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why hasn't jesus freed her yet?

 

[rjinaz]

why hasn't jesus freed her yet?

Don't you know? The good lord only gives us what we can handle. She obviously can handle her time in jail.

Closing schools for the day seems a bit crazy but maybe there will be a big turnout, simply because it's not everyday a presidential candidate visits a place that isn't a large city.

 

[Slayven]

CNN is reporting that 5 local schools will close so as not to cause traffic problems for Mike Huckabee's visit to Davis.

Fucking hell.



http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage-kentucky/index.html

Shit they got a 4 day weekend

 

[RPGCrazied]

What are the chances she gets out, goes back to work, and continues to deny licenses? I really hope the judge stands firm with his ruling.

 

[CharlieDigital]

CNN is reporting that 5 local schools will close so as not to cause traffic problems for Mike Huckabee's visit to Davis.

Fucking hell.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage-kentucky/index.html

Republicans: giving the finger to the middle and lower class at every turn.

 

[Dai101]

Republicans: giving the finger to the middle and lower class at every turn.

And they still vote for them, because reasons.

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

What are the chances she gets out, goes back to work, and continues to deny licenses?

None.

 

[CornBurrito]

http://qntm.org/gay

You might find this read amusing and interesting.

Oh this was a fun read. Thanks.

 

[Armaros]

What are the chances she gets out, goes back to work, and continues to deny licenses? I really hope the judge stands firm with his ruling.

She is not getting out of jail until the contempt of court charge is removed and only the Judge can do that.

And the judge will only do that when she agrees to do her job in full, if she doesn't, it's back to jail for contempt. Basiclly unless her lawyers can change the laws so public servants don't have to obey rulings set by the Supreme and other Courts, she has nothing.

Her appeals have been denied all the way to the top.

 

[CharlieDigital]

She is not getting out of jail until the contempt of court charge is removed and only the udge can do that.

And the judge will only do that when she agrees to do her job in full, if she doesn't, it's back to jail for contempt. Basiclly unless her lawyers can change the laws so public servants don't have to obey rulings set by the Supreme and other Courts, she has nothing.

Her appeals have been denied all the way to the top.

The other option is that they change the local laws to remove that power from her position.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

The other option is that they change the local laws to remove that power from her position.

Which in itself would take a very very long time.

 

[GaimeGuy]

The other option is that they change the local laws to remove that power from her position.

Her power is to validate paperwork and provide a signature on behalf of the government. The government is a non personal, non physical entity. It can't look over paperwork or sign documents on its own. It needs actors to do that.


That's her position. That's her role. Her signature is not her endorsement, but the state's.

She's an idiot

Edit: and the signature is preprinted so she isn't even personally signing off on the documents. The judge even offered to allow her deputies to issue the certificates. She refused

 

[Macho Madness]

She's being released.

But:

Judge says Kim Davis will be released but may not interfere with deputy clerks issuing marriage licenses

 

[Veritigo_X]

She's being released.

But:

That Huckabee effect.

Did she agree to let the deputies issue the marriage licenses?

 

[Armaros]

She's being released.

But:

Basically she has to let her office validate the licenses aka do her job. Which is what she was refusing to do earlier.

 

[Macho Madness]

That Huckabee effect.

Did she agree to let the deputies issue the marriage licenses?

I assume that's why she's being released.

 

[Lemonz]

I assume that's why she's being released.

Her lawyers are insinuating that she might try to stop the licenses from being issued when she goes back to work.

 

[NastyBook]

LMFAO @ the FAQ. It was sorely needed.

 

[Armoured Priest]

What are the chances (and ability) of Davis firing her clerks so that they can't issue licenses?

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Her lawyers are insinuating that she might try to stop the licenses from being issued when she goes back to work.

If she does, then she'd go right back to jail.

Let's see how long she lasts on the outside.

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

She'll be going back.

 

[Armaros]

Her lawyers are insinuating that she might try to stop the licenses from being issued when she goes back to work.

She will be instant in jail for contempt again.

 

[AndyD]

Basically she has to let her office validate the licenses aka do her job. Which is what she was refusing to do earlier.

Pretty much. This is the option she was offered before she went in, and refused it, was jailed, then it was imposed without her. Now she is being released as long as she does not interfere with it.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

What are the chances (and ability) of Davis firing her clerks so that they can't issue licenses?

Very unlikely.

 

[Ecotic]

Bad decision by the judge, she hasn't changed. I guess he's hoping all the county's gay couples have already gotten their licenses.

 

[Shard]

If she does that then she goes right back to jail.

 

[Arkeband]

At first I was annoyed that she was being released, but at some point it's pointless since she's obviously so crazy that she sees her time in jail as obeying her God who is so much more powerful and important than our judicial system, so this could go on indefinitely. It also deflates Huckabee's attempt at cashing in on it, if only by a little bit.

 

[PAULINK]

get ready for round 2

 

[Stumpokapow]

Bad decision by the judge, she hasn't changed. I guess he's hoping all the county's gay couples have already gotten their licenses.

Contempt is a very weird thing.

- It's the only sentence where the offender can instantly get themselves released.

- They are held forever until they do what the court is forcing them to do, because the only reason they are being punished is to force compliance with the order.

- If they are never going to do what the court is forcing them to do, they are released instantly, because the punishment isn't working. (For example: court order for a journalist to divulge his/her source, makes it clear they will never divulge his/her source)

- If them being in jail makes it possible to implement the court order without them, they will be released, even if they could have avoided jail just by letting the thing happen before they went to jail

 

[Fenderputty]

That was the shortest jail sentence for a religious martyr ever. She could have probably held off on taking a public shit and just waited to go home.

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

She should have been ordered to comply not to sit on the sidelines.

She is now free to discriminate and all her bible thumping ilk who are protesting outside the court will think they have won.

 

[blackjaw]

Let's see what kind of stupid she can do now to get back in jail....burning licenses or shredding them?

 

[Paskil]

Dang, Ted Cruz. Looks like you should have hurried up and visited while she was still in the clink. How you going to cozy up to those far right social conservatives now? Huckster just put you on notice.

 

[rjinaz]

She should have been ordered to comply not to sit on the sidelines.

She is now free to discriminate and all her bible thumping ilk who are protesting outside the court will think they have won.

She's stuck being a close-minded bigot likely the rest of her days and gay couples now get to marry. They can think they won or that it was the lord working in mysterious ways. We know better.

 

[Lemonz]

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/09/08/kim-davis-released-jail/71881098/

U.S. District Judge David Bunning Monday ordered the Rowan County clerk freed from jail on contempt, saying he was satisfied her deputies have complied with his order to issue marriage licenses to same-sex and straight couples.

He had jailed her Thursday for refusing to comply.

In a two-page order, he ordered the U.S. Marshal Service to her release on the condition that she shall not “interfere in any way, directly or indirectly, with the efforts of her deputy clerks to issue marriage licenses to all legally eligible couples.:

If she does, Bunning said, “appropriate sanctions” will be considered.

He ordered court-appointed lawyers for the deputies to report every 14 days on their compliance.

.

 

[ido]

I'm glad licenses will now be issued, but it's still quite frustrating.

Her punishment now will be to collect $80K a year and refuse to do her job.

 

[Damaniel]

I guarantee she didn't learn her lesson, and I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up in jail for contempt again.

 

[E the Shaggy]

What does her job entail besides issuing marriage licenses?

 

[Paskil]

I'm glad licenses will now be issued, but it's still quite frustrating.

Her punishment now will be to collect $80K a year and refuse to do her job.

This might not be technically true, though. If the deputy clerks already stamp her name, then she is delegating, just like she already probably does with licenses.

 

[gcubed]

i approve.

I think its glorious that licenses are still going out with her name on it, she must have a tinge of pain when she thinks how hot the flames are going to be in hell since she is marrying gays.

 

[lobdale]

She took a stand for 3 days then pussed out. Some martyr! Everyone better get them GoFundMe dollars back. I don't want no gay marrier in MY heaven!

Spoiler

lol

 

[BertramCooper]

Here's a stream of the rally nonsense:

http://www.courier-journal.com/videos/news/local/2015/09/08/18425193/

Someone's holding up a sign that says, "AIDS: Judgment or cure?"

 

[ivysaur12]

Here's a stream of the rally nonsense:

http://www.courier-journal.com/videos/news/local/2015/09/08/18425193/

Someone's holding up a sign that says, "AIDS: Judgment or cure?"

Oh.

 

[massoluk]

Thank you Mike Huckabee for freeing Kim Davis.

 

[ido]

This might not be technically true, though. If the deputy clerks already stamp her name, then she is delegating, just like she already probably does with licenses.

It's a strange precedent, for sure.

I didn't even think that they would be stamping her name on the licenses, so that makes more sense.

We'll see what happens!

 

[BertramCooper]

Hope everyone enjoys the shitty Christian pop music that's accompanying the stream.

 

[Cyan]

She should have been ordered to comply not to sit on the sidelines.

She is now free to discriminate and all her bible thumping ilk who are protesting outside the court will think they have won.

She wasn't jailed for bigotry, she was jailed for refusing to comply with a court order. As long as she complies with the law and allows gay couples to get marriage licenses, who cares how much of a jerk she is?

I mean sure, it would be nice if people weren't jerks, but throwing jerks in jail isn't really a realistic option.

 

[BertramCooper]

 

[phisheep]

What does her job entail besides issuing marriage licenses?

Well, one of the things it entails is certifying the marriage after it has been officiated. And since that is not expressly referenced in the court order, there is room for some playtime here yet.

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

Here's a stream of the rally nonsense:

http://www.courier-journal.com/videos/news/local/2015/09/08/18425193/

Someone's holding up a sign that says, "AIDS: Judgment or cure?"

Scanned through the crowd.

Yup, it's old and white.