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[deadhorse32]

Move to Belgium

- Gay marriage check
- Abortion check
- Euthanasia check
- Prostitution check
- Tolerated weed check

 

[maharg]

As for actually moving to Canada, my understanding is that at the moment it's pretty difficult, even if you're in a trade we want. Unless it's a huge one like doctors and such, where we've had years of so called 'brain drain'.

Gay marriage will probably be legal across the country within a few years, though. Not even Alberta can stop this one short of Notwithstanding, and King Ralph has yet to actually use it when he's threatened to.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Move to Belgium

- Gay marriage check
- Abortion check
- Euthanasia check
- Prostitution check
- Tolerated weed check

Probably that last "check" that keeps Belgians from getting too worked up over the other four.

 

[DJ Sl4m]

i dont think there is any need for statewide IQ tests to be done. they probably tested large average samples, which is possible.
and i'd think the information would be readily available on the net from a number of different sources.
still who knows, it may be valid or not.

You know what, I'm not going to make excuses or try to defend the mass population in this state, much less the 'dirty south'.

In all actuallity I wouldn't doubt if the scores for this state were true.
There are simply sooo many non-educated and people who simply drop out of school in this state it's crazy.

The normal everyday educated, or at least partially educated, working population here in Baton Rouge is probably (wild guess) 20% of the actual population.

There are so many minorities who simply have never attended school or drop out, to go along with the huge ignorant redneck population which have achieved similar school educating that make up the majority of Baton Rouge.

There is bigotry everywhere down here with everyone blaming each other for thier problems. Sometimes it seems I can never get away from it, as I hear it everywhere.

Bad thing is I work in a nasty sick twisted bigoted redneck parish at the moment that prides itself on old rebel flags and emblems of it to stick on thier vehichles.
If I brought a cam to work, I could make a redneck photoalbum within a week that would make www.mytrailerpark.com look civilized.

It's easy to see why people move from this shithole, but unless my Fiance's parents want to move out of state, I can't see my girl being willing to leave........

 

[ErasureAcer]

I would have made that prediction without Titor. NORTH KOREA HAS NUKES PEOPLE. And Bush is too fucking dumb to talk to them. He is a weak leader and when that is finally exposed his empirical powers will be challenged.

 

[ErasureAcer]

Move to Belgium

Where do I sign for citizenship?

 

[Mason]

Could everyone please chill out about Titor? I posted it for amusement and because I know some people hadn't actually read the specifics of what he said about the "civil war."

 

[xsarien]

If I had one wish, just one wish, it would be to abolish all organized religion. World peace would inevitably follow.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

If I had one wish, just one wish, it would be to abolish all organized religion. World peace would inevitably follow.

:lol :lol :lol

Not bloody likely.

 

[xsarien]

:lol :lol :lol

Not bloody likely.

Ah, right, a lesson on realism from the guy whose solution to a cat problem is "Where's my gun?"

 

[Ripclawe]

Time for a little political revenge, rumors are watch reaction and actions going into January on a couple of places now the election is over.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBFXMT541E.html

UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The United States demanded Wednesday that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan explain why he overruled an internal finding that tje world body's refugee chief sezually harassed a female employee. The U.N. watchdog agency had found that refugee chief Ruud Lubbers, a former Dutch prime minister, harassed the 51-year-old American woman last year. It recommended "appropriate action" be taken.

But after reviewing the evidence, Annan concluded that the allegations did not hold up and said Lubbers would not be punished.

In a statement to the U.N. administrative budget committee, Tom Repasch, a U.S. adviser to the U.N. General Assembly, asked Annan to explain the contradiction.

"On the one hand, the investigation found the allegations to be true, on the other hand the secretary-general believed the evidence did not substantiate them and closed the matter," Repasch said later. "We just need more information."

U.S. Ambassador John Danforth said the discrepancy between the report's findings and Annan's decision begged clarification.

