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[RaidenJTr7]

Peter Moore recalls the Xbox 360 and PS3 rivalry and reveals that he always knew that Sony's Killzone 2 demo was bogus.

Twenty years ago at E3 2005, Sony showed off a Killzone 2 video as an example of the PlayStation 3's power over its rival console, Microsoft's Xbox 360. However, Sony later admitted that the Killzone 2 video wasn't actually gameplay footage and that it was meant to be a "target render" for the team to achieve. Now, former Xbox boss Peter Moore has shared that he knew all along that the Killzone 2 demo was "BS."

Former Xbox Boss Says He Knew Sony's Killzone 2 E3 Showcase Was BS

Peter Moore recalls the Xbox 360 and PS3 rivalry and reveals that he always knew that Sony's Killzone 2 demo was bogus.

www.gamespot.com

John DF

This now infamous trailer showcased a level of detail and fidelity unlike anything we could imagine at the time and for good reason - the trailer was completely pre-rendered

At E3 2007, Killzone 2 received its first proper reveal with a new look at the game running on actual PlayStation 3 hardware. No, it didn't match that pre-rendered trailer but the team got closer than anyone could have imagined in terms of pulling off the look and feel.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I remember my friends being absolutely blown away by it and I had to crush their dreams saying it was most likely fake because of the fluid dynamics and frame rate; good times.

 

[clarky]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

 

[DannyDanger]

Has Sony ever done this again since?
I feel like they learned their lesson after the controversy with this one

 

[Kadve]

Has Sony ever done this again since?
I feel like they learned their lesson after the controversy with this one

The only other such thing i can think of at least was Ubisoft and Watchdog.

 

[Memati187]

It turned out great at the end, even if it didn't meet the cgi trailer. So what is this about? Crying about an almost 2 decades old game just to feel better about the current situation on the greener side or what lol

 

[Sooner]

At least it existed. It wasn't a Scalebound/Everwild/Perfect Dark that were shown and discussed year after year in showcases.

 

[lifa-cobex]

Yea but you were the head of EA sports devision so shut up Pete....

I think everyone thought their was no way it was real.

Has Sony ever done this again since?
I feel like they learned their lesson after the controversy with this one

No so directly but...
No man's sky.
Witcher 3

So no but Yes

 

[Sintoid]

A true pro

 

[LordCBH]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

Yup. Final product still looked absolutely incredible though.

 

[tanners]

The GOAT of faking the showcase is Ubisoft
Remeber the Watch_DOGS showcase?

 

[Kadve]

Has Sony ever done this again since?
I feel like they learned their lesson after the controversy with this one

Also Deep down. Despite we never getting the game im still not convinced that trailer was real...

 

[Hookshot]

Can a modded Witcher 3 match the swamp clip now?

 

[adamsapple]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

They definitely tried to hoodwink people otherwise, lol.

So how does Sony respond to the allegations? Far from being evasive, it met them head-on. "Yes, it is real time," a rep told GameSpot.

 

[Mr Moose]

Is he going down memory lane or something? It was 20 years ago.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

Anyone with any intelligence knew, but there were plenty of fans back then that were convinced it was real.

 

[diffusionx]

Well the game came out and it looked better than anything on 360 except for maybe Gears 3 and Halo 4 which came out much later.

 

[RaidenJTr7]

Has Sony ever done this again since?
I feel like they learned their lesson after the controversy with this one

I think so

John from DF
Tlou 2

If I had to level any complaints at the game, it would be that perhaps the final game doesn't quite match up to the full promise of the incredible E3 2018 demo embedded above. Don't get me wrong, it's close, but the animation work and shading doesn't quite live up to the full promise of that remarkable vertical slice.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

For YEARS there were Sony fanboys swearing up and down that it was real because Sony "confirmed" it.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

The GOAT of faking the showcase is Ubisoft
Remeber the Watch_DOGS showcase?

Deep down
Motorstorm

 

[Kenneth Haight]

The initiative still keeping the flag flying for fake games in 2025, RIP in peace

 

[K' Dash]

Man, what a time, every game was grey, brown and had that haze... until Gears 3.

 

[Mephisto40]

The end result wasn't even that far off the trailer tbh

 

[Cre8]

It was one of the best shooter game on PS3 when it came out.

 

[Gaiff]

The end result wasn't even that far off the trailer tbh

That's the 2007 trailer. OP is talking about the E3 2005 trailer that looks a lot better.

It was one of the best shooter game on PS3 when it came out.

Doesn't mean much.

 

[Fake]

Now ask him about Perfect Dark.

 

[LordCBH]

It was one of the best shooter game on PS3 when it came out.

I really miss the online from KZ2.

I had some complaints with KZ2, such as the delayed controls, but the fact that I still loved the game despite those issues (issues for me, I should say) really speaks to just how well it was made overall. KZ3 was a decent follow up, but Shadowfall wasn't. Still enjoyed the online for Shadowfall at least, just not to the same degree as 2.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Never mind the KZ difference. I dont think it was that far off. If you really want to see a ginormous difference, compare Motorstorm initial trailer to the real game. It's like night and day.

 

[user friendly]

That's the 2007 trailer. OP is talking about the E3 2005 trailer that looks a lot better.

The poster acknowledged that...

 

[Bond007]

Peter Moore always trying to stay in the news with some "past insight"
He is still butthurt over his failed consoles i guess.

