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Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...
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RukusProvider
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The Porsche thing is misplaced anger. Go knockdown EA's walls for that one.
I'd imagine they had plenty of data on which tracks were least played and decided to cut those out and focus on the rest of the stuff.
I'd imagine they had plenty of data on which tracks were least played and decided to cut those out and focus on the rest of the stuff.
AlanzTalon
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isnt sunset supposed to mimic Daytona? it is a high-banked tri-oval with an infield section, whereas Indy is a flat (relatively) 4-corner with an entirely different infield layout, and even the MotoGP configuration with no banked corners.
People keep saying that Indy is like Sunset...but other than being a general infield road course, it couldn't be more different in configuration and way way different in full Indy/Nascar standard configuration.
further, LeMans Bugatti was easily my worst track. i hated it every time it came up online. not a fan of Amalfi either, really....
People keep saying that Indy is like Sunset...but other than being a general infield road course, it couldn't be more different in configuration and way way different in full Indy/Nascar standard configuration.
further, LeMans Bugatti was easily my worst track. i hated it every time it came up online. not a fan of Amalfi either, really....
RukusProvider
Banned
eek5 said:
You are assuming EA wanted to "work something out" that would be reasonable in the first place.
I'm with Xanadu on this one. Positano over Spa and Bathurst, fuck no. The track is good for lower classes but useless for anything above A (even A is stretching) while those two would provide great racing for any class.
Also, Eau Rouge/Raidillon or Bathurst's downhill Esses >>>>>>>>>>>>> any part of Positano...
Also, Eau Rouge/Raidillon or Bathurst's downhill Esses >>>>>>>>>>>>> any part of Positano...
eso76
Member
Xanadu said:
actually yes.
long fictional tracks are one of the things that separated fm from the other games.
it was fm trademark in a way (yeah, fm2 didn't have any) and i was pissed when i found fm4 wasn't going to have new ones, but removing positano is blasphemy !
I hope Fujimi is intact at least, otherwise heads will roll.
i have to imagine T10 looked at the stats for fm3 and saw those kinds of tracks were not immensely popular among the community.
RukusProvider
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eso,
if you want long tracks, ask for Isle of Man TT course. let's do this right!
if you want long tracks, ask for Isle of Man TT course. let's do this right!
What? Go back and read my posts. I don't care what went down between MS and EA at this point. I'm saying that if MS ever gets the sublicense or license they're going to gouge the fuck out of us with DLC. All those words about how hard they worked to try to get Porsche will be worth nothing. Cling on to them if you want but don't expect to exchange them in for free DLC.RukusProvider said:
brotkasten
Member
You don't like to drift, do you?Mascot said:
Big Takeover
Member
If only it were Amalfi vs. Spa. No, instead its Amalfi vs. Indy infield, and one of the worst tracks ever built won that battle.
Xanadu said:
actually, you are right, i'm really not a motorsport fan.
however i love racing games and i get more enjoyment out of the 6+ minute laps of amalfi then i do racing the shorter, even combined, lengths of bathurst and spa. I love rally in particular and of course you can easily see that amalfi mirrors that love more then bathurst and spa do.
why am i wasting my time defending a perfectly valid opinion?
AlanzTalon
Member
eek5 said:
selling something =/= gouging us.
because you want it, do you feel you are entitled to it for free? I don't know if you noticed, but DLC is a major factor in these games making money. development costs for these AAA games is way way up, but they are still $60. LCEs, DLC, Special editions are all ways for them to make money.
money is why they make these games, not out of civic duty. I hate the idea of paid DLC instead of getting the game on a disc. but it is reality. They have a product, you want said product, and they will give it to you in exchange for magic MS Spacebucks.
that said, maybe because they intended to have Porsche all along, it would be free DLC if they work something out. if not, you can have Porsche for a price, and it is up you to decide if it is worth the price. Capitalism. shit sucks sometimes, but that is the game.
AlanzTalon
Member
eek5 said:
i think we have run out of other shit to argue about at this point...so now we argue over what we are arguing about.
Big Takeover
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I'm a HUGE motorsports fan, and it took me a long time to realize I actually prefer D\C\B class cars, and fictional tracks over the rocket ships on engineered-for-safety tracks that I watch on Sundays. I just think it's more fun. It's that simple.op_ivy said:
flyinpiranha
Member
Gatdamn they have us fighting among ourselves now.
brotkasten
Member
Just wait for TGS!Slayer-33 said:
Diablohead
Member
That track has lots of interesting points but the game only used ONE STINKING AREA for small lap races, wtf.brotkasten said:
Only time you got to see the rest of the track was racing the entire thing or doing point to point... wasted modelling time there.