 

[xsarien]

Time for a little political revenge, rumors are watch reaction and actions going into January on a couple of places now the election is over.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBFXMT541E.html

Because sexual harrassment is more important than lying about a war and killing soldiers needlessly.

Why are the hard-right's priorities so fucking far out of whack?

 

[Fresh Prince]

Seriously the Religion Hate/ Bush Hate/ America Hate is annoying, you sit and bitch but do nothing about it.
Begin grass roots reform etc.

Look the majority of this board are idealistic students: have you ever thought about why people vote for George?
Look as soon as these people stop thinking that 'Libruls' are Satan's army the better- all this talk makes us the ones that look crazy.

Christianity and Islam are here to stay: more than ever people feel the need to have God in thier lives maybe and as atheists we should try to understand that.

eggplant: 2008 will be the turn around year. We need more co-operation around the world, need world wide iniatives when it comes to the environment and nullify extreme Christian values on what is a private choice. Bush is not the end of the world- but he isn't making it any better either.

 

[MrAngryFace]

Sorry kids, but if the past two elections have taught me anything, my vote doesnt count and what I have to say doesnt matter.

Democratic party with its shitload of money couldn't change things, how the fuck am I going to? Become a hippie? Thanks but no thanks.

 

[videogamer]

Seriously the Religion Hate/ Bush Hate/ America Hate is annoying, you sit and bitch but do nothing about it.
Begin grass roots reform etc.

Look the majority of this board are idealistic students: have you ever thought about why people vote for George?
Look as soon as these people stop thinking that 'Libruls' are Satan's army the better- all this talk makes us the ones that look crazy.

Christianity and Islam are here to stay: more than ever people feel the need to have God in thier lives maybe and as atheists we should try to understand that.

eggplant: 2008 will be the turn around year. We need more co-operation around the world, need world wide iniatives when it comes to the environment and nullify extreme Christian values on what is a private choice. Bush is not the end of the world- but he isn't making it any better either.

I'm not optimistic that the "values" voters will easily swayed no matter how bad the situation will be. Not only that, more terrorist attacks will only help the party supposedly superior in security. BUT, I am proud that I was active this year. I voted and traveled to a swing state.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Look cultural reform happens in cycles, America is not going to be stuck with a 'zealot' forever. One extremity bears another opposite one to it. Have some hope atleast.
Prepare for teh revolution!

 

[3phemeral]

Well, concerning the IQ thing, the only data I've seen that correlates with education and the 'deep south' are the conditions that must be met to be considered part of the 'deep south'.

5 major Factors:

1) Largely Baptist Community
2) Low Education levels
3) Cotton Farmers
4) Last Frost of Winter ends Earlier than other portions of the country
5) Large Rain Fall

Which is pulled directly from:

-Rubenstein, James. The Cultural Landscape: An Introduction to Human Geography, 2002 7th edition

...and encompasses most of the southern states like Texas, Georgia, and all those other red states you’ve seen. Florida is the only southern state that doesn't meet these requirements, but if you look at age population pyramids, a majority of the citizens are senior citizens, while declining in numbers as the age from there on become gradually more diminutive.

 

[DJ Sl4m]

Cotton farming ?

Jesus christ, talk about an out of date generalization.

 

[Socreges]

Damn, I went OFF at school today. One of my PoliSci teachers gave us a window to talk about the election. Big mistake! I even kicked around those damned Michael Moore lovers.

Haha, awesome.

 

[3phemeral]

Cotton farming ?

Jesus christ, talk about an out of date generalization.

It was dated 2002, I doubt they were referring to current farming situations -- probably most notably known for once having large cotton yields or having had produced much of the cotton wealth in the past. I'll double check later after I get out of my midterm

 

[Catalyst]

When are you people going to stop crying?

 

[Dilbert]

When are you people going to stop crying?

When are you going to shut your bigoted pie hole?

I mean, just asking, and stuff.

