it and who knows, he might even get back in the England team too.
If I were him i'd have gone to Valencia personally, if I thought I could handle moving countries.
I think both Carvalho and Falcao are paper talk fed by agents.
It's just plain shit that Arsenal, with a huge scouting network, have had months to sort this out (if not longer) and have came up with jack shit.
The excuses don't fly.
I hope this isn't true, but it's leaning towards it.
We're looking to get in Strootman in January.
Milchmonster
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Beautiful
Also:
Welcome back bro! So happy! #morethanfriends
More than friends?
And:
Shinji on BVB.de:
"I already said in an interview on the evening of my departure that the chapter Borussia Dortmund isn't finished for me. I wanted to fullfill a dream of mine in the Premier League. Now I'm just happy to be back in Dortmund. With this great team, this incredible environment, these unique fans. BVB is like a family. I'm proud that I haven't been forgotten and am allowed to be part of it again."
It's okay, Shinji-babe <3
LabouredSubterfuge
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Think it's more a case of does he think he'll get offered more now or in a year's time when he leaves on a free and has been sitting in the reserves/bench all year.
Steverulez
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Quick question Liverpool fans (as I've seen something pop up on my twitter timeline) would you rather have had Remy or Balotelli?
Disagree Guy
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Arsene Wenger does this every single year..... It's a shame really
I bet you sign someone big in January though, just one.
tbf, he will probably get a good amount of game time if your injury crisis continues.
figadapaura
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Idk we could play him in DM instead of Blind, which frees Blind up to play LWB/LB until Shaw is fit and we won't have to fucking play Young there. Then hopefully we'll have a good rotation of decent midfielders so Fletcher doesn't have to play and since Carrick won't be back for a while.
Oh well.
Disagree Guy
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Balotelli every single day of the week.
Better player, younger, full international, hilarious bantz
Beautiful
Also:
Welcome back bro! So happy! #morethanfriends
More than friends?
And:
Shinji on BVB.de:
"I already said in an interview on the evening of my departure that the chapter Borussia Dortmund isn't finished for me. I wanted to fullfill a dream of mine in the Premier League. Now I'm just happy to be back in Dortmund. With this great team, this incredible environment, these unique fans. BVB is like a family. I'm proud that I haven't been forgotten and am allowed to be part of it again."
It's okay, Shinji-babe <3
Its ok. Shinji is not cutout to be an EPL player.
Can we have Reus so that he can fulfil his dream and send him back in a few years. We will give you Rooney in exchange.
I figured Carrick's back a few weeks after the break, shaw is back after the break, and so blind can play DM.
He's a footballer. He should be wanting to play football
I know it's still their job but it's hard to apply "normal" thinking when you are talking about a vast amount of money and a vast amount of money + 10 grand a week.
Splitting hairs relatively when his first thought should be doing his job at all...playing football
I know it's still their job but it's hard to apply "normal" thinking when you are talking about a vast amount of money and a vast amount of money + 10 grand a week.
Splitting hairs relatively when his first thought should be doing his job at all...playing football
figadapaura
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Vivalaraza
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He's going to leave the club tmrw. Van Gaal has told him he is not part of the plans.
It's just a matter of whether he goes on loan or on a transfer. Cleverley has some power to exert in this situation and this is him exerting it. He obviously isn't crazy about going to Villa or he'd be there already.
It's just a matter of whether he goes on loan or on a transfer. Cleverley has some power to exert in this situation and this is him exerting it. He obviously isn't crazy about going to Villa or he'd be there already.
Disagree Guy
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I'm still not convinced. Injuries could really fuck us.
They already are lol
Perhaps he feels that such an increase would offset the professional regression that is a move from Manchester United to Aston Villa.
I don't agree with the first point.
Money is money and human's crave it more than anything. Cleverley is securing his living for the next four years and he wants to live a certain lifestyle, just like we would when negotiating a contract.
Secondly I'm sure Cleverley believes he can make an impact in the United first team; you've only got about two midfielders and he's been part of a successful squad in the recent past.
Glad you agree.
And I hope you see why he'd want a wage increase, too.
See above, I think I've addressed these points.
Essentially I disagree. We can't expect footballers to live within our financial reference frame. Not can we expect them to see their own professional worth as us punters do.
Cleverley isn't sat around, as a United fan, dreading the next time he's selected.
Milchmonster
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No offense but I don't think many young German players dream of playing for Manchester United.
Sure, you're a big club but I have the impression that United (or any English club) isn't as popular here as it is in Japan for example. It's either Bayern if they want to stay in Germany or Real/Barca. I'd say Arsenal is probably the most popular PL club here.
With he few games we play this year we really should be able to maintain a week in week out first team with minimal rotation, this means if we can get a first team playing well a run of good results is not out of the question, second half of the season could be really good for us, if we are not too far off the pace.
Disagree Guy
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Man united have never signed a German. Just to put that out there lol
figadapaura
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At least not a senior, alot of young talents though.
We should let one of Roo, RVP and Mata go. Preferably Rooney but that not going to happen and selling one of them will also hamper the morale around the club.I'm still not convinced. Injuries could really fuck us.
Seliing Rooney and getting De Jong will be the best business we do.
Vivalaraza
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