 

[RaidenJTr7]

Well the game came out and it looked better than anything on 360 except for maybe Gears 3 and Halo 4 which came out much later.

Nah, Crysis 2 + Crysis 3 had better graphics and more advanced tech on 360 even better than all halo games

Richard DF
"Crysis 2 on console is an exceptional release.
phenomenally attractive game, producing effects quite different and in many ways more advanced than anything we've seen elsewhere on console. We all wanted Crysis on console to be an event, a showcase release: by and large, Crytek has delivered, and those cutting edge visuals are backed by a truly impressive game design".

John dark1x 2021 - switch ver
" before we go into all of the details again i just have to stress how good crysis 3 still looks today i mean this was released before the last generation of consoles i think it still holds up, looks like a Ps4 and xbox one generation title in a way that kind of shocking".

"When it comes to advancing the state of real-time rendering technology, Crytek has long stood at the forefront of the industry.
-
2013
"The fact that Crysis 3 runs on console at all is a remarkable achievement, with Crytek deploying a wide range of advanced rendering techniques"

"Crysis 3 is one of the most technically accomplished games of this generation, a visually spectacular piece of software that pushes graphical boundaries on all platforms.
And with all its graphical settings pushed to the max."

 

[Kilau]

This is and Ubi is why I don't even watch trailers anymore, still so much is bullshit.

 

[Sooner]

Also Deep down. Despite we never getting the game im still not convinced that trailer was real...

That isn't Sony, though.

 

[user friendly]

I still remember the gameplay reveal like it was yesterday. I remember earlier in the day or day before there was a very poor picture released and there was a lot of speculation around it not looking too hot but then the gameplay reveal.

 

[diffusionx]

Nah, Crysis 2 + Crysis 3 had better graphics and more advanced tech on 360 even better than all halo games

Richard DF
"Crysis 2 on console is an exceptional release.
phenomenally attractive game, producing effects quite different and in many ways more advanced than anything we've seen elsewhere on console. We all wanted Crysis on console to be an event, a showcase release: by and large, Crytek has delivered, and those cutting edge visuals are backed by a truly impressive game design".

John dark1x 2021 - switch ver
" before we go into all of the details again i just have to stress how good crysis 3 still looks today i mean this was released before the last generation of consoles i think it still holds up, looks like a Ps4 and xbox one generation title in a way that kind of shocking".

"When it comes to advancing the state of real-time rendering technology, Crytek has long stood at the forefront of the industry.
-
2013
"The fact that Crysis 3 runs on console at all is a remarkable achievement, with Crytek deploying a wide range of advanced rendering techniques"

"Crysis 3 is one of the most technically accomplished games of this generation, a visually spectacular piece of software that pushes graphical boundaries on all platforms.
And with all its graphical settings pushed to the max."

Crysis 2 and 3 also came out for ps3 lol. Your quotes literally say "Crysis... on console", not Crysis on360.

I dont know why you need to akshully me on this, don't be a sperg. .

 

[Rush2112]

I knew it was BS when I first saw it. Here's a cookie?

 

[adamsapple]

Never mind the KZ difference. I dont think it was that far off. If you really want to see a ginormous difference, compare Motorstorm initial trailer to the real game. It's like night and day.

With KZ, it vaguely looked like a game .

The Motorstorm trailer was just flat out blatantly CG.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

Yeah. How is this worth reporting about?

Even people writhing PlayStation itself have come out and said it was what they were envisioning it to look like.

 

[spons]

They made it look gamey and claimed it was real due to "Cell blast processing" or whatever the fuck. Quite a travesty now that I think about it.

 

[RaidenJTr7]

Yeah. How is this worth reporting about?

Even people writhing PlayStation itself have come out and said it was what they were envisioning it to look like.

I swear 1/2 years ago i saw people on multiple sites say that final game looks better than the 2005 trailer which is not true.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

The only other such thing i can think of at least was Ubisoft and Watchdog.

Not Everwild?

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I swear 1/2 years ago i saw people on multiple sites say that final game looks better than the 2005 trailer which is not true.

I think I can see what they mean. The trailer was a very CG look to the characters and it overall "cleaner" looking.

To me the trailer looks better but I like the way the actual game looks better.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Every man and his dog knew it was bullshit.

Everyone knew but yet we still all hoped.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Even at the time it felt pretty obvious that was not in-game controller in-hand gameplay, lol. SO many people believed it was though, I didn't quite understand how at all.

 

[CircleOfFire]

Ah yes 20 years after it happened, Peter Moore declares that at the time he knew it was fake. That's like me proudly announcing that I definitely knew what the lottery numbers were 3 months ago but I never bought a ticket.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

The game didn't end up looking as good, but the final product was still incredibly impressive to a console pleb such as myself back then. KZ2, GoW3 and UC2 blew me the f away back then.

 

[Punished Miku]

The only other such thing i can think of at least was Ubisoft and Watchdog.

FFXV reveal also. I remember some debates on if that was real.

 

[KimDongHwan]

Sad to think that E3 days are over, live conferences with all its good and bad and their awesome surprise moments are not going to happen anymore.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Nintendo did it twice. I love it when some people pretend they forgot.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

The end result wasn't even that far off the trailer tbh

I still remember the gameplay reveal like it was yesterday.

wrong trailer guys