Forza Motorsport 4 - The Floodgates Have Opened...
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eso76
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Suzuka was confirmed available in different times of the day; i thought they would always give an example of 'dusk' when available in the tracks pages, but this not being the case, we can hope some more of the tracks revealed so far (beside hockenheim and infineon) have diff. lighting conditions.
Izayoi said:
No one really knows for sure, but most believe they've sold their LE allocation for Day 1.
If you want to pre-order, you'd be better off going through another channel and watching the Amazon listing to see if it comes back.
I currently have 2 LE pre-orders (Amazon+Best Buy) and 1 STD pre-order (Best Buy).
nagge said:
Here's my two cents:
I own a GT2 and from what I've seen in those previews I think the GT2 will still win out in some instances. GT2 rim is entirely wrapped in alcantara whereas the CSR only seems to have small inserts and some kind of glossy plastic for the rest of the wheel. I think the plastic parts wont feel as nice as a full alcantara rim. The analogue stick looks like it's an improvement, the GT2 D-pad is awkwardly positioned and can be a bit uncomfortable to use at times.
The base looks identical to that of the GT2 / GT3 RS and I doubt they've made too many mechanical improvements as that base would have been designed for a specific set of components. I'm sure any firmware improvements can be flashed to the GT2 as well if Fanatec takes the time to make the firmware cross-compatible.
I think that if you want to have a Fanatec wheel for day 1 Forza action you're better off ordering a GT2, It looks like Fanatec is stepping it up in terms of production but they are really cryptic as far as release dates so I wouldn't hold my breath till end of 2011/ early 2012.
supersaw said:
Thought I heard that the CSR wheel itself is lighter and that it does make a noticeable difference in wheel feel.
Another thing is that the button placement can mean accidentally hit buttons if you shuffle steer. I have the P911TS and I often rewind accidentally because of this.
Just adding some considerations...not saying you're wrong or anything...
supersaw said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xDHdOHt44&feature=player_detailpage#t=3m50s
The ISR guys give their opinions on the CSR vs GT2.
Iknos said:
i had the pwts and currently own a GT2.
i ve tested the csr elite at the gamescom and was dissapointed. the whole thing felt cheaper than the gt2. forcefeedback was great, but i dont know if it was because of fm4 or the wheel. i think the game has improved...
i ve mentioned this before. if you own a gt2, i wouldnt consider buying the csr elite.
the CSR wheel (which is ps3 and pc only) is amazing. this thing has blown me away. would buy it day 1 if it was xbox (and successor) compatible.
LeBoef said:
The Fanatec Clubsport wheel only works with PS3/PC.
The Fanatec CSR Elite wheel has the same base, motors and force feedback as the Clubsport wheel according to the info I read and works with PS3/PC/XBOX360 . But it has less features than the Clubsport wheel:
http://www.fanatecwheel.com/news/feature-comparison-between-clubsport-wheel-and-csr-elite-wheel
The Fanatec CSR wheel is a improved version of the Fanatec Porsche wheels and works with PS3/PC/XBOX360.
drugstore_cowboy
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Loved 355 Challenge, everything about it was incredible at the time but man that shit was punishingly hard.
abracadaver
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Wheres the 500+ MB download ?
eso76
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Shaneus said:
i demend a livery out of this.
Suzuka is a great track, of course we've been racing on it basically every racing game for the past 15 years.
Also, would like to try F355 again with proper wheel and clutch setup. I'd really like to see if it's as hard as we remember it being, now that we're used to modern sims.
Don't think so.
Alps making of + Hockenheim makinf of = 500MB.
Finally available on xblive !
kidding, should hit today
You could always use like-for-like and just play both FM4 and F355 with a controller and all assists off. It's nowhere near as fun for either, but it should give you a good base for which to compare.eso76 said:
Didn't mean to come off as condescending (didn't think it was at all, TBH), just that I have a habit of missing the obvious and then when it's pointed out it's all I can focus on.AMUSIX said:
eso76 said:
PS2 version of the game could offer the closest experience minus the clutch support - semi-automatic shifting was only available on Professional setting of both console versions:
Clutch support was part of Professional setting available only on the original (initial) F355 Arcade Cabinet - later evolutions of the cabinet didn't have triple-screen setup, H-gate shifter nor post-result printer.