 

[3phemeral]

Found it, there are actually 6 requirements:

I apologize for not having a color version -- I hate spending 100 bucks on textbooks that I only use for 4 chapters.

When are you people going to stop crying?

Will you stop whining about other people whining?

 

[Ill Saint]

Sorry kids, but if the past two elections have taught me anything, my vote doesnt count and what I have to say doesnt matter.

Democratic party with its shitload of money couldn't change things, how the fuck am I going to? Become a hippie? Thanks but no thanks.

Add up all the people with your defeatist mentality together and amazingly enough, you really could make a difference! How about looking at it from that angle instead of your selfish one?

And Catalyst, shut up already. Add something useful instead of simple gloating rhetoric, or are you incapable?

 

[videogamer]

Add up all the people with your defeatist mentality together and amazingly enough, they really could make a difference! WOW!

And Catalyst, shut up already. Add something useful instead of simple gloating rhetoric, or are you incapable?

When he does try to debate, he gets beaten pretty easily. This is probably the most he can do.

 

[MIMIC]

I'm over it, now. But for the next four years, I will neither claim Bush as my President, salute the flag, nor will I recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

[Catalyst]

When are you going to shut your bigoted pie hole?

I mean, just asking, and stuff.

Bigoted, eh? Never knew disagreeing with something meant bigoted, hm. That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever, ever heard :lol.

Will you stop whining about other people whining?

The truth hurts .

And Catalyst, shut up already. Add something useful instead of simple gloating rhetoric, or are you incapable?

I already have. I just think it's HILARIOUS seeing a bunch of liberal dipshits who think they're hot shit get hot-headed. I have nothing to contribute except to piss you liberals off. That is all.

 

[videogamer]

Bigoted, eh? Never knew disagree with something meant bigoted, hm. That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever, ever heard :lol.

The truth hurts .

I already have. I just think it's HILARIOUS seeing a bunch of liberal dipshits who think they're hot shit get hot-headed. I have nothing to contribute except to piss you liberals off. That is all.

Isn't that by definition, a troll?

 

[Catalyst]

Isn't that by definition, a troll?

Yes, but I've said what I was going to say. And at the same time I knew it'd piss you guys off. So no, I'm not trolling. Technically, we're all trolling because I'm sure something said in this thread has pissed someone off. But I have nothing further to contribute .

 

[3phemeral]

I already have. I just think it's HILARIOUS seeing a bunch of liberal dipshits who think they're hot shit get hot-headed. I have nothing to contribute except to piss you liberals off. That is all.

Wow, that's amazing. I'm really impressed with what you've said so far that it's mind boggling to think that everyone else is just out of the loop. You've really outdone yourself this time. Really. You have.

 

[xsarien]

Isn't that by definition, a troll?

Why I do believe it is. BAN DED !!

 

[Belfast]

Bigoted, eh? Never knew disagreeing with something meant bigoted, hm. That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever, ever heard :lol.

The truth hurts .

I already have. I just think it's HILARIOUS seeing a bunch of liberal dipshits who think they're hot shit get hot-headed. I have nothing to contribute except to piss you liberals off. That is all.

So, you're deliberately trolling? Isn't that a bannable offense?

 

[nitewulf]

When are you people going to stop crying?

heh, when is your dad gonna understand you?

 

[Ripclawe]

Ashcroft to resign in the next several days(DRUDGE)


Rumor is Rudy as a replacement.

 

[xsarien]

Ashcroft to resign in the next several days(DRUDGE)


Rumor is Rudy as a replacement.

A step up, but that doesn't take too much. At least Rudy isn't a didactic, gun-toting prude who lost to a dead guy in a past election.

 

[Phoenix]

Pfft, you aint no Titor dawg. Russia nukes Jacksonville everyone knows that and civil war ensues because the Cubs win the world series next year

Yall both wrong. My Prediction is that IBM has been bullshitting about being able to produce chips in quantity for PS3, Xbox2 and Nintendo's Pipedream. When the consoles are supposed to ship this will be available in quantities of 1000 per state. Angry nerds and fanboys will march on Fishkill, NY and destroy the fabrication facility.

Shortly thereafter the number of people trying to post news, images, etc of the event go GAF will cause internet failures the world over. Bush being the 'internets' enlightened person that he is will accept neocon analysis that this is al qaeda launching an attack on the US and will ban use of the internet. The collapse of the pornography industry in the following months will destroy the economy leading to civil war.

I have forseen it.

 

[videogamer]

Yes, but I've said what I was going to say. And at the same time I knew it'd piss you guys off. So no, I'm not trolling. Technically, we're all trolling because I'm sure something said in this thread has pissed someone off. .

Uh, trolling is when you intentionally make other people angry. You admit that the only think that you can do is to troll.

But I have nothing further to contribute

It's not like you ever had anything to contribute.

 

[Ripclawe]

KERRY LOSES OHIO BECAUSE OF RAIN! wimpy young people!

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/10091661.htm?1c

No-shows among young voters may have hurt Kerry

JOHN McCARTHY

Associated Press

The Democrats should not have wasted its time lobbying college students but, instead, reached out to the poor, said Hakimah Jabbar, 22, a senior at the University of Cincinnati.

"The college students had already made up their minds," said Jabbar, who voted for Kerry. "If they're going to vote, they're going to vote. I think they targeted the wrong people."

Others may have simply seen the long lines at some polling places and walked away, especially in the sour weather that pounded Ohio all day, said John Green, a political science professor at the University of Akron.

While standing up for his own students, Green said the average college student wouldn't feel too guilty if he or she didn't vote.

"It's one thing to stand in line. It's another thing to stand in line in the rain," Green said. "Students at the University of Akron include a lot of marginal voters who would be discouraged."

 

[Mumbles]

Ah, right, a lesson on realism from the guy whose solution to a cat problem is "Where's my gun?"

You know, I'm about as much of an atheist at you'll find. I strongly believe that religion gets dragged along kicking and screaming with society. And frankly, I don't think theists even have a coherent idea of what they're talking about when they use the word "God" - because if they do, they've certainly never managed to communicate it to me. As far as I can tell, it's a magic word that somehow makes them feel better about themselves.

But without religion, people would find plenty of other issues to fight over, and plenty of other ways to rationalize their hatred of various minority groups(And yes, when you're willing to stand in line for the chance to deprive a group that has never done anything to harm you of benefits that you enjoy, that's hatred.). There's still the need to feel superior, many resources are still limited, people still have different ideas over what to do with their stuff, or if they're even allowed to "own" stuff.

Christianity and Islam are here to stay: more than ever people feel the need to have God in thier lives maybe and as atheists we should try to understand that.

Sorry, I've been trying for two decades now, and I still don't have the slightest clue as to how they think. If they want to believe in whatever the hell a god is then that's fine, so long as they leave me out of their weird rituals.

 

[firex]

Clinton was impeached because he lied under a sworn oath before God and country. He looked the American people right in the eye (via videotape), and told a bold-faced lie before a jury of his peers after having sworn an oath to uphold and tell the truth. You may not see that as a big deal, but when the President of the United States is willing to put his entire presidency and legacy at jeopardy, to lie about something as small and inconsequential as having sexual relations with an intern... what else is he willing to lie about?

Now, that said, the whole thing reeked of partisanship and hypocrisy. Not the Republican leadership's finest hour.

Meanwhile our president lied to the entire nation about Iraq, making several specious claims that have all been invalidated, and when asked if he feels he's made any mistakes as president, he had the arrogance to say no.

 

[KingV]

KERRY LOSES OHIO BECAUSE OF RAIN! wimpy young people!

