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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals

Rains

Member
At the end of the day, people are going to flock to the same cars online anyways, what are you guys talking about.

There will be about 50 cars that everyone knows are competitive and those are the cars you'll see in the lobbies.

Cmon people lets not pretend that's the case, and sit around asking for 400 cars.

I'm pretty much always alone since FM2 online in driving the cars no one else wants. People ask me why am I driving this and that... the same people asking for 400 cars.

We all want the cars, okay. I'd love to see you USE them online though, don't talk about it, be about it. Why should they add cars if the LBs are full of only a handful of car varieties?
Because i dont play online most of my play time is offline
 
Damn, I guess 200 is the bare minimum I'd be OK with, but hopefully it's a little higher than that including the big day one patch. I'm a big fan of consistency and polish, so I appreciate all the cars being equals, including Forzavista, over a massive number with only some having all the extras.


Also, did they already say all the cars are unlocked from the beginning, or was I dreaming when I heard that?
 
Damn, I guess 200 is the bare minimum I'd be OK with, but hopefully it's a little higher than that including the big day one patch.


Also, did they already say all the cars are unlocked from the beginning, or was I dreaming when I heard that?

They were in 3 & 4, but to customize you still need to buy them.
 
They were in 3 & 4, but to customize you still need to buy them.

Well, when I say unlocked I mean I don't have to buy them. I thought I read something about all the games being available the moment you start. No more unlocking, buying, etc.

I hated the fact that in Forza 4 you had to spend weeks trying to save up enough to drive some of the best cars.
 
In all honesty, that's a rather underwhelming final reveal. Somewhat expected given the across-the-board upgrade to AV-spec, but wow, so many great cars from FM4 are now MIA. Hopefully the day one download bolsters the number somewhat.

I expect much of the rest of today's news to be decidedly more upbeat...
 
Well, when I say unlocked I mean I don't have to buy them. I thought I read something about all the games being available the moment you start. No more unlocking, buying, etc.

I hated the fact that in Forza 4 you had to basically spend weeks trying to save up enough to drive some of the best cars.

Money was never a problem if you turn off the assist they kind of throw it at you.
 

Xanadu

Banned
In all honesty, that's a rather underwhelming final reveal. Somewhat expected given the across-the-board upgrade to AV-spec, but wow, so many great cars from FM4 are now MIA. Hopefully the day one download bolsters the number somewhat.

I expect much of the rest of today's news to be decidedly more upbeat...

all forza 4 cars should be free dlc agreed!
 

p3tran

Banned
So, 200 cars on disc according to latest Showroom. Since it specifically says on disc, it shouldn't include the Day-one DLC, right ?

nah, very first sentence says:
"we are proud(?) to announce the final 35 cars that will be included in forza 5" (fullstop!)

well, having counted Dan spewing "HUNDREDS OF CARS" for so many times, I would expect that at least he would have given his words some distance from the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM before calling it a lie...
but no, it seems like "hundreds" is exactly 2. :D
I mean, ONE car less and he would lie. infinite cars more and he'd be telling the truth. (noted for future understanding of vague announcements)

so, obligatory revise: 250ish + 80 dlc -->> 200 + 150 dlc

PRO TIP TO MICROSOFT: with 200 cars out of the gate (how many less than forza 4?), I wouldnt be so fast raising my dlc prices by 60%...


btw who remembers how many cars horizon launched with? was it 230-250?
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
Well, when I say unlocked I mean I don't have to buy them. I thought I read something about all the games being available the moment you start. No more unlocking, buying, etc.

I hated the fact that in Forza 4 you had to spend weeks trying to save up enough to drive some of the best cars.

i think you get a selection of cars for every career choice you make to pick one from free. you then have to buy others if you want to. so, booting up the game, you can jump into any career or car type you want with a single car for each category. no more being forced to start in the "reasonably priced car"
 
Money was never a problem if you turn off the assist they kind of throw it at you.

Well, I'm the kinda guy who likes a few assists on. ;)

i think you get a selection of cars for every career choice you make to pick one from free. you then have to buy others if you want to. so, booting up the game, you can jump into any career or car type you want with a single car for each category. no more being forced to start in the "reasonably priced car"

OK, yeah, maybe that's what I recall hearing.
 
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Mascot

Member
200 excluding dlc

low

Not 1 Aussie classic is not acceptable!

Wow.

Well, I guess 200 is technically 'hundreds', plural. But it's not the generally accepted colloquial use of the term.

Hope you all enjoy your Forzavista. Seems it's come at quite a cost.

I guess we'll find out whether laser scanning has had a similar effect on the track count in a few hours time.
 

Rains

Member
Was expecting 250 min now what about the features tracks ect gimme newssss lol on a side not just recieved a E-mail from microsoft saying there giving me Killer instict for free all players unlocked yay
 

shandy706

Member
I think my guess was 200-300 around launch. I based that on them basically rebuilding a lot of Forza from the ground up.