PS2 version of the game is the ultimate console version, having not only true force feedback wheel support (in 270 degree mode for both players) but also because it have all 9 tracks from both arcade versions, as well as Fiorano Test Track.
On top of that, PS2 version of the F355 Challenge hosts a special mode called Great Driver Challenge, set of overtake challenges for every track where you have to come from last to leading position in dedicated amount of time/laps and using different driving techniques such as drafting and drifting and 100% fair driving in order to gain the score necessary for fulfilling the challenge and getting Gold Trophies for each track. Great Driver Challenge is non-arguably the greatest addition of the PS2 version.
And as someone who still love to put it inside PS2 and showcase it to friends during Racing Nostalgia Weekends, I can tell you it is still damn hard as it was. Of course physics have aged but it is still a same hard-hard-hard-core racer when tackled with all assists off. I still wait that ANY game gives such great feeling of speed as F355 have.
BTW Last month I run on the original cabinet in one shopping-mall in not-so good condition. I took a race and than forced my GF to spend half an hour with me trying to find an owner. I was on the brink of giving him an offer to buy the cabinet but we couldn't find who the guy was. My GF later convinced me that I'm an idiot if I was ready to give actual money for some 12 year old hardware weighting 650 kilos and having no space to really put it home.
Here is the picture - sequential shifters was replaced by some spares and H-shifter was out of the function.
Betty Swallox
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flyinpiranha said:
What you need is the 'RennSport Wheel Stand Shifter Adapter-Porsche Wheels and G25', granted it's not the easiest thing to find due to Fanatec's somewhat 'eccentric' English product descriptions.
For some reason it's not listed any more on the US site but can still be bought in the EU :
EU Webshop
Edit: I would contact Fanatec here for availability in the US, I think it should be available as you can buy the RSWS.
I don't remember that F355 machine, and the one I definitely remember seeing was a three screen deal. I actually seem to recall that it was almost fully enclosed with no light at eye-level getting in. Maybe it was another Naomi three screen game that was converted or something.
Edit: Actually, I think it is the same one, you just can't see the top of it in that photo.
Edit #2: Pic is quite big and unsightly, here's a link.
Edit: Actually, I think it is the same one, you just can't see the top of it in that photo.
Edit #2: Pic is quite big and unsightly, here's a link.
drugstore_cowboy
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There looks to be no mounting clamp for the CSR Elite and no holes for the chopsticks.
I can drill holes out for the wheel, but how the hell do you mount the shifter to anything?
I can drill holes out for the wheel, but how the hell do you mount the shifter to anything?
Ah, cool. I don't remember seeing a printer for it (not to say there wasn't one) but I do remember being blown away by it. Sega sure could knock up a fine arcade machine back in the day.amar212 said:
No more F355 talk for me, I think. I'm just going to sign off with this
PS. Hanging for info on Fanatec here in Australia. I know they're coming but I need to know just how deep my wallet should be.
flyinpiranha
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Betty Swallox said:
Cool, thanks. Shot an email off to them. I did end up finding them after looking on google and going to a EUR link from there. Weird it's not on the US shop.
If that would make the shifter more stable I'm all for it, as of now I leave it off and either use automatic or paddles because I hated how much it wobbled. That thing looks a lot more stable for sure.
Betty Swallox
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drugstore_cowboy said:
From the look of the wheels there will be adapters (shifter, handbrake etc) that will attach utilising the bolts on the faceplate of the chassis.
drugstore_cowboy
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Betty Swallox said:
excellent, thanks for that.
soundscream
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Almost time for the.....
Joy (o)
Confusion (~)
Rage (¥)
Which one will it be?
Joy (o)
Confusion (~)
Rage (¥)
Which one will it be?
drugstore_cowboy
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Is the CSR out already?
Can't see it in the UK store anywhere.
Can't see it in the UK store anywhere.
Betty Swallox
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amar212 said:
Not all the bolts are for tensioning the belts, plus there are unused holes on the faceplate.
Ravenn17 said:Teaser of CSR line posted on Fanatec's front page.
So this CSR shifter, is that aluminium? Looked like some kind of metal in all the videos, and from that Inside Sim Racing interview looks like that shifter and the Clubsport Shifter are two different products with the clubsport one sporting a larger base and entirely made out of some kind of alloy.