drugstore_cowboy
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Unlocked the autovista cars for something to do but no I'm not impressed with it's inclusion.
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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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Big Takeover
Member
Mods and liveries should make it a fair bit more compelling. I'd like that demonstrated asap.
iirc, I had 24 mins in that mode or something
I know for sure I havent even seen all the cars.
it was like a thing, an app completely out of the game.
but also, now that people say "in for top gear forzavista commentary"...
are we sure that each car will have clarkson or someone talking about it?
or is the commentary not tied per car, and more like per career event, like some video we show earlier..
I've asking this too. I mean, any NORMAL person, would first show the new features that he offers, THEN announce the number of included cars, THEN announce the dlc number of cars and pricing.
especially if he had to announce like a 60% increase in dlc prices, and a diminished day 1 roster.
here, its "situation reverse"
son of a Sven
Banned
Me me me! As someone who paints and photographs just as much as I race, I really hope I can take pics with open doors etc. this time. Autovista pissed me off for not allowing liveries. Another thing, I sure as shit hope they can let me save big shots on a flash drive this time instead of waiting for fucking ever to upload then download. But this is Microsoft, so I'm sure it's the same shit show.
guitarhero
Member
Remember that ForzaVista is a major "graphic whores pleaser" for the One, it's the kind of thing that Microsoft can show and say "THIS IS NEXT-GEN, LOOK AT THE SHINY-SHINY, NOW GIVE US YOUR MONEY", specially with the liveries and mods.
If you want lots of tracks and cars, it's better to wait for Forza 6 or 7, when they can reuse the next-gen models.
If you want lots of tracks and cars, it's better to wait for Forza 6 or 7, when they can reuse the next-gen models.
-MikePriester-
Member
I guessed F1 before the announcement and I'm gonna throw it out there that this is what you are referrering to by 'surprise features'.
Could if be that you can drive straight out of the Garage on to 'a track' a track being some sort of Italian pass or simply just a test track?
Anyways, looking forward to the news coming and hope it is indeed today.
That would change things for sure.
Honestly anything they could do to tie it into gameplay.
I had long ago requested on the official forums that they tie it into tuning and upgrades.
Open the trunk, let me mess around, also show me a bunch of cool graphs and overlays as I adjust spring tension or tire pressure. And a lot of etc. All in AV.
SlinkyFriend
Neo Member
I am excited for vista but after awhile I see myself not using it, so in hindsight vista isn't worth it. They should really just have vista for community voted cars. And focus more time having more cars. Also with the DLC being priced pretty high, I'll probably never buy it, but that doesn't mean I won't buy the game. 200 is low, in my opinion, and I haven't played much racing games lately, but I would really like to see a great amount of choices.
Though, with fewer cars, and with vista for each, the cars they do have probably react very much like the real counterpart. So I could see and understand having fewer cars as a plus as well. Can't wait till November 22!
Also, Microsoft should really give Turn 10 a 2 1/2 year cycle for development at least to really pump out some amazing quality. Turn 10 really has the potential!
Though, with fewer cars, and with vista for each, the cars they do have probably react very much like the real counterpart. So I could see and understand having fewer cars as a plus as well. Can't wait till November 22!
Also, Microsoft should really give Turn 10 a 2 1/2 year cycle for development at least to really pump out some amazing quality. Turn 10 really has the potential!
-MikePriester-
Member
Grom? (Not sure who it was)
But they set up a Google shared spreadsheet a while ago with Gaf's wants in the future, any chance you can or anyone can dig that up?
Also gonna throw it out there that the pit stops have been improved somewhat, or I'd hope so with the addition of the people in the pre race presentation
But they set up a Google shared spreadsheet a while ago with Gaf's wants in the future, any chance you can or anyone can dig that up?
Also gonna throw it out there that the pit stops have been improved somewhat, or I'd hope so with the addition of the people in the pre race presentation
Forzavista isn't Autovista though.
From what it sounds/looks like, Forzavista will be awesome. I like painting and photographing cars. Also, if the majority of things that have to do with customizing cars happens in that mode (including driving onto the test track) then I'll be spending a ton of time in it.
IIRC, it was said that the Top Gear Trio provide colour commentary for the career (like that video of the Supercar career narrated by Jezza), but not for Forzavista.