FunnyBunny
Member
I just went and played Amalfi. You know, I can't say I enjoyed it in the 458.
soundscream
Member
Why would you choose a car with that much power.FunnyBunny said:
B class or lower = sex
It really is. And wasn't Sunset Peninsula supposed to be a sort of 'Indy clone' like Blue Mountains was supposed to be a Bathurst clone? Do we really need both(especially considering Sunset Peninsula is actually the better track)? What were they thinking? I'm guessing that track selection isn't a matter of just, "What tracks do we WANT to put in" and more "What tracks CAN we put in?". I seriously doubt that Turn 10 are just ignorant of people's desire for Spa, ya know?eso76 said:
But yea, Forza news lately has sucked balls. Removing Amalfi long is pretty tragic in my opinion. It was an incredibly good track, just as good as Fujimi Kaido. It was one-of-a-kind.
So yea, now Fujimi Kaido is the only street track in the game, and it doesn't even have that narrow, walled-in vibe that makes street tracks so fun, either(not that its a bad track or anything!). Thats a big disappointment for me.
I also dont expect anything major with the physics. They made a huge deal out of Forza 3's physics improvements over FM2, and while there were definitely changes for the better, it wasn't exactly drastic or anything.
FM4 is definitely looking to me like FM3.5 more than anything. Slightly better looking and with user-created public lobbies being the main improvements. I really couldn't give a shit about crap like Autovista. I understand the appeal, but I think its a bit of a gimmick(or tech demo as someone else said) that will quickly be forgotten.
I still think it's a true sequel, especially with the gaming modes and graphical upgrades (amongst other things). But it feels like that due to whatever reasons, they're pulling back on content. Including some massive hitters as tracks like Spa or Bathurst would've really drawn a shit-ton of people in... would do for the core gamers/racers what the Top Gear license is designed to do for the casual gamer. We didn't get that, though :/
Instead, some decent tracks/layouts have been pulled and decidedly average ones have been added in their place (not counting Alpine).
Hopefully in the coming month we'll have an idea of the likelihood of tracks as DLC. Even if there's some kind of AV-type mode for tracks where Clarkson talks about the history of them while a freeroam camera pans around particular corners/spectacles. Can you imagine that for Nordschleife?!?
Instead, some decent tracks/layouts have been pulled and decidedly average ones have been added in their place (not counting Alpine).
Hopefully in the coming month we'll have an idea of the likelihood of tracks as DLC. Even if there's some kind of AV-type mode for tracks where Clarkson talks about the history of them while a freeroam camera pans around particular corners/spectacles. Can you imagine that for Nordschleife?!?
CrudeDiatribe
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The ones that aren't unicorns are FM3 LE (later DLC) or in the Ultimate edition.op_ivy said:
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Just want to say that any motor racing fan who doesn't appreciate classic rally really shouldn't be trying to call someone out on not being a fan. Amalfi long was the single best representation of a classic tarmac rally course available in any racing game on any platform, and I could easily see someone wanting that experience above another road course or two.Xanadu said:
As has been said, the lengthy fictional courses have been one of the things that sets Forza apart from other series, and Amalfi long was the crown jewel in F3's finery. Knowing this, in the spring, part of me was actually thinking that we might see a lengthy course through Maple Valley, considering it'd fit with T10's m.o.. Unfortunately I'm now expecting the track announcement tomorrow to include confirmation that we're not getting the full Fujimi Kaido.
I really, REALLY hope MS doesn't push Turn10 to get Forza5 out as a launch window game. I fear the sacrifices that would have to be made if that happens.
I hate it too, but at this point, would is honestly surprise you? The only thing that's holding me back is that they haven't said that Montserrat Extreme is gone yet, but even that is only just under 7km. If Positano's 12km length is why it's not in the game, then Fujimi's 16.4km track is most certainly gone.Shaneus said:
Now, the Nordschleife is a full 20.75km, but I'd almost say that's the exception, simply because if they didn't include it, they'd lose hoards of casuals who have been trained to think that it's the greatest track ever and no game can be without it.
edit: Hmmm, Mulsanne is 13.6, and that's in...length might not be the big factor here...in which case, all hail our Positano DLC overlords.
NullPointer
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But its true ;PAMUSIX said: