Reaching a bit here. Pixlexic's stance is literally unchanged in those two posts.
Im glad they're keeping the music festival angle in this, hope the soundtrack is as good as the 1st!
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Forza Horizon 2: Resolution (1080p), Framerate (30fps), Music, & More Detailed - IGNF
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Reaching a bit here. Pixlexic's stance is literally unchanged in those two posts.
Im glad they're keeping the music festival angle in this, hope the soundtrack is as good as the 1st!
miDnIghtEr20C
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Maybe because it's an open world racer? I wish it was at 60, but I also wish WD's and GTA was 60 also. Maybe open world has something to do with it. Not a closed environment like other racers do.
condompickle
Banned
ouch it was always 30fps? such mega power so little return for a linear game.
Nah. If you can't stand 30fps for racers, then it being open world has nothing to do with it, because the actual racing is the same.
You of all people suggesting fanboyism is pretty hilarious.
Rex Griswold
Member
This thread has depleted my supply of popcorn.
How many more days of coverage do we have on FH2?
How many more days of coverage do we have on FH2?
Looking forward to seeing how diverse the environments are, and heck, everything.
Little return? My friend, have you even seen the game? Argue if you want about the importance of framerate over graphical fidelity, but if we ARE talking about graphical fidelity, DC has it out the wazoo.
FH2, but you can't be too surprised to see discussion of its closest rival in here.
Little return? My friend, have you even seen the game? Argue if you want about the importance of framerate over graphical fidelity, but if we ARE talking about graphical fidelity, DC has it out the wazoo.
FH2, but you can't be too surprised to see discussion of its closest rival in here.
Hypocrisy is pretty much the only real issue there could be here, otherwise you're basically just asking why different people sets of people (who probably bought different machines) have different opinions on performance.
There was also Evo going dark on us for months after apparently 'considering' 60fps. That gave plenty of people time to build expectations that the almost year long delay may have made 60fps possible. Here pretty much everyone immediately assumed FH2 would be 30fps due to precedent (FH1 to FM4), and the resolution and framerate were confirmed 2 days after the title was announced, rather than over 6 months after it was supposed to have shipped.
I think Forza Horizon 2 will be more like Forza Horizon and less like DriveClub.
You better get some more by friday, cause that's when we see footage of FH2. The FH2 Vs. DC battle really starts.
Open world doesn't change the frame rate gameplay impact though. As I touched upon earlier, it's just a nonsensical semantic exclusion. Going open world just means they'd need to downscale the visuals more to hit 60fps than they would if their game was not open world.
Obviously being open world is going to mean it's more demanding than if it wasn't, but that doesn't mean it's automatically more demanding than a linear or non open world game either mind. It's totally dependant on a range of countless factors.
preparing yourself for inevitable let down eh
I didn't say the game would be more like DC, I said it would look more like DC in graphical fidelity than it will Forza 5, particularly in lighting, IQ, and environmental detail/geometry.
condompickle
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id like a link. i have a mega powerful pc. pm me. SUPER MEGA
Oh come on, if you don't think DC looks fantastic from a graphical standpoint, you are just being silly.
I think he's just being sarcastic dude Having you on so to speak lol.
have you SEEN Driveclub?
Awesome, thanks. I haven't had an Xbox since my 360 RROD right after I played Forza 2, Halo 2, Fable 2, Gears 2, etc so I'm psyching myself up to get the new one
Zvonimir Boban
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Come on, you know you don't mean that. Every bit of news I hear about this game has me all like this
Come on, you know you don't mean that. Every bit of news I hear about this game has me all like this
that track was hype as fuck. id pump that shit while racing down highways in horizon. so good.
condompickle
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don't get me wrong drive club looks great. what i would expect from a corridor driving game.
TrueGrime
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Zvonimir Boban
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velociraptor
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Uh... an open world, a closed world, a closed circuit, point to point, a rally game... they all feel the same at 30FPS. The actual driving will feel the same.
Galactic Barret
Member
Awesome. Now there will be no more complaints about 30fps. Was a stupid, stupid argument anyway.
No they won't. Each game has their own feel. Watch Dogs controls and feels completely different from GTA. No doubt the weight and movement of the cars in Drive club will feel different from Horizon 2.
As pretty much a Sony guy in reference to my gaming habits nowadays, I reeeeaaally think this game will be great and is the first time I've considered buying an Xbox One.
I won't, because one game, or even 2 or 3, would never be enough for me to purchase a whole system, but Horizon on the 360 was so good that I'm sure this'll be a blast too.
I won't, because one game, or even 2 or 3, would never be enough for me to purchase a whole system, but Horizon on the 360 was so good that I'm sure this'll be a blast too.
I think people will still demand 60fps for closed circuit racing games, no?
Even more now, that the weaker hardware is providing an open world with dynamic lighting, weather, sim physics engine, traffic and seamless online mode with 12 players at 30 fps.
NullPointer
Member
With Forza Motorsport, Gran Turismo and Project Cars all doing 60fps I'd say the genre is still safe ;p
Somebody could always make a 60fps open world and take these 30fps racers on too. Driver: San Francisco turned out pretty damn well, even if the premise probably confused or scared off some sales.
DemurOnion
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All this sounds hot but that IQ is the big elephant in the room. I'm no longer hooked by statements like these. If the game is some kind of uprezzed AA-less PR spin to deathzone, much like Driveclub would have been if it launched last year, I'm going to be very disappointed.
Sorry, but I no longer trust PR people.
Sorry, but I no longer trust PR people.
DemurOnion
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Come on, you know you don't mean that. Every bit of news I hear about this game has me all like this
Why does the news about this game make you do that? That's... confusing.
BuggeryBugz
Member
If only this came out on PC.
I am not liking this IGN FIRST drip feed of info over a month. Anyway, looking forward to the gameplay on Friday.
Considering previous gen racers were offering many of those things, on hardware considerably weaker than either of the new consoles, I think the bigger surprise was why some current gen racers weren't offering some of those things, as oppose to why some are. Then again, it was launch period, so criticism and judgment needs to be dialled back accordingly.
miDnIghtEr20C
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Hmmm... we shall see. I guess put me on team Open World vs Closed making you race is a big difference. Especially when it's a Sim racer vs an Arcade racer. I kinda sense ... well.. lol, doesn't matter. This game doesn't compete with DrivClub anyways. Seems more like The Crew.
Wishmaster92
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Definitely, 60fps is ideal for closed-circuit racing games.
Both. You won't be able to have straight up discussion about either game until well after release.
Like it or not, people have different expectations for different types of games within the same genre.
...Scatter...
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Yeah, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Thats like saying all 30fps platformers feel the same. Or all 60fps basketball games feel the same. Just not true.
They preformed live at my university, it was fucking amazing
Strange you didn't pick out anyone who went the other way with it.
ignoring the other part of your post (good job btw), i think FH2 was expected, by anyone familiar with the first, to be 30 fps, whereas drive club was coming off a lengthy delay with the carrot dangled that they were investigating 60 fps at the start of the year. drive club's 30 fps response may have largely been due to disappointment.
Stillmatic
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What difference does 30 fps make in control responsiveness between and open world racer and closed curcuit racer if they're both sim/arcade hybrids? There is none, so whether a game is open world or closed curcuit at 30fps shouldn't matter.
Zvonimir Boban
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Getting my body ready bro.
The Xbox one can definitely hit 1080p, it's just a matter of what they are willing to sacrifice to hit that resolution. I'd be interested to see if they are able to keep an amazing image quality, with fantastic AA, while running the game at 1080p. Ryse looks fantastic, but we all know that Crytek had to settle for 900p in order to keep a great IQ while keep a steady frame-rate.