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/10091661.htm?1c

No-shows among young voters may have hurt Kerry

JOHN McCARTHY

Associated Press

I could have told you this shit would happen months ago. When has the youth vote ever turned out in force? College, fresh out of high school kids just don't care enough to vote. I'm not far removed from it, I remember how it was. I bet there are a number of people on this site that take part in political threads that still were too lazy to vote. They might not admit it, but I know they've got to be out there.

 

[MetatronM]

Ashcroft to resign in the next several days(DRUDGE)


Rumor is Rudy as a replacement.

That is a little bit of an improvement. At the same time, we are talking about a guy who went on a tirade and tried to shut down a gallery because he found the art inside to be offensive.

Still, better than a man who can't win an election over a cadaver.

 

[KingV]

Meanwhile our president lied to the entire nation about Iraq, making several specious claims that have all been invalidated, and when asked if he feels he's made any mistakes as president, he had the arrogance to say no.

You forgot, and still beat John Kerry resoundingly.

 

[videogamer]

You forgot, and still beat John Kerry resoundingly.

obviously the people voting him in were too worried about people like me corrupting their kids

 

[Dilbert]

You forgot, and still beat John Kerry resoundingly.

And what does that have to do with the fact that he can't admit to a mistake? Not a goddamn thing.

 

[firex]

You forgot, and still beat John Kerry resoundingly.

I didn't forget that; you're just bringing it up because you want to brag that your candidate of choice won. I'm just saying that if all the dumbfucks are going to want to impeach Clinton for lying under oath about getting head from a fat chick, we ought to be allowed to kick Dubya's administration out of office for killing 1000+ american soldiers for a bunch of lies. I also find it sad that Bush's victory is more important to you than the fact that he's killed over 1000 americans for nothing but a series of lies, and you're in the military.

 

[xsarien]

You forgot, and still beat John Kerry resoundingly.

No, Clinton beat Dole resoundingly. Bush managed to get the popular vote this time, but he didn't get it by any margin that he should consider it a mandate.

 

[MetatronM]

You forgot, and still beat John Kerry resoundingly.

Which just goes to prove, ideology > facts.

 

[KingV]

I didn't forget that; you're just bringing it up because you want to brag that your candidate of choice won. I'm just saying that if all the dumbfucks are going to want to impeach Clinton for lying under oath about getting head from a fat chick, we ought to be allowed to kick Dubya's administration out of office for killing 1000+ american soldiers for a bunch of lies. I also find it sad that Bush's victory is more important to you than the fact that he's killed over 1000 americans for nothing but a series of lies, and you're in the military.

Bush is much more popular with the military than the public in general. I am most certainly not in the minority for preferring Bush. In fact, I would say I am probably more liberal than the average Naval officer, and prefer Bush less than most of my peers. I don't in all honesty prefer Bush that much over Kerry, apart from I never trusted Kerry to follow through with the Iraq War, which in essence has made me a one issue voter this election. On many other topics I was either indifferent or preferred Kerry's position. I was also driven away from Kerry because I have a strong strong distaste of many Democratic pundits, particularly Michael Moore, who constantly misrepresents the military. I'm not a huge Bush fan, but I will be enjoying seeing Michael Moore, and a few other pundits whine miserably.... particularly Michael Moore, over the next couple of months.

Also, this Bush lied people died crap is definitely stretching the truth to the point of bullshit. Yes, the intelligence was clearly flawed, but the evidence that Bush truly made up something and then lied just does not exist. Crap like this lost the election for the democrats, it's what separates the liberal left from the rest of America and drives moderates towards the Republican party. I speak from experience.

 

[Incognito]

I could have told you this shit would happen months ago. When has the youth vote ever turned out in force? College, fresh out of high school kids just don't care enough to vote. I'm not far removed from it, I remember how it was. I bet there are a number of people on this site that take part in political threads that still were too lazy to vote. They might not admit it, but I know they've got to be out there.

Actually, the youth vote turnout was the highest ever. What you hear on the news about low youth turnout is a proportional rate compared to the rest of the voting population.