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Football Thread |OT22| His true nature avoided

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kharma45

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This makes no sense at all.

If Suarez is worth £50 million to Liverpool then an initial bid of £22 million for a £25 million player is derisory?

Good place to start negotiations, stop moaning, nobody's coming in with a £27 million straight away.

If you think that you're fooling yourself.

#bringronniehome

I was questioning your viewpoint of Rooney only being worth at best half of what Suarez is worth. I don't expect Arsenal to bid big money on him and I don't expect us to sell him in that case.

Think you're wrong here.

Don't think there's a chance we sell him to either Arsenal or Chelsea for £25m.

Agreed. A team from abroad maybe (would still expect a bit more), from a team in the league not a chance.
 

kharma45

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Is Rooney your main striker?

No. RVP is.

When did Rooney last look like a world class player?

Not since the 11/12 season.

Does Rooney have well publicised fitness issues?

Yes.

So only the season before last then? If he stayed at United this year and had another poor season I'd consider him off it, everyone can have a bad year. I'd say too it's more motivation to be fit.

Back on his value again as well, it's not as if Torres was setting the world alight at Liverpool in the season that he left for Chelsea in that huge money deal.
 
Is Rooney your main striker?

No. RVP is.

When did Rooney last look like a world class player?

Not since the 11/12 season.

Does Rooney have well publicised fitness issues?

Yes.
I don't think that will be the basis on which we're going to be working out his transfer value.

£25m to PSG, yes fine.

Selling him to Chelsea would mean adding on the risk of him going to Chelsea and scoring 25 goals for them in the PL next season, which he did 12 months ago for us.

If you think we'd sell him for the same price to Chelsea as we would to PSG...come on, obviously not.
 

kharma45

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Rooney can get 30 goals if he's the main striker. Whoever gets him will be very happy.

If he's the main striker in a team and playing every week that'd massively help his fitness even if he doesn't buck up his ideas off the pitch. He still clearly has the talent to be a top player it is just finding the motivation to make full use of it.
 

Arnie

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So only the season before last then? If he stayed at United this year and had another poor season I'd consider him off it, everyone can have a bad year. I'd say too it's more motivation to be fit.

Back on his value again as well, it's not as if Torres was setting the world alight at Liverpool in the season that he left for Chelsea in that huge money deal.
The whole team was playing shit, so nobody really blamed Torres.

Rooney just looked shit last season, fat and uninterested.

And yes, Suarez was twice the player of Rooney last season, and is twice as valuable to the team he's in, with a contract signed more recently. He's worth twice what Rooney is. There's a reason foreign clubs do not want Rooney.
If you think we'd sell him for the same price to Chelsea as we would to PSG...come on, obviously not.
I don't think a British club will pay £30 million, and I don't think a foreign club will bid, and I don't think United are in a position to say no. Rooney's being a tit.
 

Bumhead

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I think Rooney's transfer value is the sort where it depends how United use it whether it's a good price or not.

If United get £22m for Rooney and replace him with a top class central midfielder then that's good business and they're laughing.

Quick question, has anyone on here played Virtua Tennis 4 on PC? Can you play it without the audio? Want to give it a bash but also listening to Glasto coverage.
 
I don't think a British club will pay £30 million, and I don't think a foreign club will bid, and I don't think United are in a position to say no. Rooney's being a tit.
Well this is what it would come down to.

I reckon we'll still say no. That £30m does very little for us in the grand scheme of things. It would a terrible decision to sanction that transfer. I suppose it's possible but it would be a really big surprise to me if people at United went along with that.
 

kharma45

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The whole team was playing shit, so nobody really blamed Torres.

Rooney just looked shit last season, fat and uninterested.

And yes, Suarez was twice the player of Rooney last season, and is twice as valuable to the team he's in, with a contract signed more recently. He's worth twice what Rooney is. There's a reason foreign clubs do not want Rooney.

I don't think a British club will pay £30 million, and I don't think a foreign club will bid, and I don't think United are in a position to say no. Rooney's being a tit.

Twice the player over one season. You also have to deal with all the Suarez associated baggage too. Whilst he is class when playing football his behaviour imo impacts on his value. Rooney was awfully out of sorts last year but only last year. If he can find the motivation there is no reason he can't be very effective again in a team where he is starting up front where he wants every week.

United are in a position to say no. We're not in desperate need of the money and it'd be better to persevere with him for another year than undersell him.
 

kharma45

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I'd sell Rooney to Arsenal for 25 mil but not to Chelsea or City. From them I'd want 35+ mils.

I'd be more worried to see him at Arsenal as he'd automatically be their best striker and playing every week where he could get in to form and fitness. At least at the other teams he'd have competition.
 
would be fuming if we sold rooney to a rival for £25 million

Won't happen. RVP went for about that, was older, made a public statement saying he wanted out, and was on his last contract year. Arsenal weren't really competing with United where as Chelsea would be. Rooney also has 2 more years left on his contract.

In 2012 Rooney played 8 more games than the 2013 Rooney, and was played as the main striker. Last season Rooney was played all over the place at times and made way for RVP.

As the main striker he will get a team 30 goals.

I think he would go for about 30 mil if he goes overseas.
 
Fuck Rooney anyway, let's talk about Thiago.

I have a feeling we'll know more tmrw. If 3pm passes by and Barcelona haven't announced he's signed a new contract...we're back in there.

I'd be more worried to see him at Arsenal as he'd automatically be their best striker and playing every week where he could get in to form and fitness. At least at the other teams he'd have competition.
He'll have more competition at Arsenal when they sign Higuain than he would at Chelsea.
 

kharma45

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Fuck Rooney anyway, let's talk about Thiago.

I have a feeling we'll know more tmrw. If 3pm passes by and Barcelona haven't announced he's signed a new contract...we're back in there.

After his Instagram post I feel less optimistic. He's not stupid, he knows how that post will be interpreted. Still, hope for the best and all that.
 
You guys are easily deceived by his instagram post.

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I got so consumed by the Thiago muppetry that the other day I was watering some plants on Animal Crossing and I was like, shit what if Xavi breaks his leg tonight...no way we're getting Thiago then.

Luckily he didn't. Just one more match to get through Xavi. *taps desk*.
 
I got so consumed by the Thiago muppetry that the other day I was watering some plants on Animal Crossing and I was like, shit what if Xavi breaks his leg tonight...no way we're getting Thiago then.

Luckily he didn't. Just one more match to get through Xavi. *taps desk*.

Let's hope Xavi plays a wonderful through ball to Cesc to win the game.
 

Salvadora

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Cesc's personal life is a bit weird.

He had an affair with the wife of a multimillionaire who is 13 years his elder (they're still together). His daughter lives with her mother in London. The legal battle is very interesting, quite sly of Fabregas to bid on their family home when the courts forced it to go on the market.

All very strange.
 

Arnie

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I like the idea that It's Messi who has been pushed aside for a central Kagawa, when a central Kagawa was last season kaiboshed by a fat as fuck Wayne Roonetron.
 
My main problem with Rooney is he threw well publicised tantrums under Alex, who is one of the toughest managers ever in football. Now he's under Moyes, who's unproven. I just don't want a Balotelli/Tevez situation in our hands. You just can't have a sulking star player in the locker room, shit is BAD for morale.

I still think he's good, but he probably needs a team that is built all around him. Right now he pales next to RVP and it's hard to find a place for him with United's lineup.

Edit: Kagawa would just SHINE if Rooney isn't there. Or Valencia. Or that dick Welbeck.
 
Cesc's personal life is a bit weird.

He had an affair with the wife of a multimillionaire who is 13 years his elder (they're still together). His daughter lives with her mother in London. The legal battle is very interesting, quite sly of Fabregas to bid on their family home when the courts forced it to go on the market.

All very strange.
Woah, that is weird.

Cesc goes to Barca and turns into a knob. Who knew.
 
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What the fuck.

:lol
 

Salvadora

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Woah, that is weird.

Cesc goes to Barca and turns into a knob. Who knew.

I thought he was still with his childhood sweetheart, Carla Garcia.

His girlfriend posted a picture on instagram, "London isn't a city, it's the world" so it looks like his family are staying put. His most recent tweet was a picture of him facetiming with his daughter. Bit heartbreaking to be stuck in Spain.
 
I'm at a crossroads


After I finish TLoU, should I carry on with my backlog, or replay Ico + SotC, this time in HD?


Deleted Dead Space 2/3, DMC1-4 and RE6 from the backlog. They're never gonna happen
 
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