This isn't a rehashed engine, tracks, AI, etc.

I'm ok with it AT LAUNCH as long as they keep the cars (and tracks) flowing.
 

Razdek

Banned
I think my guess was 200-300 around launch. I based that on them basically rebuilding a lot of Forza from the ground up.

This isn't a rehashed engine, tracks, AI, etc.

I'm ok with it AT LAUNCH as long as they keep the cars (and tracks) flowing.

They will with $50 DLC packs which is a joke.
 

Vorg

Banned
Wut. Are T10 aware that the competition has like 6 times that amount of cars in their game? No, not all cars need to be Autovista level cars, Turn 10. Though I guess all the shit Gran Turismo 5 got for the non ps3 cars may have contributed to this decision.
 

p3tran

Banned
I'm ok with it AT LAUNCH as long as they keep the cars (and tracks) flowing.

as long as you keep on flicking 50euro bills towards microsoft, they will.

I want to see what they did with tracks.

Wut. Are T10 aware that the competition has like 6 times that amount of cars in their game? No, not all cars need to be Autovista level cars, Turn 10. Though I guess all the shit Gran Turismo 5 got for the non ps3 cars may have contributed to this decision.
forza 5 aint competing with ps3.
gt will compete when it goes to nextgen platforms.
 

Xanadu

Banned
Wut. Are T10 aware that the competition has like 6 times that amount of cars in their game? No, not all cars need to be Autovista level cars, Turn 10. Though I guess all the shit Gran Turismo 5 got for the non ps3 cars may have contributed to this decision.

GT6 isnt on a new platform, remember GT3? thats the situation here, expect forza 6 to have many more cars
 
The track and feature list are going to be the decider for me.

If neither wow me, then I'll put this game off until the GOTY edition.

(The reason for me being so strict is that I am having to buy an Xbone for this one game. So it has to be worth that investment)
 

saladine1

Junior Member
Wut. Are T10 aware that the competition has like 6 times that amount of cars in their game? No, not all cars need to be Autovista level cars, Turn 10. Though I guess all the shit Gran Turismo 5 got for the non ps3 cars may have contributed to this decision.

Yeah, not a fair comparison. Going to a new gen usually means sacrifices. I'm sure GT7 will go through the same thing..
 

p3tran

Banned
The track and feature list are going to be the decider for me.

If neither wow me, then I'll put this game off until the GOTY edition.

(The reason for me being so strict is that I am having to buy an Xbone for this one game. So it has to be worth that investment)

Farrow, most of us that regularly write in these topics, basically we're getting the xbone just for forza.
i am sure that more than 60-70% of us could wait some time if forza wasn't dropping day 1.
the rest of the games alone, for me they dont even equalize the xbone travesty and controversy.

so, if you like racing games, you dont want me to really answer to you if its worth it.. right?

problem is, if you get that collector itch in-game, i can see it costing in the 200 range.
 
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I don't know when I'm ever going to play Forza Motorsport again, but this is all kinds of awesome. Goddamn.
 

LowerLevel

Member
In for Jeremy's, Richard's and James' narratives. One listen, maybe two if the banter is particularly good. Beyond that, Forzavista is a waste of dev resources. 0.1 faques given.

+1
One can probably find real photos online for visuals. Maybe not pics of engine bays and such, but... I look at it as a feature. One I don't really have to use.
 
It almost physically pains me that there won't be a Zonda R in FM5 at launch, and the scarcity of race cars and rare and historic exotics is almost enough to convince me that the additional sourcing and modelling requirements for Forzavista do not justify its inclusion. That ship, of course, has long since sailed.

Weirdly, some FM4 cars already modeled for Autovista like the Veyron, Koenigsegg CCX, Reventon, and Gumpert Apollo aren't on the list. Possible candidates for the day one DLC?

Some soothing words from the NED that is BAD right about now would be welcome.
 

Xanadu

Banned
In for Jeremy's, Richard's and James' narratives. One listen, maybe two if the banter is particularly good. Beyond that, Forzavista is a waste of dev resources. 0.1 faques given.

that stuff sells a lot of games trust me, a lot of people buy these games just for the graphics, they dont care about physics or any of the stuff us hardcore guys have been asking for for years
 
Quick straw poll: who here gives a fuck about Forzavista?

Ha! I kind of did this with a group of around 30 Forza friends a year ago. They had all played Forza since at least the beginning of FM2, and all played Forza at least 15 hrs a week.

The person who had spent the longest time in Autovista clocked in at just under 4hrs........ because he had fallen asleep!

Most of us were around the 1 hr 30 mark. Enough time to unlock the cars in the challenges, and listen to Clarkson. That's it.

It was a rather sterile tech demo in FM4, and although from what we've been told it's much better implemented in FM5, it's too steep a price to pay for the loss of approx %60 of the car roster.

I just wish microsoft had given T10 six more months development time.
 
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