I like it a lot, combined with the spoken mini-reviews for each. The fact that it means these cars are modeled to a higher than otherwise necessary standard is part of the appeal for me.
pretty much was expecting alot more cars we will see that about the features when they show up that is lol
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Shortt Sirket
Member
It better be in! How can you not have the perfect Ferrari? Plus it has been in like every Forza game.
phosphor112
Banned
Ugh... the cost of Auto-Vista.
Cipher Soze
Member
The '84 288gto is in. Down the list here :-
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/en-GB/news/Forza_Motorsport_5_Showroom
No little Alfa Stradale? sobs (both meanings)
simpsons money grubber gif
http://www.forzamotorsport.net/en-GB/news/Forza_Motorsport_5_Showroom
No little Alfa Stradale? sobs (both meanings)
simpsons money grubber gif
phosphor112
Banned
I was fine with normal GT5 and FM4 photomode.
Big Takeover
Member
I've asking this too. I mean, any NORMAL person, would first show the new features that he offers, THEN announce the number of included cars, THEN announce the dlc number of cars and pricing.
especially if he had to announce like a 60% increase in dlc prices, and a diminished day 1 roster.
here, its "situation reverse"
I couldn't agree with you more more ;-)
Whatever successes Forza has is in despite of their PR department. That goes for Microsoft as a whole across many different divisions. Phony, and self-serving is how they often present themselves, and subsequently how they're identified. The people that make the games and products are great. Too bad they're let down by poor messaging.
Cipher Soze
Member
I think it's the material shader upgrades, especially the interiors, which has caused the drop in the roster, not the basic models. Didn't Greenawalt say before FM4 that the models were future proof?
They've just not had enough resources, namely TIME Curse your 2 year development cycle Microsoft!!
@ Big Takeover. Agreed, but I've come to expect little more from the PR industry, considering it used to be called Propaganda. Microsofts/T10's PR seems more inept than most.lol
Will we be paying extra for every new car they develop for the game? Like, when we get to 600, will we have paid for all of this over the cost of the game? Like are we directly paying for the development of this game, or the license to play it?
If that's the case, I might have been satisfied pre Forzavista! I just wanted to race!!
I would buy a "Top Gear: Jeremy Clarkson Wants a Yacht" DLC pack. You can quote me on that.
ACH1LL3US
Member
In the launch video from yesterday it showed the engine to the Zonda R... are we sure its not in there??? This is THE car I use on the Ring in GT5 so I hope its there in F5!
Not even close, Forza 4 levels of quality were never even close to this level of quality other then Autovista.
Uh these models are being developed to be used in races...
Every game you buy you are buying a license to play it you don't actually own the content.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
I'm fine with 200 cars as a starting point, I don't think I ever drove more than that in a single Forza game. Now, what is very important is the track list, if it's cut in half or even more then it will be a disaster.
phosphor112
Banned
Keep telling yourself that. We already know the models get downgraded when in race. We've seen it already.
Full grid on left, no interior detail.
Time trial(?) on right, interior detail.
You can expect each to be lower LOD's anyway without that. They aren't going to waste several million polygons on details you won't see in race.
sCHOCOLATE
Member
Really? Well, if that's the case, Forzavista can go fly a kite!
Not that I think what you're saying is unlikely, but I'd wait for the final version of the software to base this sort of assertion on, considering the version without the engine was from an old build with known visual glitches, and the one on the right is from a newer, but still old version.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
8 minutes until the floodgates
Keep telling yourself that. We already know the models get downgraded when in race. We've seen it already.
Full grid on left, no interior detail.
Time trial(?) on right, interior detail.
You can expect each to be lower LOD's anyway without that. They aren't going to waste several million polygons on details you won't see in race.
no, both pics are from races, none is single car. but are different builds.
we will see how they finally juggle the car detail when we have the fuckin thing in our hands.
Where? What? Link?
So were the cars in FM2! But I wasn't paying ala carte!
I get that, but it feels like we are paying T10 staff directly now for every nut and bolt. I dunno, I usually do not feel that way when buying products in general.
so which are the missing two?
Helios? BadNed? anyone?
they better be monza and long beach!
article says tracks cut where victims of being "lowtech and/or old", not victims of "greedy as fuck microsoft".
so these two, we know from smartgeometrics that you scanned and are fresh.
Red Chocobo
Banned
14 tracks just saved me £470. I'll pick it up next year when there will probably be a GOTY edition with more content.
I'll still keep my eye on people's impressions though.
I'll still keep my eye on people's impressions though.