Can't speak for everyone else, but I don't really mean it when I express condemnation for people's favorite stuff, nothing all that wrong with a bit of ribbing.
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GAF-Hop |OT14| The 6 God is Five Writers, And One False Idol
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Can't speak for everyone else, but I don't really mean it when I express condemnation for people's favorite stuff, nothing all that wrong with a bit of ribbing.
Aight, now you done it; I don't believe you
Exactly. I was hesitating for a moment, though, when it came to Be. I think you could safely call it an objective classic, no? The production is pure gold. Probably also Kanye's best solo production, meaning raw beats mostly made by himself (I assume at least) and not as a "conductor" in a collab with dozens of others like his later work.
What better album was their from a known rapper between '06 and '12?
EDIT: You know what, I'm going to listen to Finding Forever, which I slept on, to see how good Kanye's production is (though from what I remember it didn't necessarily achieve what Ye was aiming for, namely imitating Dilla with regards to the chopping-techniques).
ROFL
man FF was fire (im being serious nibel)
Wait For Me
Get It (DT) (award for best unintentionally homosexual lyrics)
Memories II
High
Live This Life
So Much More
What Goes Around
Celebrity
100 Keys
(and it had pretty good radio singles for what it was, good dance music. Dance (A$$), Marvin & Chardonnay, and I Do It)
and LOL at some of yall LEGITIMATELY bothered by people having different taste in music of all things
Finally Famous is definitely a classic. One of the most well put together pop rap albums I can think of.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Please, we can go through some post histories. Y'all fucking loved Finally Famous at the time. I think siddx called it his AOTY.
my man illadelph!
yeah i might feel slightly different bro, I think FF (album) was the best in terms of body of work and lyrics and vibe, Dark Sky Paradise I think he's not as good at rapping anymore but his beat selection was whoaaaaaaaa. Hall of Fame was pretty bad but with a few tracks i really like.
Huh, what's the issu? That term or the fact that I'd consider Be a classic?
wait WTF "Be" isn't considered a classic? to me its literally the best body of work so far to embody what hip hop is and JUST my style of beats ughh
alright yall are crazy add Be to my personal classics I guess but im pretty sure yall are lunchin if you dont agree
I don't think I've ever agreed point for point with a rankings list, but thereitiiiiia (RHQ voice)
alright yall are crazy add Be to my personal classics I guess but im pretty sure yall are lunchin if you dont agree
I don't think I've ever agreed point for point with a rankings list, but thereitiiiiia (RHQ voice)
Net_Wrecker
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The lines get blurry on forums, but I don't think anyone's serious. At least I hope not. Everyone puts a few mediocre or trash albums on a pedestal. Gives you character.
Honestly, I'd be more wary of a person if they didn't like something that was widely panned or shrugged off.
what are some examples? lets say 2010 and later just to keep it short
I liked Be, but not sure I'd call it a classic. Kanye definitely came with some nice beats though.
Honestly.
Courage, I swear I'd buy you a ticket to Germany so you can come and say to my face that Be isn't at least a semi-objective classic.
Net_Wrecker
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I don't wanna get into this, but there's no such thing as an 'objective classic.'
Obviously there is no such thing as objective greatness, BUT you all know what one means when they say, f.e., that Illmatic is a classic.
Net_Wrecker
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People were tripping over themselves to heap praise on BE when it came out. It's one of the few releases in the last decade you could argue was a real classic.
Plus contender for GOAT intro. Right after Twitter Fingers anyway.
Plus contender for GOAT intro. Right after Twitter Fingers anyway.
Offering an international fade over the 3rd best Common album.
Top 5 Kanye productions too.
Glass Rebel
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Be ain't even a top 3 Common album but Ye stans will try to convince you otherwise
yoo those edits are getting out of hand
Offering an international fade over the 3rd best Common album.
gafhop is a shitshow today
yoo those edits are getting out of hand
Thank you.
While we're at it, what comparable "real" classics where there between Be in '06 and (MBDTF in '11)/GKMC in '12? I can't remember anything, honestly.
Be ain't even a top 3 Common album but Ye stans will try to convince you otherwise
Okay, now I'm curious.
Offering an international fade over the 3rd best Common album.
gafhop is a shitshow today
Is the fuckery any less on the bore?
Below The Heavens imo
edit: also Take Care imo. That will set some people off in here but meh
IrishNinja
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ya'll really outchea hyping stripper advice and makommen tweets
i also really don't get how some of ya'll were just acknowledging how little any of drakes fanbase would care about ghostwriting but act like it's this huge nuke all the same
choosing safer/lower hanging fruit doesnt make you a braver hunter though, just smarter
fam i know you didn't dig it, but it had some legit shots for a drake diss in 2015, and how exactly did it add credence to the ghostwriting bits? by not addressing them?
seriously, the pity-party for drizzy was interesting
yup. was surprised how much i enjoyed it without him too, but the absence was felt
courage dont let them peterboi you in your own thread
that was the post that did it? did you miss all the prior recklessness
there's an entire spectrum people
why ya'll only wanna use the two ends
we've got OTXV's title here
but they're bad on purpose fam, you just don't get it #LEVELS #Suda51
yo fuck that, look at all these gafhoppers laid back
nah, Be can be a classic, so nuts to that
Resurrection
Like Water for Chocolate
what else you got above it? One Day It'll All Make Sense? cmon now
i also really don't get how some of ya'll were just acknowledging how little any of drakes fanbase would care about ghostwriting but act like it's this huge nuke all the same
choosing safer/lower hanging fruit doesnt make you a braver hunter though, just smarter
fam i know you didn't dig it, but it had some legit shots for a drake diss in 2015, and how exactly did it add credence to the ghostwriting bits? by not addressing them?
seriously, the pity-party for drizzy was interesting
yup. was surprised how much i enjoyed it without him too, but the absence was felt
courage dont let them peterboi you in your own thread
that was the post that did it? did you miss all the prior recklessness
there's an entire spectrum people
why ya'll only wanna use the two ends
we've got OTXV's title here
but they're bad on purpose fam, you just don't get it #LEVELS #Suda51
yo fuck that, look at all these gafhoppers laid back
nah, Be can be a classic, so nuts to that
Resurrection
Like Water for Chocolate
what else you got above it? One Day It'll All Make Sense? cmon now
ViewtifulJC
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Like Water For Chocolate > Resurrection > Be >> Finding Forever > The Dreamer, The Believer > One Day It'll All Make Sense > Can I Borrow a Dollar? >> Electric Circus > Universal Mind Control
aint even heard his 2014 album lmao
aint even heard his 2014 album lmao
Eeeeeeh. Hmmmm. I dunno. Real classic? Nah. And I was such huge Weezy stan around that time that my GF was jealous, not joking. Walls full of posters. Dressed like him. Knew every single verse inside out. Hilarious looking back.
Net_Wrecker
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Really though, without combing through my hard drive some that come to mind are
- Riff Raff's music (some of it, anyway, can't defend all of this)
- Yung Lean's stuff
- Yelawolf's Trunk Muzik Returns (which I think is a legitimately great tape)
- The Game's Jesus Piece was a dope album that people just pushed past (especially with all those bonus tracks attached)
- Big Boi's Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors got a middling reception, I thought it was good
except that you putting Can I Borrow A Dollar lower than The Dreamer the Believer and Finding forever rustled tf out of my jimmmies stop it
IrishNinja
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mostly agreed, FF & Dreamer/Believer seem high, honestly
and Electric Circus over UMC? i gotta be the only dude on here that thought the latter wasn't complete shit then, damn
Glass Rebel
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Electric Circus is good brehs. And better than Be.
not by much but still
Man, I loved Below The Heavens. Exile, whew.
Net_Wrecker
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Wasn't even bad tbh. Not top tier Common, but not trash either.
IrishNinja
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i should maybe revisit Electric Circus but see Esh's post on progressive =/= good
hold on, im searching coli for that next level FOH gif to better encapsulate my feelings
kinda forgettable though, as we're proving right now
also see: whatever the roots did last
hold on, im searching coli for that next level FOH gif to better encapsulate my feelings
kinda forgettable though, as we're proving right now
also see: whatever the roots did last
ViewtifulJC
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Mid-tier Common albums kinda blur together in my head, I aint heard them in a minute. Main thing there are three great albums, 2 awful ones, and some decent-to-solid ones in between.
Seriously one of my favourite producers. The number of great beats under his belt is crazy.
Blu's also one of my favourite rappers, but he hasn't really lived up to his potential after Below the Heavens.
Psychological Intellect
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Yeezuz>other kanye
IrishNinja
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man, i still gotta give her favorite colour or whatever a proper spin...that one wasn't recorded in a train station bathroom as i recall
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